# TAF = Fearless **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 28, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453 "2006-06-28T19:59:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/1 "2006-06-28T19:59:53Z")
I havent noticed the visually sharp detailed effect, but I notice I’m a lot less shy. Usually during conversations, I only keep eye contact for seconds at a time. with this, I dont turn away, I look straight into peoples eyes with my shoulders back. very confident component. it also raises the cofidence of all my mixes. I literally kamakazi into groups of people, sometimes, groups i dont even know. of course i get the last minute “should i?” but with TAF, while my mind is asking the question, everything else JUST DOES IT. thus the kamakazi reference. btw. I use about 3 sprays of 7.5 to the front of my neck.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/2 "2006-06-28T20:02:32Z")
i had a little workshop with about 10 people in my company. i walked into the room 3 min late, but when i walked in, i was fearless, no nervousness, and got right into the lesson. gave everyone sharp eye contact with a smile. I felt great!!! btw I have on 2 drops of A314, 3 sprays of TAF, and 4 sprays of It’s Himv2 ---
**Author:** ![KnowledgeIsPower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/knowledgeispower/32/1201_2.png) [@KnowledgeIsPower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KnowledgeIsPower)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/3 "2006-06-28T21:08:15Z")
Interesting. It seems to be a diverative of IS? ---
**Author:** ![TaoistBiker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taoistbiker/32/1117_2.png) [@TaoistBiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TaoistBiker)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/4 "2006-06-28T22:29:12Z")
> [@examine](#): > > I havent noticed the visually sharp detailed effect, but I notice I’m a lot less shy. Usually during conversations, I only keep eye contact for seconds at a time. with this, I dont turn away, I look straight into peoples eyes with my shoulders back. very confident component. it also raises the cofidence of all my mixes. > > I literally kamakazi into groups of people, sometimes, groups i dont even know. of course i get the last minute “should i?” but with TAF, while my mind is asking the question, everything else JUST DOES IT. thus the kamakazi reference. > > btw. I use about 3 sprays of 7.5 to the front of my neck.🆒 Single sample: With TAF the feeling that I get is “bonded”: with the experience, emotion, person - that definitely engenders confidence. TAF seems to signal “association” and trigger “flow”; but when I up the dosage above 60 mcg or so the action can starts to happen so fast that action seems to occur almost easy as thought. Like if you are downhill skiing and hit the fall line perfectly you can do the run perfectly… you _become_ what you are experiencing. It’s seems to be a very “in the moment” experience. (Sorry for all of the cliche quotes, but I don’t have a better way of communicating the experiences.) I do wonder if it can mess up your game unless your game is so instinctive as to operate without thought. I don’t have sufficient data to know how clear the processes operate when TAF’ed up. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/5 "2006-06-29T01:54:25Z")
> [@TaoistBiker](#): > > I do wonder if it can mess up your game unless your game is so instinctive as to operate without thought. I don’t have sufficient data to know how clear the processes operate when TAF’ed up. wow. i hadn’t heard anyone put it that way before but that describes almost to a _ **T** _ my experience with relatively high amounts (50mcgs+). with me, there isn’t any 5 second delay. for example, just a couple days ago i was out for an early morning walk and just happened to turn a corner and take a few steps and there was a very nice looking woman walking towards me. at almost the exact moment we were smiling at each other, an automatic sprinkler in someones lawn switches on, startling both of us with a cold splash. we both stopped in our tracks and caught our breath and without a moments hesitation i said something like “well, i normally see a woman a few times before i take a shower with her” in a very good natured way with a smile on my face the whole time. she wasn’t offended in the slightest and we stepped to the side out of the sprinkler and chatted each other up for a few minutes before continuing on with our walks in different directions. that kind of instinctual rapport, or flow, is what i have experienced in a somewhat enhanced state while using high levels of TAF. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/6 "2006-06-30T13:08:01Z")
You have to apply that same “instant” walkup rule when making a move towards any woman or anybody!!! ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/7 "2006-06-30T15:49:04Z")
> [@kutibah](#): > > Interesting. It seems to be a diverative of IS? Shine (based on TAA) and TAF both contain hormone derived [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), and that’s where their similarity stops. The molecules couldn’t be more different. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/8 "2006-06-30T15:54:19Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > You have to apply that same “instant” walkup rule when making a move towards any woman or anybody!!! That’s right. Good advice. The PUAs call this “The 3 second rule”. You approach within 3 seconds (or the bare minimum to get over there), because then you don’t have the time required to feel approach anxiety. Internal feelings are slower than that. They’re the slowest part of our internal experience (which is one reason why people get “stuck” in emotional states, despite their conscious wishes to feel something else). Also, this impresses the heck out of a women, both consciously and unconsciously. Men, in nature, are supposed to be doing the approaching. A man who approaches almost immediately is the most alpha. Women get a real tingle or other internal response out of this. You’re fulfilling both