# Suggestions on A314 + Instant Gentleman combinations

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 16, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641 "2008-08-16T15:53:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/1 "2008-08-16T15:53:56Z")

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Hi all  
Kind of a noob here. havent really got to posting much, still experimenting with the commercial products to get a hang of things.  
Well, so I need advice on A314 + [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) combination that you guys use. The basic reason for this is that A314 makes me a bit too serious (even when buferred with shine and ammo) and Instant Gentleman makes me a it too ‘camp’ or ‘soft’ where I tend to bend over backwards and accept whatever is thrown at me.  
So, I was wondering if there was a way in which both the products could be used in combination to create a ‘fun guy who wont take crap’ signature. Any suggestions/ combinations welcome.  
I have tried a single drop of A314 + 1 spray ammo + 3 sprays shine (1X) and that doesnt seem to do much. Too much ammo and I seem to scare even my superiors at work.  
I even intentionally overdosed on 4 drops of A314 and wherever I went, people wouldnt come a mile near me (it was kinda fun).  
On the other hand, I mixed IG + ammo + shine in 4:1:1 ratios in a to-go bottle and with 2 sprays, my personal boundaries seemed to disappear and people who wouldnt normally mess with me somehow saw this as an opportunity to impose their superiority. I felt at peace with myself (too much actually).  
So basically, I believe that these two products touch two extremes of social interaction and I am looking for a balance, a middle road.

Btw I am looking for combinations that you guys use for work/light social interactions and not for clubbing etc.  
All comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/2 "2008-08-16T18:58:59Z")

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That is most bizarre. But you say you actually mixed the [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) with ammo and Instant Shine? Have you tried the IG on its own?  
I am looking forward to ODing on A314 on my next IT job, should stop the phenomenon of people hanging around me asking lots of questions when I’m trying to get the job done, and project a “leave me to it, for heaven’s sake!” vibe…  
What I have found is that IG and A314 actually have quite a lot in common, though there are some differences - I’ll have to try both out more before I can find the words to describe the differences.

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/3 "2008-08-16T19:08:36Z")

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> [@ntk23](#):
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> That is most bizarre. But you say you actually mixed the Instant Gentleman with ammo and Instant Shine? Have you tried the IG on its own?  
> I am looking forward to ODing on A314 on my next IT job, should stop the phenomenon of people hanging around me asking lots of questions when I’m trying to get the job done, and project a “leave me to it, for heaven’s sake!” vibe

[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) on its own just uplifted my mood and did not focus a lot of attention towards me. Hence i added the shine and ammo in much lesser quantities to the IG to make ‘hits’ much more noticable.  
As far as ODing on A314 is concerned, good luck on that. Depending on the kind of person you are, the effects might not be too desirable. However, doing it once is always good to gauge the effectiveness of pheromones. I would be careful about making it a daily thing as it might completely change people’s perceptions of you and make communication much more harder.

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/4 "2008-08-16T19:36:41Z")

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Might try a 1:1 A314 : [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) mix tomorrow day to try and better get a handle on how they differ. In the evening… if all goes well, I haven’t decided yet but I’ll be augmenting it with some others 🙂

I’ll report on how I found the combination of the two.

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/5 "2008-08-16T19:50:08Z")

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If you are around the same folks alot I would say use the a314 and IG on alternating weeks. Several reasons to do this. One is that it keeps people from getting used to your signal. Two is that the effects of these two products are cumulative…people “remember” them and they add up.

Bosshank keeps two great threads in his signature about A314 read them both I think they will help.

> [@A314 vs Instant Gentleman: a married man in his mid-40s compares the two](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-instant-gentleman/11070):
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> Myself: Athletic, mid-40s, Married with children This is a compilation of thoughts on the differences between A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). A lot of this is based not only on my experience but also on some PMs between myself and Renny. So if you like this post and decide to share the love – er, rep points, please do not forget to send Renny some too. For those of you who are not familiar with Renny he and I are about the same age. I mention this as a couple of the products can have effects that v…

> [@A314 and Ammo Combo Question](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-ammo-combo-question/13257):
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> I use both or variants on a near daily basis. Now there is some overlap in the individual pheromones in both products although A314 certainly has more as reported and the ratios are also certainly different. My question is this: When we wear both A314 and Ammo at the same time are we sending out the two distinct signals of Ammo and A314 … or are we just throwing out a lot of signal, but one that is neither really one or the other? If it is the latter are we just sending out an off-kilter A314 …

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/6 "2008-08-16T20:48:35Z")

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> [@ntk23](#):
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> Might try a 1:1 A314 : Instant Gentleman mix tomorrow day to try and better get a handle on how they differ. In the evening… if all goes well, I haven’t decided yet but I’ll be augmenting it with some others 🙂
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> I’ll report on how I found the combination of the two.

