# TAF at 50 mcg: no help focusing on physics, but an urge to clean and get to work **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 1, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907 "2007-08-01T20:50:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/1 "2007-08-01T20:50:21Z")
So far, TAF did not help me focus on my Physics or tutor training, from what I can tell. I usually wear 50 mcg. However, it does seem to help me get off my butt and do some work. As I am usually extremely busy, my half of the dorm room is usually a little cluttered. I feel bad since it makes me think I’m being inconsiderate of my roommate (even though she is never here). So one time when she came in the room I felt bad again and actually got up and started cleaning. I usually just sit there and continue reading my internet training readings. Then I was not feeling very well (I had drunk too much caffeine). Whenever I don’t feel well, I just call in sick just in case I really am contagious (although the big reason is that I know I would not be too productive). But I decided to suck it up and go anyway because I knew it would pass soon. When I got to work, I talked to my supervisor about what I needed to get done. My supervisor is a little scatterbrained and it is usually hard for me to follow her. She usually just gives me a short list of things to do and let me at it. However, she had me sit by her and we discussed what needed to get done and then we walked around the stockroom and lab area finding more things to do. This took an hour, and my shift is two hours long. I thought that was interesting. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 9:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/2 "2007-08-02T09:52:51Z")
Good report. I find it only makes me do things I want or need to do but have put off. Its funny how alot of people report the cleaning urge. Almost like its a nesting mone. Sounds like it effected you supervisor as well. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/3 "2007-08-02T14:07:58Z")
> [@tomboy05](#): > > When I got to work, I talked to my supervisor about what I needed to get done. My supervisor is a little scatterbrained and it is usually hard for me to follow her. She usually just gives me a short list of things to do and let me at it. However, she had me sit by her and we discussed what needed to get done and then we walked around the stockroom and lab area finding more things to do. This took an hour, and my shift is two hours long. I thought that was interesting. Nice report tomboy! I am very interested to know if you and your supervisor were more lucid than usual? ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/4 "2007-08-02T14:59:17Z")
I love TAF…I’m going to go put some on right now, as a matter of fact… ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/5 "2007-08-02T16:52:04Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Nice report tomboy! I am very interested to know if you and your supervisor were more lucid than usual? I don’t think she was any more lucid. I kept having to stop and rephrase what exactly she wants me to do so I could understand, even with the TAF. She would usually get started telling me what to do and showing me how to do it and then get distracted by something else and start discussing it so she confuses me a lot. I’ll try the TAF again today and see how it affects her again. It would be nice to know if it is something that would work for my tutoring clients. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/6 "2007-08-02T17:20:03Z")
I’m really gonna have to get some TAF on my next order. I’d really like to see how it would effect me. I’d kinda like to work out the dosing though. ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/7 "2007-08-02T21:09:58Z")
I wore 50mcg again to work today. My supervisor did kind of follow me around giving me a list of things to do, but I really don’t know if its any more than what she would have tone without the TAF. However, I was a little anti-social today because just before I went to work I wrote my recent ex boyfriend not to contact me basically because I found out he got another girlfriend the day after he broke up with me. It broke my heart sending that message, but I think it was what I had to do. I just pretty much hid in the stockroom where I wouldn’t really have to talk to people and busied myself there. I did keep pretty busy despite the fact I was down in the dumps. I’ll go to work Monday without the TAF and see if my supervisor’s reaction is different than with the TAF. ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/8 "2007-08-02T21:17:38Z")
> [@tomboy05](#): > > However, I was a little anti-social today because just before I went to work I wrote my recent ex boyfriend not to contact me basically because I found out he got another girlfriend the day after he broke up with me. It broke my heart sending that message, but I think it was what I had to do. I am sorry your relationship didn’t work out, but you are better off without him. I remember your recent post about you and him and how you got together. I had a bad feeling from the start. I think he just asked you about a “relationship” in order to get you to have sex with him. Take it from someone with experience. He was just using you, hun. Leave him alone…you’ll find someone better. ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/9 "2007-08-02T21:35:05Z")
