# Suggestions for sexual IOI mixes

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 1, 2013, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021 "2013-02-01T08:06:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/1 "2013-02-01T08:06:39Z")

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Yo

also here I wish to request your help for mixes to score me sexual IOI on the streets, trams, coffee shops, you get the drift.  
I’m **not** looking specifically for the blatant ‘rub ass on my di\*\*’.  
I’m looking for a sexual spark in her eyes when our eyes meet; or a display of skin whenever I look at her. I’m looking for what some people get almost every day. I wish to find out what I am doing wrong.  
My target age range: 18-23.

Short about me: I used to be too intimidating, but now it’s all good. I’m extroverted, social, I don’t hesitate to compliment strangers if they deserve it. I’m average looking - some describe me as 5 to 6 of 10.  
I’m very confident. I express that with body language.  
I do work out about one to two times per week. No heavy workouts, just some jogging and training for my arms.  
I go out a lot, but not to party. I am not a party guy. Usually meeting with someone for a pizza or going to the park, or just to the mall.

Here’s what I tried without satisfying sexual IOI, taken from my journal; all the mixes below have been tested by me for at least one week to confirm the results repeat:

**Ammo x1: nothing to report about really  
Ammo x2: very confident feeling! Not caring about possibly not looking best at that time…  
Ammo x1 Mx297 x1 : a few social hits  
Ammo x2 Mx297 x1 : a few social hits  
 Ammo x1 Instant Openness x3: I felt the [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 's effect literally! When I met girls on the street they were chatty as fudge. No [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) though before approach.  
Ammo x2 Instant Openness x3: same as above  
Ammo x2 [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) x1: only self effects. No [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) , but I got a “I got dis” feeling for half of the day after application.Very tired out after the effect.  
Summer Ammo x 2 Instant Shine x 2: Ah that was a wonderful relaxed day. It was stressful Winter but indeed feeling like Summer, kinda. I was enjoying myself and forgot about my worries. Less than a hand full of [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) over 3 weeks.  
Summer Ammo x 2 Instant Shine x 1:** same as above  
**Summer Ammo x 1 Instant Gentleman x 1** : nice confidence boast! I got some social hits around mates. Often just wanting to be around me. 🙂  
**IG x 1** : None  
**IG x 2** : self effects, respect social hits.  
**IG x 3** : good, but worse than IG x 2.  
**Mx297 x1 :** subtle social hits  
**Mx297 x2 :** social hits  
**Mx297 x3 :** headache, less hits than with Mx297 x2  
No obvious sexual hits, hardly any [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) from the mixes above. Others seem to have it so easy .\_.

**Yet to test:**

P75 (2.5) P83 (40) (thanks monesmadedoit)  
P74 (~25) P75 (2.5)  
P75 (2.5) Summer Ammo (thanks dsouza)  
0,5 x Ammo + 2.5 mcg P75 + 2 x IS + 1x IO (thanks komax1976)  
3x Ammo + 3x IO + 3x IShine + 30 mcg P74 + 25 mcg P83 (+1x Mx297) (thanks Steve)  
1x Ammo + 3x IO + 3x IShine + 30 mcg P74 + 25 mcg P83 (+1x Mx297) (thanks Steve)  
P74 (25) + P83 (37.5 - 66) + 2x IShine + Summer Ammo ( +perhaps Tuth)(Thanks Roy\_Dillon [HITS @ KFC & CLIENT too - #6 by Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-kfc-client-too/58157/6))

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An additional thing: when I meet a woman on the streets it usually only takes a minute or two before I see the first IOI, often multiple. **I get them regardless of what mones I wear. I get the same amount without wearing any.**  
I am looking for IOI WITHOUT talking to them. Just by a look. All my testing above has been done with the aim to get IOI to show me the mones are working. I will continue to test.

Now please make suggestions. I count on you! 🙂  
Or if you’ve got explanations why others get so easily what I’m struggling with…comments, suggestions, everything that may help.

Thank you 🙂

PS: Of course I do occasionally get an IOI, every few weeks. Everyone does. I wish to get repeatable results, at least once per week.