Please let me know how you get on. Ill post my results on Monday for 2 drops A314 + 4 sprays IG + 1 spray IS

> [@renny](#):
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> If you are around the same folks alot I would say use the A314 and Instant Gentleman on alternating weeks. Several reasons to do this. One is that it keeps people from getting used to your signal. Two is that the effects of these two products are cumulative…people “remember” them and they add up.
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> Bosshank keeps two great threads in his signature about A314 read them both I think they will help.
> 
> [A314 vs Instant Gentleman: a married man in his mid-40s compares the two](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-instant-gentleman/11070)
> 
> [A314 and Ammo Combo Question](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-and-ammo-combo-question/13257)

Thanks for your reply. I did read bosshank’s threads prior to posting. However, I have this ‘theory’ that mixing by A314 and IG it would be possible to come up with a much more wholesome mixture suitable for daily use.  
Bosshank suggests using either A314 or IG as a base and adding other buffers on top. However, I am trying to experiment with a different angle and use two base products to make a much more complete base.  
I am pretty new to this and I started this thread because I thought that this idea might not be something new and someone must have already tried it and just wanted to know what combination of the two worked for others.  
I know that idle uses both A314 and IG in many of his mixes but the number of drops/sprays that he uses would become too much for me and I probably would not be able to handle the effects (have to try that sometime though).  
As far as alternating the products are concerned, using A314 in isolation is not such a good idea for me as I naturaly come off as pretty intimidating. However, I love A314 for the confidence and respect vibe that it brings. While the respect is much more lacking with IG and makes me feel less alpha than I am comfortable with.  
Hope all this banter makes sense …

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/7 "2008-08-16T21:03:07Z")

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🙂 NP, everyone is different…what you are trying to do is what Androtics recommends on the website. Your own experience is going to be the best guide. start with 1/2 your normal dose of A314 and 1/2 your normal dose of IG and then increase one or the other until you get what you are looking for.

When you get a chance get some IH…great buffer for either of the androsterone products.

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/8 "2008-08-16T21:45:30Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> 🙂 NP, everyone is different…what you are trying to do is what Androtics recommends on the website. Your own experience is going to be the best guide. start with 1/2 your normal dose of A314 and 1/2 your normal dose of Instant Gentleman and then increase one or the other until you get what you are looking for.
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> When you get a chance get some Instant Honesty…great buffer for either of the androsterone products.

Thanks for your help. I plan to start testing this on monday at work.

As for -nol products, I seem to get extremely drowsy while using them and that ends u making me cranky during the end of the day. Spraying it on my head doesnt help as it still seems to affect me. This might be a temporary problem and my body might get adjusted to it but for the time being I prefer staying away from them as I havent felt any pronounced effects as of yet, other than people running nto me quite often, which i believe is an indicator of reduced personal boundaries. However, I am the kind of person who prefers a bit of personal space and hence my reluctance on testing these for now. Maybe ill do it in a few months time when i need a change 🙂

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/9 "2008-08-17T16:07:00Z")

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Oh hey, I wore 2 drops of A314 and two sprays of IG on a couple of jobs today (IT troubleshooting & fixing). I’d say results are… inconclusive, maybe down to the context. I’m in a position where people have to defer to my computer expertise _anyway_, so maybe that was indisguishable from the “authority effect” of the A314. Well, I didn’t get the “20 questions” treatment from hangers-on when I was working 🙂  
I’m finding that the self-effects are still there, but they actually “kick in” only when the situation demands it, basically when there’s people around. Anyway, I suspect there may be some fun to be had this evening: I’m looking at my bottles right now, sure reckon TUTH is gonna figure in there 🙂

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/10 "2008-08-17T19:15:45Z")

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oh… I think I just had my first none OD. LOL.  
(3 x TUTH)  
I fit the bill for someone who may produce a lot naturally too (there’s an old thread on here somewhere). I was getting the ghost effect at this bar. And… I can’t help but still be mad about it, even though I know the probable cause. It ain’t nice being ignored. So I came straight back home.  
I still reek of TUTH. I also sprayed some [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Shine (2 of each) but seemingly to no avail. I suppose I could have stuck around but the evening was off to a bad start.  
So I’m all dressed up, so to speak, and nowhere to go.

