# TAA and TAL? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 3, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705 "2009-03-03T22:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/1 "2009-03-03T22:20:18Z")
Hello, I have been wondering what TAA and TAL are but I have not been able to find a detailed explanation in the search. Can someone help? Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/2 "2009-03-03T22:43:10Z")
Jas and the team know exactly what they are but for testing reasons, they are designated with the T prefix and treated in the same way as putatives. ---
**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/3 "2009-03-03T22:44:35Z")
Thanks! But i was wondering what the effects were? ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/4 "2009-03-04T03:07:45Z")
[This is a good TAA thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tac-vs-taa-including-p74-p124-effects/23457/1). Search the women’s forum for more on TAL. It is generally considered a female phero – kind of a feminine dominance thing. On a man, a combination of just a little TAL and TAH (about 3.75mcg each) gives a princely quality, especially when worn with A314. ---
**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/5 "2009-03-04T03:28:57Z")
Thanks man, much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/6 "2009-03-10T12:24:19Z")
TAL adds feminine appearance when worn on men. It makes you easily a part of a female group, girls see you no more as a threat. It’s a well known LMR reducer when used with more masculine pheros, like -none. When worn on a girl, it makes you want her babies. I hope that helps. If you need any other answer, feel free to ask - I’ll be glad to reply. Hope that helps! Rep points appreciated! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/7 "2009-03-10T12:54:29Z")
> [@deeddy](#): > > TAL adds feminine appearance when worn on men. It makes you easily a part of a female group, girls see you no more as a threat. It’s a well known LMR reducer when used with more masculine pheros, like -none. When worn on a girl, it makes you want her babies. I hope that helps. If you need any other answer, feel free to ask - I’ll be glad to reply. Hope that helps! > > Rep points appreciated! 😉 hey deeddy! have you ever tried TAL? ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/8 "2009-03-10T20:01:55Z")
> [@deeddy](#): > > When worn on a girl, it makes you want her babies. > Rep points appreciated! 😉 I’m thinking you have TAL and TAH confused a bit 🙄 Can I echo Lor…Have you ever tried TAL? ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/9 "2009-03-12T17:38:00Z")
> [@Xiphoid](#): > > I’m thinking you have TAL and TAH confused a bit 🙄 Your observation made me think, so I had to reread all the threads about tal. you should definitely check this one out: > [@Tailoring with TAH & TAL](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tailoring-with-tah-tal/24685): > > I’ve ordered IS/b & have a feeling this matches my personality more than the discription of IS/a, but in terms of tailoring for my TG’s personality I’m a bit confused… I thought TAH was the one generally most effective on alpha males, but maybee I’m confusing myself with doing too much reading? "Tisha; (Group A) Well I noticed that the guys that attract to TAL when I wear it seem to be attracted to stronger more self confident women who are not afraid to speak there minds. They tend to have r… I tested TAL on my LTR and it definitely pushed me to fall in love with her. I made a conclusion that I’m falling in love only with girls who are dominant, bright minded and strong by nature (TAL adds to this) and who have certain leadership qualities and can lead women (and follow me). That’s why that experience made me say “when using TAL on a girl it makes you want her babies”. > [@](#): > > Can I echo Lor…Have you ever tried TAL? Oh, and let me reply: [http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5853/moleculel.th.jpg](http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=moleculel.jpg) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/10 "2009-03-12T17:48:27Z")
> [@deeddy](#): > > Your observation made me think, so I had to reread all the threads about tal. you should definitely check this one out: > > [Tailoring with TAH & TAL](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tailoring-with-tah-tal/24685) > > I tested TAL on my LTR and it definitely pushed me to fall in love with her. I made a conclusion that I’m falling in love only with girls who are dominant, bright minded and strong by nature (TAL adds to this) and who have certain leadership qualities and can lead women (and follow me). That’s why that experience made me say “when using TAL on a girl it makes you want her babies”. im trying to get to know your report style,deeddy, so that i can understand you better. are you saying you werent in love with this girl before the TAL? i wear alot of it; i want to know how im affecting others. im going to want to pick your brain, it might clarify some TAL questions us ladies have 😉 also, if she is the same person _without the TAL_, please note that she _wont_ follow you. she will walk beside you, but TAL doesnt follow. and i believe this is why you love her 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/11 "2009-03-12T18:17:23Z")
