# Suggestions sought and appreciated **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 6, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458 "2007-11-06T21:52:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458/1 "2007-11-06T21:52:27Z")
Hey folks, I’m still pretty new, but have had some terrific results with my first round of products from [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com), which included: Turn Up The Heat, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Ammo, and a bottle of NPA purchased elsewhere, as well as a bottle of Liquid Trust that I’d already had. You can see my posting on the results I’ve had using them here: [45 year old in Dallas Texas](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/45-year-old-in-dallas-texas/6389) Anyway, I loved the products so much and after getting the $15 GC , I just had to come back for round 2. Here’s what I purchased this time around: Come Talk To Me 2, TAA, P79, P83, MX102 - Experimental A314 Mix 1 MX113, MX114, MX115, MX116 - Akuto Test Mix Pack MX138 - Liquid Sunshine MX143 I did not purchase Instant Honesty or Instant Openness because I already have woemn telling me their life stories within minutes of meeting, so I’m guessing that I’m already producing those chemicals in decent quantity, and didn’t want to OD. Once received, I will definitely be experimenting with them and will come back and post my results. But, anyone who wants to chime in with combinations that they have used and had success with, are more than welcome to do so, and recommendations are appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458/2 "2007-11-07T00:23:21Z")
Hi Mark You got alot of advanced products there. Just be aware they take much longer to make and you have to report on them because they are test products and sold at a lose to androtics so we can provide feedback about them for future consumer products. If no feedback is provided you may not be able to get them amymore. (read updates at the bottom of my post). Use each one by its self for about a week at different doses. Keep track of the amounts used, application points, self effects if any and results . Then report on forum. After you have tested them one at a time you can start using combos and reporting on those. If you see no results with a product dont feel bad. Report that because that is important as well to androtics. The more reports we give about the advanced products the more consumer products we will see and they may be able to keep the advanced section open to everyone. At least we can hope LOL 😉 Oh its sometimes hard to see the results of a product clearly especially if its subtle. This is why its important to use it for a whole week or more if you can. You will begin to see patterns forming this way. This way you wont be left wondering if it was the mones or just a fluke. Have big fun 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458/3 "2007-11-07T17:59:23Z")
Tisha, Thanks for the advise. I have been trolling the threads, many which you’ve contributed to, as well putting in my 2 cents as well. And, that’s how I went about selecting some of the advanced products I picked. I fully intend to become (remain) a regular contributer here, and enjoy sharing my experiences. I have a notebook dedicated to writing about products and combinations worn, how much was used and were they were applied, and the interactions I obvserved while wearing them. I want to be the next MAD TATER, and have a recipe book like his :-), And I’m always happy to report on and share those experiences with Androtics and other users. I have been reading what a couple of posters had to say about the oxytocin and MHARRIS’ search for a bottle of Liquid Trust that atually produces noticeable results, but it doesn’t look like he ever found one. I have had 2 of the 1 ounce bottles of Liquid Trust, the first generated entirely noticeable and positive results, while the second didn’t seem to do anything at all. I did not keep either of my bottles refrigerated. Have you heard or seen anything further on oxytocin, or happen to know whether Androtics is doing anything with it, or considering doing so? Mark ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458/4 "2007-11-07T18:13:11Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Hey folks, > > I’m still pretty new, but have had some terrific results with my first round of products from [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com), which included: Turn Up The Heat, Instant Female Magic Ammo, and a bottle of NPA purchased elsewhere, as well as a bottle of Liquid Trust that I’d already had. > > You can see my posting on the results I’ve had using them here: [45 year old in Dallas Texas](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/45-year-old-in-dallas-texas/6389) > > Anyway, I loved the products so much and after getting the $15 GC , I just had to come back for round 2. Here’s what I purchased this time around: > > Come Talk To Me 2, > TAA, > P79, > P83, > MX102 - Experimental A314 Mix 1 > MX113, MX114, MX115, MX116 - Akuto Test Mix Pack > MX138 - Liquid Sunshine > MX143 > > I did not purchase Instant Honesty or Instant Openness because I already have woemn telling me their life stories within minutes of meeting, so I’m guessing that I’m already producing those chemicals in decent quantity, and didn’t want to OD. > > Once received, I will definitely be experimenting with them and will come back and post my results. But, anyone who wants to chime in with combinations that they have used and had success with, are more than welcome to do so, and recommendations are appreciated. AMMO, TUTH, and IFM didn’t make your REORDER list, or is it that you still have a good supply? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458/5 "2007-11-07T18:43:28Z")
M&M, I am extremely happy with all three products and still have a good supply fo all three. I have tried numerous products from numerous manufacturers and Androtics blow away everything else I’ve tried. However, I will say that the NPA is an awesome product too. So, how about you, heard anything further on oxytocin? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458/6 "2007-11-07T21:18:21Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > M&M, > > I am extremely happy with all three products and still have a good supply fo all three. > > I have tried numerous products from numerous manufacturers and Androtics blow away everything else I’ve tried. However, I will say that the NPA is an awesome product too. > > So, how about you, heard anything further on oxytocin? Was just checking. Annnnd, you’re right … NPA and TE will always have a spot in my cardiac muscle! Oxytocin did nothing for me, so I eased up off that wagon. Somewhere deep in the woods, I THINK, I heard the snorting formula was best, but how could you walk up to a woman/man and say, “Hey! Snort this up, 'cause I want you to trust and feel comfortable with me.” 😮 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-sought-and-appreciated/6458/7 "2007-11-07T23:44:11Z")
Check MHARRIS’ posting on oxytocin, he commented that he believed that possibly some bottles of the Liquid Trust either contained placebo’s or were just bad batches. I have had 2 bottles of liquid trust myself, both in 1 ounce sizes. The first really seemed to work quite well, and the second seemed to do nothing at all. I am wondering if their quality control is just really bad and some batches of their synthetic compound weren’t developed properly.