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/11 "2008-08-17T19:28:30Z")

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> [@ntk23](#):
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> Oh hey, I wore 2 drops of A314 and two sprays of Instant Gentleman on a couple of jobs today (IT troubleshooting & fixing). I’d say results are… inconclusive, maybe down to the context. I’m in a position where people have to defer to my computer expertise _anyway_, so maybe that was indisguishable from the “authority effect” of the A314. Well, I didn’t get the “20 questions” treatment from hangers-on when I was working 🙂  
> I’m finding that the self-effects are still there, but they actually “kick in” only when the situation demands it, basically when there’s people around. Anyway, I suspect there may be some fun to be had this evening: I’m looking at my bottles right now, sure reckon Turn Up The Heat is gonna figure in there 🙂

Well i would have expected more from that mixture. Ill be trying 1 A314 + 2 IG + 1 IS on Monday and lets see how i get on.

> [@ntk23](#):
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> oh… I think I just had my first none OD. LOL.  
> (3 x TUTH)  
> I fit the bill for someone who may produce a lot naturally too (there’s an old thread on here somewhere). I was getting the ghost effect at this bar. And… I can’t help but still be mad about it, even though I know the probable cause. It ain’t nice being ignored. So I came straight back home.  
> I still reek of TUTH. I also sprayed some Instant Openness and Instant Shine (2 of each) but seemingly to no avail. I suppose I could have stuck around but the evening was off to a bad start.  
> So I’m all dressed up, so to speak, and nowhere to go.

I know how that feels mate. I have been in the same spot before, intentionally overdosing. However I feel that -none overdose atracts older women (10+ years older, in my case). Best to just sit it out i guess 😃

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/12 "2008-08-17T19:52:03Z")

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Yeah… I’ve got away (quite nicely too) with two sprays of Turn Up The Heat recently, that third one was the final straw I think. Plenty of older women turned up actually, but by that point I was a bit pissed off, and not really up for anything other than going home again. I should swing a kettlebell around while I’ve got all this spare energy going on, do some press-ups and things 🙂

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/13 "2008-08-17T20:31:42Z")

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Usually when i wear turn up the heat i put on 2 sprays from my togo or 1 spray from my regular bottle (a togo spray is ~80% of a regular) directly to the chest. That way only people close enough to you will get a big effect. I usually wear the equivalent to 6-8 sprays of instant shine + instant openness or honesty to balence it out.

I’m 18 and white. Hope that helps keep you from OD

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/14 "2008-08-17T20:59:40Z")

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> [@iamstretchypanda](#):
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> Usually when i wear turn up the heat i put on 2 sprays from my togo or 1 spray from my regular bottle (a togo spray is ~80% of a regular) directly to the chest. That way only people close enough to you will get a big effect. I usually wear the equivalent to 6-8 sprays of instant shine + instant openness or honesty to balence it out.
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> I’m 18 and white. Hope that helps keep you from OD

Thanks Iamstretchypanda, I’ll certainly think about upping the social sprays to that extent, to offset the 'none. In fact, I’m returning to 2 sprays of the TUTH for the immediate future. I thought I might be able to get away with three, actually. I am 36 years old, you see (also white). It’s almost like I crossed a weird threshold with 3 x TUTH…

My recent 2:3:4 TUTH : IG : IO cocktail certainly worked out well for me. I suppose I can think of other social factors that contributed to the ghost effect, too; I might have fared a bit better if a few people I know reasonably well were there, to prime the social pump. Nevertheless, my sociability was rebuffed 😠

Sorry Shubhodeep, it’s your thread dude, and I’m looking forward to hearing from you on how your A314 and IG combo goes. I can say that I seem to have got used to the androstenol already: I’m not “crashing” now and not being as clumsy with committing typos, etc 🙂

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/15 "2008-08-17T21:03:49Z")

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> [@ntk23](#):
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> Yeah… I’ve got away (quite nicely too) with two sprays of Turn Up The Heat recently, that third one was the final straw I think. Plenty of older women turned up actually, but by that point I was a bit pissed off, and not really up for anything other than going home again. I should swing a kettlebell around while I’ve got all this spare energy going on, do some press-ups and things 🙂

i aso noticed that an od makes you feel quite horny and that seems pretty frustrating when the only options at that moment are so older than you. Ill be getting instant jerk with my next order whch if i am correct is about 5x the strength of TUTH. Cant wait to try it out 😃

> [@iamstretchypanda](#):
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> Usually when i wear turn up the heat i put on 2 sprays from my togo or 1 spray from my regular bottle (a togo spray is ~80% of a regular) directly to the chest. That way only people close enough to you will get a big effect. I usually wear the equivalent to 6-8 sprays of instant shine + instant openness or honesty to balence it out.
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> I’m 18 and white. Hope that helps keep you from OD

its nice to overdose once in a while though to see how powerful this stuff really is 🙂

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/16 "2008-08-17T21:56:07Z")

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Haha yeah an OD is really interesting. Being ghosted is the strangest experience but its only a positive experience if you’re ready for it!