> [@deeddy](#): > > Your observation made me think, so I had to reread all the threads about tal. you should definitely check this one out: > > [Tailoring with TAH & TAL](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tailoring-with-tah-tal/24685) Yeah…did you see who’s thread that is? 😉 I have definitively checked that one out 🙄 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/12 "2009-03-12T18:17:51Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > im trying to get to know your report style,deeddy, so that i can understand you better. > > are you saying you werent in love with this girl before the TAL? > > i wear alot of it; > i want to know how im affecting others. > > im going to want to pick your brain, > it might clarify some TAL questions us ladies have 😉 > > also, if she is the same person _without the TAL_, > please note that she _wont_ follow you. > she will walk beside you, > but TAL doesnt follow. > and i believe this is why you love her 😉 excuse me broken english (not my native tongue), that’s exactly what i wanted to say: she will walk beside me. 🙂 once that you asked that question, was i love in her before tal, at the second thought, tal made me fall in love with her in an indirect manner. not that it literally made me adore her, but it made me think about her from a different aspect. it triggered some deeper emotions and make a better connection. she told me that i became more gentle and passionate, i was more into her, whatever it means. i’ve always lusted for a confident girl who can put a guy where it belongs (to make him feel more important, yet not downgrading her). since i’m a person who’s mindset is definitely above the majority here in my town (i don’t want to sound egocentric at all, but i live in a small town in a country where mediocrity is a prevalent lifestyle), i had a hard time finding a person who can walk beside me, who can be my best friend and a girlfriend at the same time. because this relationship was fresh (only couple of weeks), she was affraid would i accept her, so her confidence level went a bit low. she’s confident by nature and tal only added to her congruency. using tal on her for couple of times made me sure she’s the one (she was wearing it). so, it only added to her confidence and it boosted her natural appearance and upgraded it, if i can use that term. i have to make a point that i’ve never used tal on her in public (only in bed, hehe). girls, feel free to ask more questions about it. give me some help here to make more conclusions i left out. i’m a male, and males, to be politically correct, are somewhat emotionally challenged. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/13 "2009-03-12T18:23:22Z")
> [@Xiphoid](#): > > Yeah…did you see who’s thread that is? 😉 I have definitively checked that one out 🙄 🙂 lol! 😃 anyway, i’m sure it would be useful to girls and boys here. i’d also love to hear about your experience after two months of using it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/14 "2009-03-12T18:25:17Z")
> [@deeddy](#): > > excuse me broken english (not my native tongue), that’s exactly what i wanted to say: she will walk beside me. 🙂 > > once that you asked that question, was i love in her before tal, at the second thought, tal made me fall in love with her in an indirect manner. > > not that it literally made me adore her, but it made me think about her from a different aspect. it triggered some deeper emotions and make a better connection. she told me that i became more gentle and passionate, i was more into her, whatever it means. > > i’ve always lusted for a confident girl who can put a guy where it belongs (to make him feel more important, yet not downgrading her). since i’m a person who’s mindset is definitely above the majority here in my town (i don’t want to sound egocentric at all, but i live in a small town in a country where mediocrity is a prevalent lifestyle), i had a hard time finding a person who can walk beside me, who can be my best friend and a girlfriend at the same time. > > because this relationship was fresh (only couple of weeks), she was affraid would i accept her, so her confidence level went a bit low. > > she’s confident by nature and tal only added to her congruency. using tal on her for couple of times made me sure she’s the one (she was wearing it). so, it only added to her confidence and it boosted her natural appearance and upgraded it, if i can use that term. > > i have to make a point that i’ve never used tal on her in public (only in bed, hehe). > > girls, feel free to ask more questions about it. give me some help here to make more conclusions i left out. i’m a male, and males, to be politically correct, are somewhat emotionally challenged. 😉 super helpful, deeddy. reps. i can tell others what i see visually when i wear TAL, but getting your perspective was great. much needed. does TAL do anything for you outside of your perception of her? when she wears it, are you relaxed by it, or excited by it? when you wear it, are there any self-effects? thanks so much 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-and-tal/26705/15 "2009-03-12T19:07:02Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > super helpful, deeddy. > reps. > > i can tell others what i see visually when i wear TAL, but getting your perspective was great. > much needed. > > does TAL do anything for you outside of your perception of her? > when she wears it, > are you relaxed by it, > or excited by it? > > when you wear it, are there any self-effects? > > thanks so much 🙂 i didn’t pay attention to see how’s my body reactions. i’m sorry, since this is a long distance relationship at this point, i can’t help you more right now. you’ll have to wait till the next weekend. i can make a promise to test tal then. 😉 i’ll try to use tal on my female friend tomorrow evening (it’s friday) and will give you more feedback. i only used tal once in one of my mixes, when i was out with a set that has 3 girls in it (the other 2 were my best friend and me). after couple of hours i was able to notice some very interesting things. it was a very strange experience. girls were extra chatty with me, they behave as i was one of them, a girl. 🙂 they still looked at me as i was a male (from the aspect of protecting them), i suppose it was due to -none. but what was strange, they tried to gossip with me, which they never did since then! 🙂 i suppose in their subconscious i was still the stronger one physically, but their sexual guard was down, i was not a threat at all. now i know why someone said it’s an effective LMR. 😃 what’s more important is they were trying to assure me about some non-important facts 3 of them were arguing about, so they were pointing out that my opinion did matter (my friend was marginalized, lol). i was unable to focus on my body reactions, because i was a bit drunk and was impressed by their reaction. 🙂 if i can correctly recall the mix, it was like (90% sure): - 2 sprays of tal, one spread between my wrists, and one on my chests (sprayed over clothes) - ammo to go (not more than 2 sprays 1x dosage) - is to go - not more than 2 spray of 2x - io to go - 1 spray of 2x