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/2 "2013-02-01T11:02:13Z")

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> [@Mysterion](#):
>
> Yo
> 
> also here I wish to request your help for mixes to score me sexual IOI on the streets, trams, coffee shops, you get the drift.  
> I’m **not** looking specifically for the blatant ‘rub ass on my di\*\*’.  
> I’m looking for a sexual spark in her eyes when our eyes meet; or a display of skin whenever I look at her. I’m looking for what some people get almost every day. I wish to find out what I am doing wrong.  
> My target age range: 18-23.
> 
> Short about me: I used to be too intimidating, but now it’s all good. I’m extroverted, social, I don’t hesitate to compliment strangers if they deserve it. I’m decently looking - some describe me as 6 to 7 of 10.  
> I’m very confident. I express that with body language.  
> I do work out about one to two times per week. No heavy workouts, just some jogging and training for my arms.  
> I go out a lot, but not to party. I am not a party guy. Usually meeting with someone for a pizza or going to the park, or just to the mall.
> 
> Here’s what I tried without satisfying sexual IOI, taken from my journal; all the mixes below have been tested by me for at least one week to confirm the results repeat:
> 
> **Ammo x1: nothing to report about really  
> Ammo x2: very confident feeling! Not caring about possibly not looking best at that time…  
> Ammo x1 Mx297 x1 : a few social hits  
> Ammo x2 Mx297 x1 : a few social hits  
> Ammo x1 Instant Openness x3: I felt the [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 's effect literally! When I met girls on the street they were chatty as fudge. No [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) though before approach.  
> Ammo x2 Instant Openness x3: same as above  
> Ammo x2 Instant Gentleman x1: only self effects. No [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) , but I got a “I got dis” feeling for half of the day after application.Very tired out after the effect.  
> Summer Ammo x 2 Instant Shine x 2: Ah that was a wonderful relaxed day. It was stressful Winter but indeed feeling like Summer, kinda. I was enjoying myself and forgot about my worries. Less than a hand full of [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) over 3 weeks.  
> Summer Ammo x 2 Instant Shine x 1:** same as above  
> **Summer Ammo x 1 Instant Gentleman x 1** : nice confidence boast! I got some social hits around mates. Often just wanting to be around me. 🙂  
> **IG x 1** : None  
> **IG x 2** : self effects, respect social hits.  
> **IG x 3** : good, but worse than IG x 2.  
> **Mx297 x1 :** subtle social hits  
> **Mx297 x2 :** social hits  
> **Mx297 x3 :** headache, less hits than with Mx297 x2  
> No obvious sexual hits, hardly any [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) from the mixes above. Others seem to have it so easy .\_.
> 
> **Yet to test:**
> 
> All possible combinations with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/)  
> [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)
> 
> * * *
> 
> An additional thing: when I meet a woman on the streets it usually only takes a minute or two before I see the first IOI, often multiple. **I get them regardless of what mones I wear. I get the same amount without wearing any.**  
> I am looking for IOI WITHOUT talking to them. Just by a look. All my testing above has been done with the aim to get IOI to show me the mones are working. I will continue to test.
> 
> Now please make suggestions. I count on you! 🙂  
> Or if you’ve got explanations why others get so easily what I’m struggling with…comments, suggestions, everything that may help.
> 
> Thank you 🙂
> 
> PS: Of course I do occasionally get an IOI, every few weeks. Everyone does. I wish to get repeatable results, at least once per week.

3 sprays each of IH and IO with 2.5 mcg of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). Try to layer the 6 social sprays over one hour. May work better if you add the socials 2-3 hours after applying P75. 75 to the neck, socials to the wrists. You need to be in proximity of targets for about 30 minutes. Its based upon a more-or-less proven concept of CTTM2 plus P75. 40 mcg of P83 plus 2.5 mcg of P75 is also good for blatant flirting. I tend to get the same results with each time I’ve used these. The IH in the combo above will sometimes get you some bonding and depth, especially if a women admits something truly personal. Any woman who admits something not in her best interest to admit becomes (slightly) verbally naked–a more deeply personal thing (to some girls) than bare skin.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/3 "2013-02-01T11:56:31Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
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> 3 sprays each of IH and IO with 2.5 mcg of P75. Try to layer the 6 social sprays over one hour. May work better if you add the socials 2-3 hours after applying P75. 75 to the neck, socials to the wrists. You need to be in proximity of targets for about 30 minutes. Its based upon a more-or-less proven concept of CTTM2 plus P75. 40 mcg of P83 plus 2.5 mcg of P75 is also good for blatant flirting. I tend to get the same results with each time I’ve used these. The IH in the combo above will sometimes get you some bonding and depth, especially if a women admits something truly personal. Any woman who admits something not in her best interest to admit becomes (slightly) verbally naked–a more deeply personal thing (to some girls) than bare skin.

