# TAL and TAH self effects... whats your experience? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 30, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273 "2009-06-30T19:14:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/1 "2009-06-30T19:14:59Z")
when you guys wear TAH or TAL, what are you getting for self-effects? is it the same as being around a gal who is wearing it? (prolly not so much but..) ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/2 "2009-06-30T19:26:58Z")
Lor, I’m _just_ about to head out, so I will come back and give a more detailed reply once I have time tomorrow. I have TAL at 2.5mcg per spray. I’ve used it about 6 times now at that strength and each time it makes me feel really nice and feminine. I was actually very surprised to read that TAL makes some women, confident and more aggressive. To me it feels very soft and warm. If TAH is the softer of the two I can only imagine how that one would make me feel. I could imagine TAL on a girl would make me want to get close and squeeze her tight, it really does gives me lovey dubey feelings. Warm and Fuzzy. My voice was noticeably more effeminate. Slower and softer. I like how it made me feel, and in my head at the time the only word I could come up with to describe the feeling was ‘nice’. It just makes me feel nice, totally content in who I am, where I am and what I’m doing. Everything just feels nice. The self effects I get from TAL are just like what I’ve seen described as the effects of TAH 😕😕😕 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/3 "2009-06-30T19:30:43Z")
maybe there are gender differences in how these are percieved. you blew me away with your description, TAL is my female equivalent to 'none. i thought it might make guys ballsier too, but now im not so sure,lol. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/4 "2009-06-30T19:32:10Z")
I went through a togo of both TAL and TAH and didn’t feel a thing. Nuttin’. However I enjoyed the effect on my subjects and that’s all I care about. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/5 "2009-06-30T19:37:46Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I went through a togo of both TAL and TAH and didn’t feel a thing. Nuttin’. However I enjoyed the effect on my subjects and that’s all I care about. what dosing did you have,Gegogi? ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/6 "2009-06-30T22:07:12Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I went through a togo of both TAL and TAH and didn’t feel a thing. Nuttin’. However I enjoyed the effect on my subjects and that’s all I care about. So far, I also have not noticed too much in the way of self effects either. I’ve only just gotten them though. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/7 "2009-06-30T23:44:08Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > what dosing did you have,Gegogi? For both products I used the 5 ml, 200 mcg total [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), 5 mcg per spray togos. I tried various doses before I ran out, but found 6 or 7 sprays (30-35 mcg) to be about the least dose for obvious reactions. However even at twice that dose I didn’t notice any self-medication results. In fairness, I’ve only noted little or no self medication results for about 5 years. BAck in the day, NPA used to give me a real buzz. I did experience enhanced aural perception with TAF. Luckily weed and beer still works… ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/8 "2009-07-01T06:09:57Z")
> [@](#): > > In fairness, I’ve only noted little or no self medication results for about 5 years. BAck in the day, NPA used to give me a real buzz. I did experience enhanced aural perception with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) . Luckily weed and beer still works… what do you think is different in the last 5 years? thats is REALLY interesting to me. i would be really weirded out if TAF didnt affect you,lol. hallelujah to beer and weed 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/9 "2009-07-01T06:46:12Z")
I envy those people who have repeated self-effects from products - it’s like having a whole other benefit to [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) usage. I’m in the same boat as Gegogi - the first time I’m exposed to a new molecule I can feel effects, but thereafter I may as well have sprayed myself with water, no matter what the dose… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/10 "2009-07-01T08:17:32Z")
I have been able to maintain the self effects of most molecules but I have to admit its not as strong as when I first used them. The feeling is still there the newness of the feeling is just gone. I take days off from using mones and alternate what I wear to help maintain it but I have a much larger selection to chose from so its easier for me to do this. TAL and TAH is what they use in mens mixes to give it a feminine more sensitive emotional vibe. Depending on how much you use and what male mones you mix or layer it with you can get something like Mystery boy effect for gay men or the old romance series they sold here. Dosage is the key here just like when the ladies use the mens molecules. I think these two are great choices for guys who want to deepen a relationship or add some romance. You don’t need a lot, a very small dosage would do the trick so its cost effective to get. Even for guys just looking for a sexual encounter can benefit from these two molecules used with male mones. Romantic feelings can lead to sex. Of course she may stalk you after LOL j/k . ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/11 "2009-07-01T08:35:23Z")