> [@dolly](#): > > I am sorry your relationship didn’t work out, but you are better off without him. I remember your recent post about you and him and how you got together. I had a bad feeling from the start. I think he just asked you about a “relationship” in order to get you to have sex with him. Take it from someone with experience. He was just using you, hun. Leave him alone…you’ll find someone better. Just curious, are you talking about my post in estratetraenol notes, or about my post discussing “Pat’s” behavior? Because my ex is the guy I talked about in estratetraenol notes, not Pat. That and it took me a tiny bit of prompting to get him to have sex with me. Not much, but a little. I really don’t know how appropriate it is to discuss this on an online forum, but I’ll try not to go into too much detail. I remember we were laying on the couch and I reached up and started playing with his ear (because I know a lot of guys like that). After a little bit he told me to stop because it made him feel “naughty” and said he’s going to have to start nibbling my ear, so he leaned over and did that for a little bit. After he stopped I reached up and played with his ear a little more and he didn’t stop me. After a little bit of ear playing (by both of us) I told him that I was starting to feel naughty. He paused and said that he was trying to be very careful because he didn’t think I was ready. I then asked him what made him think I wasn’t ready, and then we did it. As for using me for sex, I think I may have been as guilty as he is. I quite honestly think he was lonely and desperate for a girlfriend that he was willing to risk my friendship with him. The way that he got a different girlfriend the day after he broke up with me just kind of makes me think he doesn’t respect my feelings at all. I wouldn’t have minded if he started dating a week or two after we broke up, but definitely not the day after. I really don’t know. That is just the way I am interpreting things. I am willing to accept that I am wrong though. ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/10 "2007-08-02T22:02:30Z")
> [@tomboy05](#): > > Just curious, are you talking about my post in estratetraenol notes, or about my post discussing “Pat’s” behavior? Yes, it was your est notes post… > [@tomboy](#): > > That and it took me a tiny bit of prompting to get him to have sex with me. Not much, but a little. > > He paused and said that he was trying to be very careful because he didn’t think I was ready. I then asked him what made him think I wasn’t ready, and then we did it. As for using me for sex, I think I may have been as guilty as he is. That may very well be true, but I would like to just point something out, from my experience and reading of the situation. Two things. First, I feel like his statement about your not being ready was a LINE. He wanted you to want him and wanted you to initiate it and tell him it was OK to go farther. Second, you stated in the beginning of the est notes post that he asked you if you would be interested in a “casual realtionship”. To me, that spells SEX. I don’t think that, from the beginning, he was looking for a real relationship, but just a sexual one. Did you ask him what he meant by “casual”? “Casual” usually means a sexual relationship, with no exclusivity and no committment. > [@tomboy](#): > > The way that he got a different girlfriend the day after he broke up with me just kind of makes me think he doesn’t respect my feelings at all. I wouldn’t have minded if he started dating a week or two after we broke up, but definitely not the day after. To be brutally honest, he probably had her all “lined up” before he broke up with you. He showed by his actions that he did not feel at all committed to you or to protecting your feelings. If I could give you a little friendly advice, just make sure you are very careful. Men do not always see sex the same way women do. Some women play the sexual field as much as men and enjoy it, but some women feel that sex means an emotional connection. But, men don’t always see it that way. And, whether he was your friend or not, young men especially will say and do whatever necessary to get what they want, without consideration of the consequences. Trust me, I have been there. If you would like to talk privately dear, feel free to PM me. ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/11 "2007-08-02T22:22:53Z")