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/17 "2008-08-18T19:01:15Z")

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So, today i went to work with 2 drops A314 + 4 sprays IG + 1 spray IS.  
As far as self effects are concerned, it gave me a very ‘james bond’ kind of feel - cocky and confident. I also noticed that it seemed to attract women older than me (i guess girls my age are only affected if there is -none involved, but mature women probably go for the social mones).  
However the overall attention that i recieved from people seemed lesser than that i usually recieve with A314 alone, as i guess it got bufferred by the IG. The respect was still intact though and I noticed avoidance was a bit more than with A314 alone.  
All in all, nothing impressive as such with respect to external effects but i would use this combo for the awsome self effects alone.  
Tommorrow I shall be going with 2 drops A314 + 2 sprays IG + 1 spray IS. Ill report if there are any distinct effects that deviate from the normal.

Btw, I also had a doctors appointment today and I had to remove my shirt so i sprayed myself with ammo. The hot doctor still managed to retain her professionalism even though she was quite touchy. I guess thats one fantasy that will probably never get fulfilled ☹

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/18 "2008-08-18T19:30:51Z")

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Good report!  
Mature women going for the andosterone signature, do you think? I sure hope so 🙂 That’ll be women closer to my age (36). I sure seem to get away with a fair bit of A314 and IG like yourself today.  
I think cutting the sprays of IG to 2 tomorrow is a logical next step on your mission, too.  
Some more guys closer to your age should really weigh in here with their experiences of A314 and IG, I think. How do the effects on other men break down as by the other men’s age? If you’ve noticed any significant patterns, that is.  
I do wish I had a hot female doctor LOL.

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/19 "2008-08-18T20:55:05Z")

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> [@ntk23](#):
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> Good report!  
> Mature women going for the andosterone signature, do you think? I sure hope so 🙂 That’ll be women closer to my age (36). I sure seem to get away with a fair bit of A314 and Instant Gentleman like yourself today.  
> I think cutting the sprays of IG to 2 tomorrow is a logical next step on your mission, too.  
> Some more guys closer to your age should really weigh in here with their experiences of A314 and IG, I think. How do the effects on other men break down as by the other men’s age? If you’ve noticed any significant patterns, that is.  
> I do wish I had a hot female doctor LOL.

I noticed that mature women seemed to be acting like young girls around me - doing stuff like walking past me frequently to get noticed, walking more seductively than they are supposed to in a work environment etc.  
I guess the james bond aura appeals to them more than young girls.  
As far as males are concerned, everyone kept holding doors open for me even though i might be miles away (more like 10+ steps). Bus drivers were unusually nice to me (now thats a change !). However the IG had powerful self effects on me and i insisted on people going first etc.(especially females). I did not find major differences in the behaviour of men from different age groups.

The best thing about having a hot doctor here is that i can abuse the nhs and have frequent appointments for even the minor of injuries (my twisted little mind contorts them as dates 😛 )

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-on-a314-instant-gentleman-combinations/17641/20 "2008-08-19T18:59:41Z")

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well today, i decided to try ammo (2) + IG (2) + IS (1). The results were very positive to say the least. and most of all, the hits were quite noticable due to the absence of A314. I seemed to be like the guy who is everyones friend. people who dont know me started talking to me, people started calling me across the street (people who i know ofcourse). i also noticed that this mix captures a very wide range of women. i can say that atleast 90% of the women who i passed or looked at had a DIHL look and i could catch women secretly trying to look at me from far away which was quite surprising. i know they were looking at me because when i looked back, they got embarassed. the women ranged in age from 18 to 40+. it seemed that i had nuked the workplace with pheros.  
also the self effects are amazing and i am quite energetic even after 9 hours of work and i didnt get much sleep last night. it gave me a cocky arrogant type feeling but in a good way.  
tommorrow i might try the same mix with a couple of sprays of spaceland to see if it can make me everyones friend. i am a bit wary of this as spaceland tends to tire me out, but we shall see.

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