# TAA + Beta-Nol + A314 , we have a winner

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 18, 2006, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101 "2006-01-18T03:06:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/1 "2006-01-18T03:06:24Z")

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and other wild tales… since the A314+beta-nol has become my favorite working juice, added about 25 mu on top… now this is an interesting combination… the impact was like Instant Celebrity… I swear. Sat in a cab for a 20 minute ride to the airport breathing in my vapor cloud, by the time I had passed thru security and was tooling around the concourse pre boarding I was feeling both fully grounded and something that wasn’t euphoria, radiant might come closer to the mark, my posture improved, my gait lightened, it would not have surprised me if I were asked for my autograph, my thymus gland felt tuned up, a flashy Cartier watch would have felt in character…

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**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/2 "2006-01-18T03:26:05Z")

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How much a314 and beta nol?

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/3 "2006-01-18T06:18:52Z")

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about 4-5 drops of A314, about 300 mu beta-nol, 25 mu TAA… boogie time.

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**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/4 "2006-01-18T12:53:01Z")

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You put all that under clothes, right?

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/5 "2006-01-18T13:57:44Z")

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those were guesstimates… proportions may be different

Preference is about 50-70% under clothes, balance on neck and in hair. Especially in winter, the insulation layers will absorb the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) then re-release it in controlled fashion. Natural fibers excel at this. Nothing beats a good woolen sweater as a slow release substrate. The best clothing trick is to layer thin materials instead of wearing one heavy sweater. Then you can add or subtract layers for precise temperature control, and each one will have a -mone infusion. Same goes for good fragrances. The quality products will diffuse gently rather then blast out into the room. More civilized that way.

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/6 "2006-01-19T03:17:53Z")

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Instant Celebrity

> [@tacitus](#):
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> and other wild tales… since the A314+beta-nol has become my favorite working juice, added about 25 mu on top… now this is an interesting combination… the impact was like Instant Celebrity… I swear. Sat in a cab for a 20 minute ride to the airport breathing in my vapor cloud, by the time I had passed thru security and was tooling around the concourse pre boarding I was feeling both fully grounded and something that wasn’t euphoria, radiant might come closer to the mark, my posture improved, my gait lightened, it would not have surprised me if I were asked for my autograph, my thymus gland felt tuned up, a flashy Cartier watch would have felt in character…

I wonder how much [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) that is equivalent to. I have noticed the same and had mentioned to Michael on PM. Experienced that celebrity effect recently when out in San Francisco - not only from my own inner feeling but also reactions of others. (I had a different Kitchen Sink mix on but from prior occasions I am sure the TAA +A314 were important in producing that effect).

How do you feel when your thymus seems tuned up?

Do you think the beta-nol made much of a difference? How does betanol affect you generally?

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/7 "2006-01-19T12:15:00Z")

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Mr. Thymus gland is an interesting beastie

the first unusual feature of this gland is that is, proportionately, huge in the infant, quite large and vital in the adolescent, and begins to wither noticably by the third decade of life, then is reduced to a minor residue by the fifth.

It produces a cluster of immune stimulating and regulating hormones, appears to have a close working relationship with the thyroid gland, and also protects us against auto-immune attack. How it does this is one of the more amazing stories of DNA expression…

The programmed self elimination of the thymus appears to be one of the core elements of aging, as if there has been a deliberate (in the evolutionary sense) effort to remove elders from the population to make way for young, reproductively competent, healthy new hominids.

Certain pheromone like substances also are implicated in the mate selection process, whereby potential mates “compare” immune competence… and this in fact may signal deeper layers of genetic information, i.e. an immune system error might be tied to a broader range of problems realted to a DNA mutation, and the immune signal matching between potential mates may allow them to avoid too many pile ups of recessive genes…

In layman’s terms, you are likely to be attracted to someone who will maximally reduce the chances of your offspring being genetically screwed up.

Illness or general DNA quality may also have a strong effect on pheromone production, and with good reason. The human species will survive the best if the fittest can signal their fitness, as it has done for the last 500,000 years or so…

This mechanism may work in the other direction as well, the right combination of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in the right concentration could potentially act as an immune tonic. Medicine now recognizes that purely physical touch can have a profound healing effect. Infants wither and die without touch. Adults develop or exacerbate a wide range of degenerative disease without physical touch. One has to wonder if there is a pheromonal component to this as well.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/8 "2006-01-20T11:24:49Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> I wonder how much Instant Shine that is equivalent to. I have noticed the same and had mentioned to Michael on PM. Experienced that celebrity effect recently when out in San Francisco - not only from my own inner feeling but also reactions of others. (I had a different Kitchen Sink mix on but from prior occasions I am sure the TAA +A314 were important in producing that effect).