Thanks Dolly. What you said actually made a lot of sense. I even told him that I thought he dumped me for her. He denied it and said she came to his place of work to play in a tournament and he took her to Starbucks and they just hit it off. He didn’t even tell me he had gotten into a relationship. I would never had known had his girlfriend gotten upset at him taking my phone call and he had me tell her there was nothing between us. After I made that last post, I started thinking about it and found some other indicators that you were right. He said he hadn’t had sex for 3 months before me, and he thought that I would be interested in a relationship with him because we did have a little something going on in high school. Turns out he was leading me on and he had a girlfriend at that time (which I did not know about) but he said he felt bad about that and kept silent about it. That and we lived three hours away from each other. We had sex a lot during the couple times we were in our relationship. Now he got rid of me so he could have sex with someone where he could see more often. I also noticed that her voice sounded familiar when I talked to his girlfriend. When I was visiting him and went to his place of work with him, I remember one of the girls there seemed like she really wanted him around. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the girl he’s seeing now. That and there are also some indicators that I don’t think is appropriate to discuss on this forum :o. Let’s just say he was a little selfish about the sex. . . ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/12 "2007-08-02T22:40:05Z")
You’re very welcome. I know my opinion was unsolicited, and I got off the topic of [pheromones](https://a314.com/), but it was for very good reason. You see, in my 40 years (my birthday is this month, actually), I have dealt with just about every type of man, and every type of relationship that you can imagine, from ultra casual to very married. That is why I tried to offer you some advice. With the exception of the man I am currently with, they were all bad situations. But, at least I have learned what NOT to do. So, anyways, I hope I helped…you take care! ---
**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/13 "2007-08-02T22:49:22Z")
I don’t think there is much I can say here, except I am really sorry to hear you are feeling down and echo Dolly in saying you deserve better. ☹ (((((Hugs))))) May ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/14 "2007-08-03T00:03:03Z")
Thanks ladies. Quite honestly, I wasn’t even down when we broke up. I was ready to admit we made better friends. I only started feeling down when I found out he got a new girlfriend the day after. Anyway, I just found this article on the [msn.com](http://msn.com). I thought it was very coincidental that it was a feature article today while I’m having all these thoughts and feelings 😛. It strongly reminded me of him while I was reading it, because he fed me a story about how he was so messed up after the girl he dated for around 2 years left him for one of his best friends. [Do you keep falling for jerks? - MSN Dating & Personals](http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=6937&TrackingID=516311&BannerID=544657&menuid=6>1=10287) ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/15 "2007-08-03T04:06:44Z")
From my observations for nearly 20 years, good girls always fall for jerks!! Why do you think I ordered [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) for??🙄 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/16 "2007-08-03T05:40:09Z")
I almost wish that were my problem. At least I could chalk up the bad luck to bad judgment. I never once, not even in middle school, went for the “bad boy”. They’re all too good for me. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/17 "2007-08-03T08:24:35Z")
> [@](#): > > They’re all too good for me. 🙄 Excuse Me! I believe you worded that wrong. At least I hope you did. No one is to good for you. You are a fun, interesting, Beautiful women and one day when you least expect it your bad boy is gonna pop out of no where. Just remember sexy and beautiful is not just something you can see with your eyes. Its a state of mind a sort of vibe you give off. Know your worth, believe your beautiful (because you are) and the rest of the world will know it to. Now if you did just word that wrong, carry on and ignore my little speech LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/18 "2007-08-03T08:58:32Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > No one is to good for you. You are a fun, interesting, Beautiful women and one day when you least expect it your bad boy is gonna pop out of no where. > > Just remember sexy and beautiful is not just something you can see with your eyes. Its a state of mind a sort of vibe you give off. Know your worth, believe your beautiful (because you are) and the rest of the world will know it to.Tisha May this “little angel” be blessed with many, many good boys! Amen. ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/19 "2007-08-03T21:45:03Z")
Awww, thanks Tish. It’s been true so far, though. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907/20 "2007-08-04T01:11:54Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > No one is to good for you. True that one regardless of gender. No gal is too good for me. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-at-50-mcg-no-help-focusing-on-physics-but-an-urge-to-clean-and-get-to-work/4907.md?page=2)