your and her biological destiny by approaching right away. Makes you both feel really good. You both get immediate psychological & physical rewards from it. Sort of like a pre-relationship orgasm (which is another physical reward for a job well done in the mating game) ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/9 "2006-06-30T22:13:58Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > That’s right. Good advice. > > The PUAs call this “The 3 second rule”. You approach within 3 seconds (or the bare minimum to get over there), because then you don’t have the time required to feel approach anxiety. > > Internal feelings are slower than that. They’re the slowst part of our internal experience. > > Also, this impresses the heck out of a women, both consciously and unconsciously. Men, in nature, are supposed to be doing the approaching. > > A man who approaches almost immediately is the most alpha. Women get a real tingle or other internal response out of this. > > You’re fulfilling both your and her biological destiny by approaching right away. Makes you both feel really good. You both get immediate psychological & physical rewards from it. Sort of like a pre-relationship orgasm (which is another physical reward for a job well done in the mating game) Lol.. just on the side.. make sure this immediate psychological and physical reward does not over whelm you. Its funny how women can easily manipulate men by making them light up with just a smile. Its like they turn men into puppy dogs or something. If you want to maintain Alpha, then you must maintain a level head in all situations and DO NOT go total EMO HARD CORE over any girl. Besides, you would not want to be seen as a fruitcake (you being a guy). ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/10 "2006-06-30T22:29:01Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Lol.. just on the side.. make sure this immediate psychological and physical reward does not over whelm you. Its funny how women can easily manipulate men by making them light up with just a smile. Its like they turn men into puppy dogs or something. > > If you want to maintain Alpha, then you must maintain a level head in all situations and DO NOT go total EMO HARD CORE over any girl. Besides, you would not want to be seen as a fruitcake (you being a guy). Yes, they shouldn’t feel as if they’ve won you over (i.e., if you instantly melt in response to their smile) Otherwise, they get an internal feeling of completion, and a little voice in their heads that say “onto the next conquest”. Something won too easily is not enjoyed. That’s why you utilize active disinterest. Re: emo hard core fruitcake… hahaha… you have a way with words 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/11 "2006-07-01T10:14:24Z")
TA-FEARLESS! _Sword drawn!_ > [@](#): > > but I notice I’m a lot less shy. Usually during conversations, I only keep eye contact for seconds at a time. with this, I dont turn away, I look straight into peoples eyes with my shoulders back. very confident component. it also raises the cofidence of all my mixes. > > I literally kamakazi into groups of people, sometimes, groups i dont even know. of course i get the last minute “should i?” but with TAF while my mind is asking the question, everything else JUST DOES IT. thus the kamakazi reference. SO TRUE. Even for female use. No hesitation. I just find myself on autopilot. Kamikaze autopilot? 😉 I didn’t even realize that 'til you brought it up, examine. TAF has this magical, funny way about it. I just _DO_ things. I am a body of action. Hmmm. We should give tons of it to the lookie-loo tire kickers trying to put their GTD (Getting Things Done) action plans into motion. Works for me! > [@](#): > > we both stopped in our tracks and caught our breath and without a moments hesitation i said something like **“well, i normally see a woman a few times before i take a shower with her”** in a very good natured way with a smile on my face the whole time. she wasn’t offended in the slightest and we stepped to the side out of the sprinkler and chatted each other up for a few minutes before continuing on with our walks in different directions. 🆒:D:angry:🙂 That Josef! ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/12 "2006-10-11T14:04:34Z")
So, what have been the dose so far to have this “just do it” response in the wearer? Examine is getting it at 22.5 mcg, josef is noticing at higher than 50 mcg. So no consensus yet?😕 I really need something which can produce this effect on me. Often I find myself intellectualizing stuff and justifying. Basically thinking too much. Is there any molecule which makes you outwardly focussed? That’s one of the reasons I am trying to dredge up old posts about TAF. TAA might help or so I thought but it has confidence enhancing property which makes me just not want to care too much about the going-ons around me, i.e. it reduces my social awareness. I remember Michael had mentioned something like that too. He was getting all sorts of hits which his friends told him later but he was oblivious to those. P79 so far is making me really get into discussions with other people or speak my mind. I think it’s good for debating. You don’t get rude or short-tempered, you just want to speak your mind and establish your point and you won’t stop until it’s done. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/13 "2006-10-11T20:10:54Z")
Also how long do effects of [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scented TAF last? Is it also a very fleeting molecule like TAA? ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-fearless/453/14 "2006-10-14T06:35:24Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > P79 so far is making me really get into discussions with other people or speak my mind. I think it’s good for debating. You don’t get rude or short-tempered, you just want to speak your mind and establish your point and you won’t stop until it’s done. Yea nbully interesting I think I get that feeling from P79 too. P79 just makes people think ‘f#$k it, I’ll say what I want’. Kind of like BNol with an attitude 🆒 ! Visionary