I agree [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (mostly TAA) makes me feel like that too… Try peacocking that will only enhance the effect on other people - ie. wearing cool clothes and looking great but different to everyone else. I notice when I am wearing a cool hat and nice jumper, and am cleanly shaven, I often get that kind of celebrity buzz… it makes me feel validated all the time which makes me feel more confident…

TAA is my favourite mone for effects on myself. It makes me feel ‘on’ all the time like as in ‘rare form’ - I make jokes I wouldn’t have made without it, I am quicker with the jokes too, and am more extroverted, outspoken, and forward in starting conversations with attractive women (I am generally a little shy and not ‘on’ often without mones). It also puts me in a good mood and with Alpha-Nol makes me feel euphoric. Because it is such a mood brightener I do notice others gravitate in my vicinity…

Now to be honest I can’t say it helps with rapport (like ANol and BNol do) really or with closing the deal (like -None does). But it’s effects on my own confidence, both from people’s reactions to me with it on and from it’s own effects on me, make me think that the product is worth it’s volume in Gold!

And I have to say that my Instant Shine V1 does last longer (at least 4-5 hours) than the Experimone TAA 10 mcg per spray bottle that I was using before. That bottle did give me some intense hits within 30 minutes of application though…

Visionary

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/9 "2006-01-20T15:26:32Z")

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use the A314 as a fixative

the experimones are fugitive (the evaporate and lose potency) unless they have a time release base, such as A314.

TAA is great fun although not much traction if used alone. Think of it as a flavoring, sort of the “peppermint” of pheromones, where TAF is more analagous to a dash of chili pepper juice,

Like cooking, they need a substrate to bind them. Various oils, glycols, silicones are candidates. In perfumery, waxes are even used to stabilize atttars for shipment.

The perfumery industry must have devoted untold resources to perfecting fixatives. The interesting idea with a good fixative is that one could use a far higher initial dose and gradually release that over time. Pheromones are extremely problematic in that you don’t know at what point in time how much is diffusing off of your body.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/10 "2006-01-22T06:46:06Z")

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> [@tacitus](#):
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> and other wild tales… since the A314+beta-nol has become my favorite working juice,

That’s so funny, in a way.

A314 and [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) (which was the very first beta nol product) were our very first two products ever, several years back. Our old catalog.

I’m pleased to see that someone as experienced you as found our original technology so compelling!

> [@tacitus](#):
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> added about 25 mu on top… now this is an interesting combination… the impact was like Instant Celebrity… I swear.

And now you’re using our two original mixes, with what amounts to the newest one, and one of my personal favorites at the moment… Instant Shine (which is a time-released refinement of molecule TAA).

This is somewhat similar to a prospective mix of ours of AXS, except that relies more heavily on friendlier pheromones, too, such as alpha nol.

The “heavy” tone of A314 and Beta-nol is too much for most pheromone users to deal with.

You appear to be particularly adept at social situations, much moreso than the "average bear’. I won’t claim to be as adept as controlling and influencing behavior as you. In fact, I’m fairly laissez faire, but with a massive dose of psychological (psychology was my major way back when) and some NLP training.

As a side note: for the longest time, I’ve gotten bnol (but not anol) like effects without using any whatsoever - so personally getting my head around this molecule was not a trivial matter for me. I had to depend almost exclusively on experiences of testers.

With BNOL, I was seeing that others go the kind of candid, honest reactions I got, but WITHOUT any training or attention paid to their wording whatsoever. That allowed me to better identify what was happening.

> [@tacitus](#):
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> Sat in a cab for a 20 minute ride to the airport breathing in my vapor cloud, by the time I had passed thru security and was tooling around the concourse pre boarding I was feeling both fully grounded and something that wasn’t euphoria, radiant might come closer to the mark, my posture improved, my gait lightened, it would not have surprised me if I were asked for my autograph, my thymus gland felt tuned up, a flashy Cartier watch would have felt in character…

Funny that you should use the word radiant, given that TAA is the heart of Instant Shine!

It’s really remarkable to see the direction this takes a mix.

A VERY ego gratifying effect.

I haven’t had much of an ego in years (I find that more than a small ones get in the way of making real progress), but the sort of mix you’re describing creates fullfills an ego so nicely, I suspect it might be time to grow a bigger one. 🙂

Maybe, anyway… (maybe after I get some more work done!) While the work may be good, never being quite satisified that the work is “good enough” is an effective driver for progress!

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-beta-nol-a314-we-have-a-winner/101/11 "2007-08-28T16:45:23Z")

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How many to-go sprays of instant shine is that?