Man I had to add to this thread. Monemadedoit is giving good advice but something new to add.

You say you have summer ammo. Try summer ammo p75. Just that. Young girls 18-22 will go out of their way to welcome you if you know them.. Also lots of eye contact from strangers.

I find with summer ammo p75 I’m laid back . I can talk but listen just as much and I don’t rush out every word out of my mouth when speaking.. It makes girls chase.

If your going for young girls its good to initiate but getting them chasing is just as important. They don’t want to feel a guy coming on too strong.

I only use mones 1-2 times a week now.. I learning to rely on plain old me for success instead. Thenwhen I go out after a week of not wearing mones I have a gameplan inmind.. What to say etc.. So I just spray and forget.. before I was analyzing too much during interactions causing interactions to go bad…

Mones work best when you put them on and “forget about 'em”😃

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/4 "2013-02-01T12:37:55Z")

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Hey,

I got 5 mcg P75 as freebie (togo) here.  
To dillute it to 2.5 mcg I need to purchase a Neroli fragrance and a third bottle to mix them in, right? No idea how I take exactly half of each out, however. Advices are appreciated.

However I will try your suggestions out, at least P75 P83 and [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) P75 are on my list. Thanks so much, it’s not yet my time to get desperate 😃 I’ll try them out in a few weeks when stress is over!

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**Author:** ![komax1976](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/komax1976/32/816_2.png) [@komax1976](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/komax1976)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/5 "2013-02-01T15:29:41Z")

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0,5 spray of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and you are 2,5 mcg P75 :

Good mix for your age : 0,5 spray ammo + 2.5 mcg p75 + 2 x IS + 1x IO = winnnnnnn

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/6 "2013-02-01T15:58:56Z")

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Thank you, but how the heck can I spray exactly 1/2?  
Most of the time it’s either zero or one, if something inbetween then I don’t think it’s 1/2 D:  
Hey I am not good at careful, gentle and fine pushes/movements 😃

But thanks for the mix idea, seems to be good. Although I dont get any OD effects even at 2 x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), it sounds reasonable.

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**Author:** ![komax1976](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/komax1976/32/816_2.png) [@komax1976](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/komax1976)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/7 "2013-02-01T17:57:04Z")

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Lol , ok your sweet spot is 2X ammo , but maybe [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) make you OD , so you have to balance it with socials , that’s why I put in the formula only 0.5, 1 x maximum ammo . Or more socials :

Example:

My sweet spot for ammo alone is 3X ammo

Range ages (18-40)

1x ammo + 2.50 mcg P75 + 2 IS + 1 IO ( work fine on me, i have 36 years old) if i make **2x ammo** + 2.50 mcg P75 + 2 xIS + 1x IO === OD

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/8 "2013-02-02T12:39:04Z")

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I appreciate all advices guys. I’ll definitely give every advice a go given I got the mones for it.  
I credited you for the yet-to-test mixes!

> [@](#):
>
> 40 mcg of P83 plus 2.5 mcg of P75 is also good for blatant flirting.

Apply the P75 2 hours before the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)?

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/9 "2013-02-04T12:31:04Z")

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> [@Mysterion](#):
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> Apply the P75 2 hours before the P83?

Yes. After applying the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), it should start to soak in over a few hours. Blatant sexual references and unexpectedly lewd dirty talk will tell you that’s the sweet spot. You can go up or down 10 mcg to find it.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/10 "2013-02-07T09:08:18Z")

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Here’s what I’d do with Ammo, IO and Ishine (3 sprays of each). Add 30 mcg of P74, 25 mcg of P83 and 12.5 mcg of P91. Well rounded but sexy/sexual I could be your boyfriend vibe.