I have documented all, in all my TAL reports, the self-effects I get in my journal. 🙂 I would sum it all up here if I could, but I figured you’d appreciate the detail. It’s very sensual… Here, I’ve already done the search 😛 `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=366840&pp=25` and… _Standalone reports_ > [@Domnk's Journal - Pheromone Treks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/28): > > I really enjoyed TAL, it gave me higher status socially, greater range of emotions, a sense of humility, and great responses from other guys wink… it’s funny, women barely seemed to notice me. Great first run! Here is my report! TAL Report – Test One TAL –Togo Bottle (5ml) Scent and strength [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), 12.5mcg Application dosage and locations Application Applied one spray to left wrist and rubbed it on the other and one spray to left wrist rubbed it on my other wrist and my neck (2 sprays) … [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/33](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/33) > [@Domnk's Journal - Pheromone Treks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/36): > > I tested out TAL again today in a typical, atypical social day stuck_out_tongue and I have to say, it really shouldn’t be used when running errands, or when just going out, without being buffered with some lighter products like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), because it is a very smooth relaxing product and adding stress to a relaxed state is very aggravating (all you really want to do, is just be slight_smile). I went shoe shopping (dress shoes), to an academic recognition for my high school (that was kind … > [@Domnk's Journal - Pheromone Treks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/38): > > Instead of mixing TAL with IShine, like I had planed, I upped the dosage when using it as a standalone roll_eyes Just one spray added, but the effects on others were amazing. Subtle still, but very pronounced none-the-less. Kindness in a bottle, indeed. I got alot of my hits from men today. wink Women I’m already friends with seemed nice, but female acquaintances, such as Sarah and Jennifer, showed social distancing slight_smile Fascinating. At one point I even started to fall into a par… By the way, TAL is my all-time favorite pheromone! 🙄 Dominick ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/12 "2009-07-01T14:21:00Z")
i get self-effects from everything. i am so sensitive, my mood is altered with just scent as well. if i use the same mix every day, i do notice the self-effects go away. i have to admit i wear alot of these just for me. i like how they can encourage different sides of me to surface and affect my relationships in this 2 way manner. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/13 "2009-07-01T14:36:55Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > I have documented all, in all my TAL reports, the self-effects I get in my journal. 🙂 I would sum it all up here if I could, but I figured you’d appreciate the detail. It’s very sensual… > > Here, I’ve already done the search 😛 > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=366840&pp=25` > > and… > _Standalone reports_ > > [Domnk's Journal - Pheromone Treks - #28 by Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/28) > [Domnk's Journal - Pheromone Treks - #33](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/33) > [Domnk's Journal - Pheromone Treks - #36 by Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/36) > [Domnk's Journal - Pheromone Treks - #38 by Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/domnks-journal-pheromone-treks/27394/38) > > By the way, > TAL is my all-time favorite pheromone! 🙄 > > Dominick - wow\*, Dom, your reports _rock_. i noticed on your better days you are wearing around 37.5mu of TAL. thats around what i find perfect too ( i do 40mu) im jealous though, i get LOTS of self-effects from TAL but yours are much more sensual than mine. im wondering if its the difference in our gender decides the self-effects. thats what its looking like. thanks so much for sharing. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/14 "2009-07-01T15:37:21Z")
> [@](#): > > im wondering if its the difference in our gender decides the self-effects. > thats what its looking like. I wonder to. It would make sense since they say women are more sensitive and in tune with there emotions. This may be why we feel more of the self effects then the men ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-tah-self-effects-whats-your-experience/30273/15 "2009-07-01T21:06:28Z")
Thank you very much 😃, I enjoy writing them 🙂 I do really like 37.5mu better, really powerful reactions from others. I’m not sure why either, but, I have always been very self aware. And, the smallest possible doses of something can translate into an overdose for me (pharmaceuticals). I think I’m just chemically and emotionally sensitive 😛🙄 And don’t be jealous, it’s a gift and a curse, conventional medicine really messes me up, so as you can imagine, being treated for something is nearly impossible. Dominick > [@Lor](#): > > - wow\*, Dom, your reports _rock_. > > i noticed on your better days you are wearing around 37.5mu of TAL. > thats around what i find perfect too ( i do 40mu) > > im jealous though, > i get LOTS of self-effects from TAL but yours are much more sensual than mine. > > im wondering if its the difference in our gender decides the self-effects. > thats what its looking like. > > thanks so much for sharing.