# TAH is in stock. Should I get it? Why or why not? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 8, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480 "2010-09-08T03:41:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/21 "2010-09-08T06:00:34Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Damn…someone want my 297? ☹ I wouldn’t give it up so easily. Try the new variation and see what happens. It’d be an interesting report since you really know how to give detail. Also its my understanding that [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are not supposed to be like shooting fish in a barrel. If you don’t make the effort, anything can get you stuck in the friend zone. 297 is interesting because I really had a bit of a swarming effect when I wore it to a concert venue, it was pretty interesting. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/22 "2010-09-08T06:11:11Z")
so thereis a new variation of this? lol… Who knows? Maybe I have the BETTER, the more masculine, version 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/23 "2010-09-08T06:34:47Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Also its my understanding that pheromones are not supposed to be like shooting fish in a barrel. And I very much agree with you John. They are not. > [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > If you don’t make the effort, anything can get you stuck in the friend zone. 297 is interesting because I really had a bit of a swarming effect when I wore it to a concert venue, it was pretty interesting. But if you are making the effort and have seen consistant success with certain mixes, yet one seems to be pinging the same results, isnt it safe to report that you think it sends a “friend zone” message? I realize I am bucking the trend here, but my impressions of this mx are not due to a lack of effort or inability to act on IOI’s. They are consistant in reactions I have seen. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/24 "2010-09-08T06:37:26Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > I wouldn’t give it up so easily. Try the new variation and see what happens. It’d be an interesting report since you really know how to give detail. > > Also its my understanding that pheromones are not supposed to be like shooting fish in a barrel. If you don’t make the effort, anything can get you stuck in the friend zone. 297 is interesting because I really had a bit of a swarming effect when I wore it to a concert venue, it was pretty interesting. OH I’m not gonna give up…was going back over some other posts and seeing you guys comments about different body types, also demographics etc., and thinking DOH! My own answer would have been, you never know what works with your own body chemistry until you give it the ol’ sweet spot testing, so I’m down. 🙂 And thx for the compliment, it’s greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/25 "2010-09-08T06:38:01Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > And I very much agree with you John. They are not. > > But if you are making the effort and have seen consistant success with certain mixes, yet one seems to be pinging the same results, isnt it safe to report that you think it sends a “friend zone” message? > > I realize I am bucking the trend here, but my impressions of this mx are not due to a lack of effort or inability to act on IOI’s. They are consistant in reactions I have seen. is it because [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) has a lot of rone and not enough anone? rone = friend zone? just like IG, hehe… anone = more than friends? Also, why did you mention MX150? Who knows though… Steve’s cougar mix is mysteryboy variation, yet it draws in cougars… can anyone explain that? Maybe, a whole bunch of -none and MB? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/26 "2010-09-08T06:46:30Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > And I very much agree with you John. They are not. > > But if you are making the effort and have seen consistant success with certain mixes, yet one seems to be pinging the same results, isnt it safe to report that you think it sends a “friend zone” message? > > I realize I am bucking the trend here, but my impressions of this mx are not due to a lack of effort or inability to act on IOI’s. They are consistant in reactions I have seen. Bucking the trend is great data, do you have more details to share? Very curious! ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/27 "2010-09-08T07:41:46Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > is it because MX297 has a lot of rone and not enough anone? rone = friend zone? just like IG, hehe… anone = more than friends? No, I do not believe that rone = friend zone. At all. I have never got that type of message from IG. A314 has been said to be 80% erone and I certainly dont get friend zone from that. Do I believe that 297 is has alot more erone than -none…yes. I do. > [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Also, why did you mention MX150? Because I have seen VERY close similairities in the 2. It would be awesome if there was still someone here who has tested the both of them so I didnt feel alone about this. > [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Who knows though… Steve’s cougar mix is mysteryboy variation, yet it draws in cougars… can anyone explain that? Maybe, a whole bunch of -none and MB? No, I cant. I wore MX316(RPTP) with [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) on several occasions and never saw the same hits that SteveO did. I also tried the MX and did not have much success with it at all. Young or mature. It was not a mix that favored me. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/28 "2010-09-08T08:31:28Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Bucking the trend is great data, do you have more details to share? Very curious! No problem. Im sure that we all can agree that certain mixes send certain messages. Right? We cannot assume that every person who buys this MX has the same social skill set. So some may not be able to take advantage of a mix that does not send a sexual message. Sure, some of us with the know how can take an IOI and lead it in a sexual direction. [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) does not seem to create a sexual tension to me. I do not get excessive hair flipping or direct sexual body language from this MX. Do I see Kino…yes. Kino in a sexual manner…no. “O my God your so sweet” kino…yes. “I want to run my nails down your back” kino…no. My point is, if you do not have the social skill set to take advantage of IOI’s…this MX sends a non take charge, good to have you around message. I stick by my “could land you in the friend zone” statement. John, what have you seen wearing this MX? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/29 "2010-09-08T09:32:24Z")
Hey Jess Actually some molecules can cause a feminine effect. I have tested TAH on lots of people not just with me wearing it but with others wearing it both male and female. Almost everyone reported that feminine vibe even the men. This doesn’t mean you should not get it though. Just like women use the heavy men’s mixes sometimes you can wear something more geared toward a female successfully. Just use masculine mones with it and use TAH to sort of steer those masculine mones. You may come up with a awesome combo Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/30 "2010-09-08T12:00:54Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Do I see Kino…yes. Kino in a sexual manner…no. “O my God your so sweet” kino…yes. “I want to run my nails down your back” kino…no. > > My point is, if you do not have the social skill set to take advantage of IOI’s…this MX sends a non take charge, good to have you around message. I stick by my “could land you in the friend zone” statement. > > John, what have you seen wearing this MX? I am glad I always wore it with Heavy AMMO 2 sprays onwards ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/31 "2010-09-08T12:34:28Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Steve did a 297 write up? Where is it hidding? > > EDIT: You were reffering to the one in his journal? Saw that one. Stick by my MX150 comment. Yep thats the one. Perhaps you can enlighten us newer folk and give a short MX150 vs [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) analysis 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/32 "2010-09-08T12:35:46Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > I do not get excessive hair flipping or direct sexual body language from this MX. Do I see Kino…yes. Kino in a sexual manner…no. “O my God your so sweet” kino…yes. “I want to run my nails down your back” kino…no. I"m starting to remember now the times I’ve used it that worked well was in conjunction with A314. Then I started adding putatives to it, then completely took it out of the mix and I had better results than when I used it as a standalone. I just went back on my journal and saw that it was the most successful when mixed with other products. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/33 "2010-09-08T12:39:13Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I"m starting to remember now the times I’ve used it that worked well was in conjunction with A314. Then I started adding putatives to it, then completely took it out of the mix and I had better results than when I used it as a standalone. I just went back on my journal and saw that it was the most successful when mixed with other products. SO P51 is on to something then. I’ll have to play with it some more and do a comparison. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/34 "2010-09-08T13:34:22Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hey Jess > > Actually some molecules can cause a feminine effect. I have tested TAH on lots of people not just with me wearing it but with others wearing it both male and female. > > Almost everyone reported that feminine vibe even the men. This doesn’t mean you should not get it though. Just like women use the heavy men’s mixes sometimes you can wear something more geared toward a female successfully. > > Just use masculine mones with it and use TAH to sort of steer those masculine mones. You may come up with a awesome combo > > Tisha Tisha, I agree with everything you say here. I have owned TAH for over a year now and find it to be a huge part of them there Hitman mixes i made. But I havnt said anything about TAH in this thread. The point im being forced to defend here is that I get a “welcome to the friend zone” vibe from [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/). Did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/35 "2010-09-08T14:43:24Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > so thereis a new variation of this? lol… Who knows? Maybe I have the BETTER, the more masculine, version 😃 Its MX390, non-akuto I believe its FF21 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/36 "2010-09-08T14:57:37Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Tisha, I agree with everything you say here. I have owned TAH for over a year now and find to be a huge part of them there Hitman mixes i made. But I havnt said anything about TAH in this thread. The point im being forced to defend here is that I get a “welcome to the friend zone” vibe from MX297. Did I miss something? I looked at some reports at standalones and this is what I got. > [@](#): > > I tried out two sprays of 297 last night. It was cooler temperatures out, I just sprayed two on either side of the neck, I try not to spray on the wrist when I wear long sleeves. The venue was an outdoor/indoor bar, more casual. So far I’ve gotten [IOI](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) 's but I still cannot pinpoint if they were cause of me or 297. I did notice more openess with females and closer proximity physical contact. As for males, more friendly, more willing to talk and it does make you seem like you’re an alpha in a sense but not so overbearing. I can tell that this mix will definitely work well in environments where it will help you make a lasting impression on whoever you made contact with. But at the same token > [@](#): > > It wasn’t until the end of the night that I was at the diner that I got something. My friend and I walk in to get our to go order and we were right by two good looking girls. I didn’t think anything of it, I wanted to get my food and leave. The one started a conversation with me, close proximity, a couple of brushes here and there. I was trying to blow her off cause I was really tired and just wasn’t in the mood. (It was a slow night, had to leave a place cause ppl started fighting and it got dangerous). SHe kept talking, asking questions. Now her bf (I’m guessing cause he got all possesive when he saw her talking to me) comes out and she is ignoring him and talking to me. Boggled my mind on how so. I was at the cashier paying, prolonged eye contact. I smiled and left As for the Androstenone theory, which I’m starting to think that there isn’t too much there was from this reaction. This could have definitely be something what Steve was pointing out, and now that I re read it, definitely beta behavior > [@](#): > > Another effect that I’ve noticed with higher exposure, by the end of the night I had a total of **5 sprays of MX297 throughout the night cause of the heat and the weather. My guess was that some of the buffers of MX297 wear away quicker than the -none because I was extremely extremely combative and argumentative throughout our meal at a local diner. It could be that -none is sticky** and the remainder of my first applications overwhelmed the buffers that were already on my body for application. Also since it was hotter out, any nols could have been converted into none at that point. I would also like to point out that I can’t determine whether the weather or the excessive sprays did it for me. I have to test it out independently while the weather is a little cooler here now than on the day I tested it. The trend seems to have a content of -erone but still some softening effects For research purposes here is one of the links > [@MX297 - Collective Reports](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-collective-reports/38527): > > Hey guys, I know a lot of us have wanted to get MX297 around more and more. Let’s try to keep it a little organized so we can compare notes with it and everything. I know there are so many posts about it but if we can consolidate we can probably narrow down and pinpoint the effects based on everyone else’s reports. This was mine so far on a different post. "I tried it yesterday when I got it at work, and when I tell you that clients and regular customers were acting differently around me, I K… As Radman said > [@](#): > > My effects have been fairly consistent imo. I get respect hits from men, but much friendlier and more familiar in nature. Not weaker than [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) , the hits were strong but different…more like [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) buffered with a heavy dose of Instant Shine. > And I got pretty consistent attraction hits from women. Not as sexual as [TuTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (I seem to actually get stronger reactions from [TuTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) ) but more like I’m seen as relationship material. When I wear [TuTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) I can see women getting flustered and blushing. 297 I didn’t get that, I did get giggles but I also got a lot of touchy feelies and even what I would describe as possessive and territorial tree pissing in the form of taking me by my arm as if to say “MINE!” Read also WildFlowers report, pretty insightful ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480/37 "2010-09-08T20:25:41Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Tisha, I agree with everything you say here. I have owned TAH for over a year now and find it to be a huge part of them there Hitman mixes i made. But I havnt said anything about TAH in this thread. The point im being forced to defend here is that I get a “welcome to the friend zone” vibe from MX297. Did I miss something? wanna share some ratios on those hit man mixes? 😉 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tah-is-in-stock-should-i-get-it-why-or-why-not/41480.md?page=1)