The thing is also to remember when you say you get lots of flirting I’m not really sure what you are expecting. That’s what mones do. They open a door and its usually from flirting and its your choice to elevate it to the next level. If you are getting people to flirt, you’re getting results, but you got to push forward to get them to the next level, especially during day time. Most sexual hits come at night.

By night time the woman has gone all day with flirting and mild innuendo leading to the night where you and her are like oh damn, my options are almost up for the day, I better move fast. Day time its about building those options but we rarely think about escalating because after all, we have all day.

Anyway, that’s a favorite of mine blend. Oh and P91 can be substituted with one spray of [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) as that’s what it is anyway IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/11 "2013-02-07T09:13:46Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> Here’s what I’d do with Ammo, IO and Ishine (3 sprays of each). Add 30 mcg of P74, 25 mcg of P83 and 12.5 mcg of P91. Well rounded but sexy/sexual I could be your boyfriend vibe.
> 
> The thing is also to remember when you say you get lots of flirting I’m not really sure what you are expecting. That’s what mones do. They open a door and its usually from flirting and its your choice to elevate it to the next level. If you are getting people to flirt, you’re getting results, but you got to push forward to get them to the next level, especially during day time. Most sexual hits come at night.
> 
> By night time the woman has gone all day with flirting and mild innuendo leading to the night where you and her are like oh damn, my options are almost up for the day, I better move fast. Day time its about building those options but we rarely think about escalating because after all, we have all day.
> 
> Anyway, that’s a favorite of mine blend. Oh and P91 can be substituted with one spray of MX297 as that’s what it is anyway IMHO.

Thanks a ton! I think 3 sprays Ammo are a little too much but it’s what works for you after all. I’ll try both high Ammo and low Ammo.

Secondly, I said it doesn’t make a difference in flirting. They don’t flirt with me or give me any indicators or signals before I talk to them - and if I do talk to them, I get just as much as I get completely without wearing any mones! But socially Ive seen some nice effects so I believe I will find a sexy mix as well. I’ll try yours out too - I got it all here 😃 - but right now we got snow everywhere once again so patience please.

Have a nice weekend 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/12 "2013-02-07T12:58:20Z")

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> [@Mysterion](#):
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> Thanks a ton! I think 3 sprays Ammo are a little too much but it’s what works for you after all. I’ll try both high Ammo and low Ammo.

With IO x3, 30mcg P74 and the P91, that is a lot of moderation and P91’s fey/dreamy, “follow me” quality is a very interesting moderator, so three sprays Ammo does not seem at all unreasonable there.

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/13 "2013-02-07T14:29:08Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> With IO x3, 30mcg P74 and the P91, that is a lot of moderation and P91’s fey/dreamy, “follow me” quality is a very interesting moderator, so three sprays Ammo does not seem at all unreasonable there.

Does 91 have the same follow me effect of P103? What does (as far as actually what’s in stock)?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/14 "2013-02-07T14:43:37Z")

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Nope, totally different feel. Much more dreamy/laid-back, like a soft-focus stroll in a forest, whilst P103 is a harsh, bounce, bounce, bounce in the spotlight sort of way. 🙂

[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is the one with most similar qualities to P103 that I’ve used but its not nearly as harsh or sudden - Many superb P103 hits/responses fail because the subject suddenly checks themselves and pulls-back.

Mind you, P91 might make an excellent moderator/regulator for P103 as its qualities do soften things in just the right way - I will try it as soon as I’m fit to. 🙂

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**Author:** ![sillysilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@sillysilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sillysilly)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-sexual-ioi-mixes/58021/15 "2014-07-23T09:46:20Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Nope, totally different feel. Much more dreamy/laid-back, like a soft-focus stroll in a forest, whilst P103 is a harsh, bounce, bounce, bounce in the spotlight sort of way. 🙂
> 
> P83 is the one with most similar qualities to P103 that I’ve used but its not nearly as harsh or sudden - Many superb P103 hits/responses fail because the subject suddenly checks themselves and pulls-back.
> 
> Mind you, P91 might make an excellent moderator/regulator for P103 as its qualities do soften things in just the right way - I will try it as soon as I’m fit to. 🙂

did you ever try this? infomation on p103 would be good, haven’t really tried it yet, if it pulls people in do you think it would be amplified by p102, and softened with tac.
