# TAK standalone report **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 12, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tak-standalone-report/15395 "2008-07-12T15:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TylerDurden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tylerdurden/32/2411_2.png) [@TylerDurden](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TylerDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tak-standalone-report/15395/1 "2008-07-12T15:13:19Z")
This experimone was reported to be a very good ice-breaker in less than 25 mcg doses. He and other users reported to experience tiredness and lack of energy using it above 25 mcg, incresing this effects as the dose was increased. Well, in my experience, the ice-breaking effect happens only below 20 mcg doses. I’m a happy owner of a 30 ml bottle with 10 mcg per spray and using 1-2 sprays it worked great as an ice-breaker under different circumstances. I must say that only 1 spray works greater on me than 2 sprays, but I think that the main effects happen on me, because I am not a very chatty guy, but when I used 1-2 sprays I experienced very much easier to let people como close to me, and not only in the conversation. When I used it in higher doses (20-100 mcg) I experienced a huge lack of energy, driving me into a really deep sleep, no matter the hour of the day. I find it particularly useful at this doses when I have something important the next morning and I have to get a good sleep. Usually anxiety would not allow me to get a good sleep, so I use it half an hour before I go to bed. I call it the hammer efect, because it is like if someone hits me with a hammer in my head. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tak-standalone-report/15395/2 "2008-07-12T19:48:24Z")
Cool, we need more results on TAK. Have you been trying it in combos? ---
**Author:** ![TylerDurden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tylerdurden/32/2411_2.png) [@TylerDurden](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TylerDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tak-standalone-report/15395/3 "2008-07-13T06:43:07Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > Cool, we need more results on TAK. Have you been trying it in combos? Not yet, but I think it could be really helpful for or with really shy guys/girls (like me) as an ice-breaker in social situations. Each one should find his sweet spot, mine seems to be somewhere around 10 mcgs. It worked great on me but I didn’t find this dose enough for the people around me. Anyway, lowing down my social barriers the whole dynamics changes spectacularly. As part of a combo it should work with any headed to get a social interaction, so i’m thinking about trying it with TUTH, MX203, A314, Instant openness and/or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tak-standalone-report/15395/4 "2008-07-13T18:36:33Z")
Yea, I’ve started working TAK into my ‘comfort’ or ‘social’ mixes myself. Also under or at 10 mcgs. I haven’t yet tried it with TUTH or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), but I have tried it with A314, and with IS/IH/IO with very mixed results. It definitely lowers barriers, but perhaps because it is inviting, or because of it’s ‘go with the flow’ group effects, it really changes the dynamics of the situation. I agree that TAK is somewhat of an ice-breaker in terms of its utility, though, I’m not sure how it breaks the ice. I feel like it sort of emits a familiar, sort of, I’ve known you for a while, kinda of fluidity. Where rather than specific stages of give and receive interactions, it’s more like a fluid, simultaneous, give and take situation.