# TAC vs TAA: what's the difference, and can they be combined with P74? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 1, 2008, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tac-vs-taa-whats-the-difference-and-can-they-be-combined-with-p74/23457 "2008-12-01T04:56:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tac-vs-taa-whats-the-difference-and-can-they-be-combined-with-p74/23457/12 "2008-12-18T06:27:48Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > It might help if you defined what you mean by “edgy” for me. > Are the “others” you mention all men? Other _women_ have reported the slow, still, heavy quality of P83, so perhaps it is a sex determined reaction. Probably all men. I don’t always check what forum a thread is in, but most of the threads I come across are in the Men’s forum. I mostly just use search and go from the oldest thread to the newest. It’s very possible there is a sex determined reaction. It’s definitely ‘heavy’ in terms of intensity. p83 kinda permeates the air, like being able to cut the tension with a knife. My reports on p83 might better describe what I mean by ‘edgy’. I think tension is a key word. > [@diane999](#): > > I can’t speak to or relate to the coming off of drugs part of this, so I don’t really know what you mean here. The one time I tried cocaine (24 years ago) I had a splitting headache for three days afterward and never had the desire to experiment with it again. That is the only thing I remember about it. Ooh, that was probably cut with some nasty stuff. Not like I’m am expert on good cocaine or anything, but bad shit definitely hurts your nose, head and anything else the added chemicals touch. Well, do you/did you used to smoke cigarettes? I don’t smoke cigs regularly, but whenever I do, I get a similar feeling though less in intensity. > [@diane999](#): > > Have you run solo TAC and P83 tests? TAC yes, p83 no. The reports I’ve posted on TAC aren’t very detailed at all. I’m don’t think you can get too much information from them. There have been a few other tests that I never bothered posting about. [If it helps you too, great... - #31 by Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/31) > [@If it helps you too, great...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/123): > > Thanks PS. slight_smile I forgot to mention. I don’t know how much pheromones played a part, but I was stupid and got pulled over. Some people started crossing the street after the light turned green, after having stood there waiting to cross the other way.. Anyways, the cop lets me off with a stern warning. I don’t care if it was the pheromones or not, I was just happy to be home! slight_smile Okay, so last night was pretty good too. I wore 2 sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), 1.5 sprays of IH… My experiences with p83 are limited to adding in p83 after a couple hours. This let me see how my current combo was working in a given social situation, then how the dynamics of the situation changed when p83 was introduced. I’ve also used it as part of larger combinations. I don’t know if they will be as helpful since there are many other products and putatives involved. > [@If it helps you too, great...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/51): > > Can I change this? First off, I lied. I do have a p93 variant mix. It’s mx203. So I have [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Shine, Instant Shine (2x), Instant Openness, p74, TAF, and mx203. Don’t ask why I didn’t bring the p93. I should have. DOH! Okay, so I took some notes yesterday. They are a little scattered because they are my observations over the course of three days. I started with 1 spray to the throat, the day after 2 sprays, and today 2 sprays to the throat and 1 spray in my hair. I’m not… > [@If it helps you too, great...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-it-helps-you-too-great/9451/68): > > So I don’t have too much to add. I wore 2 sprays of TAF (15mcg/spray), 3 sprays of p79 (5mcg/spray). I was kind of drowsy and sluggish in the morning the combo kind of woke me up and put me in go mode. I wasn’t light on my feet or anything but I was awake and relatively clear. It was a big difference. I immediately got started on whatever tasks, work related, not work related, that I needed to do for the day and didn’t look up at the clock for about 2.5 hours. At lunch (4 hours after TAF + p79) … > [@diane999](#): > > I’m still testing P83 and TAC. I haven’t done either solo, because, to be honest, neither of these molecules is all that exiting to me alone. But in mixes they have the potential to enhance or add a new dimension. So, I have run parallel tests with mixes that substitute only one molecule, and in these I have tested both, switching P83 and TAC. In each case, P83 added massive weight. TAC was more subtle and hard to pin down, but the weight was not there in the mixes that contained TAC, but no P83. Weight? As in, presence? I agree, p83 definitely grabs my attention more than TAC. It would be ‘heavier’ or more intense. TAC is definitely lighter in vibe, not heavy like p83. > [@diane999](#): > > I’ve never experienced any kind of nervousness or agitation with P83 as long as TAA, P74, or P87 is not in the mix. When those molecules are absent, P83 only adds stillness and weight. Seeing how all my mixes include TAA or p74 when I have used p83 and that I haven’t tried p83 solo, I’ll need to try it myself to see if p83 itself brings that sense of nervousness/agitation, or if it’s the result of some combination of TAA, p74, and p83. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tac-vs-taa-whats-the-difference-and-can-they-be-combined-with-p74/23457)._