# Talk of the Stalk **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [December 18, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939 "2009-12-18T16:18:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![charrchr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charrchr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charrchr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/1 "2009-12-18T16:18:54Z")
I read online recently that celery has lots of androstenone. Would a steady diet of celery help pump up your [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) level, hence make you more attractive to the opposite sex? I have now integrated it into my diet to see!! ---
**Author:** ![Beccah1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/beccah1/32/2380_2.png) [@Beccah1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Beccah1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/2 "2009-12-18T18:34:04Z")
Where did you read that? ---
**Author:** ![charrchr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charrchr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charrchr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/3 "2009-12-18T22:50:55Z")
I think is was a Men’s Health website. I looked at a couple of websites on the composition of celery, and it says that it does contain androstenone in it’s chemical makeup. Check out this Wikipedia link under the nutrition section and another link or just google celery and [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). It also has the potential of sperm count increase: > **[Celery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celery)** > > Celery (Apium graveolens Dulce Group or Apium graveolens var. dulce) is a cultivated plant belonging to the species Apium graveolens in the family Apiaceae that has been used as a vegetable since ancient times. The original wild species has been selectively bred over centuries into three primary cultivar groups: stalk celery (Dulce Group), consumed for its fibrous edible stalks; leaf celery (Secalinum Group), grown for its aromatic leaves; and celeriac (Rapaceum Group), cultivated for its large, ... [Celery Pheromones - Aphrodisiac Effects of Celery](http://www.shapefit.com/celery-pheromones.html) > [@Beccah1](#): > > Where did you read that? ---
**Author:** ![donjorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@donjorge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/donjorge)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/4 "2010-02-23T19:59:21Z")
Anyone experiment with this extensively? For awhile I ate a bowl of celery everyday and I noticed that my natural smell was most definitely much stronger and muskier. But I don’t remember what else it did. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/5 "2010-03-04T04:44:31Z")
I’ve wondered about this myself. I assume it’s true but that brings up two very important questions. First, could the none survive the harsh environment of the digestive system to be delivered to the skin for diffusion? And secondly assuming the answer to the first question is yes, while it’s pretty obvious that one or even two sticks contain negligible amounts, could the effects be cumulative? IE while eating one or two sticks today might not create any noticeable effect, could eating a couple of sticks a day every day over time create a buildup that causes more marked gains? ---
**Author:** ![johnny\_blaze79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@johnny\_blaze79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny_blaze79)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/6 "2010-03-10T00:01:11Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > And secondly assuming the answer to the first question is yes, while it’s pretty obvious that one or even two sticks contain negligible amounts, could the effects be cumulative? IE while eating one or two sticks today might not create any noticeable effect, could eating a couple of sticks a day every day over time create a buildup that causes more marked gains? I think it does. Recently I ate two stalks for lunch, and two for dinner, totalling 4 a day. And I gotta say after about 6 weeks or so I’d get the same kind of looks as if I were wearing some A314 and/or IJ. I felt great and women were more flirtatious in general. Then came the holidays and I kinda fell of my diet, but in my experience celery overtime, eaten consistently does produce great results. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 11:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/7 "2010-03-11T11:05:09Z")
Yes celery will increase your testosterone levels which in turn should increase pheromone output but you would have to eat at least one to two whole bunches a day. **Not stalks… bunches**. Usually one bunch comes in a bag so you would have to eat 1 to 2 bags a day. That’s a lot of celery for most people. You could buy a juicer and make a juice using a whole bunch of celery and this way you get your allotted amount without having to chew on it all day. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/8 "2010-03-14T15:18:37Z")
You could also workout. That would raise testosterone levels as well. Plus you would be healthier and look better. You could also incorporate celery into your diet. A double bonus! ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/9 "2010-03-17T01:16:15Z")
Tisha, if you ate two bunches per day, you’d be “regular” as clockwork too! You don’t get that fibre if you juice it! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/10 "2010-03-17T02:46:17Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > Tisha, if you ate two bunches per day, you’d be “regular” as clockwork too! You don’t get that fibre if you juice it! No you dont get the fiber when juicing. I combine juicing with actually eating organic vegetables and whole grains for fiber. Really to get the desired nutrients from vegetables in your diet you need to eat way more then the 5 servings suggested. Farming soil has been depleted of its natural mineral content from years of over use and mass production. If there is no minerals in your soil there is no minerals in your veggies. In the “olden days” farmers would rotate there fields and crops to avoid this. Some small organic farmers still do but more of the big farms could care less. As a result many vegetables that the average American consumes have 50% to 80% less vitamin and mineral content as the vegetables your grandparents ate. Not to mention all the pesticides that are poisoning your body slowly over time. If you eat them canned …well I wouldn’t even bother to eat them canned. There is virtually no mineral content in them. Frozen is better but not by much. I cant afford to buy all organic myself but I try and usually the ones I dont buy organic are on the safe list meaning they have a peel or tougher skin so less pesticides get in. In the summer I go home to the farm and pick most my stuff there and I have my own garden as well. During the summer I juice less because I know the soil my veggies are coming from is not depleted. In the winter there is no way I can eat that much fiber and not be in the bathroom all day so I juice more. I Love it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![johnny\_blaze79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@johnny\_blaze79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny_blaze79)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/11 "2010-03-20T14:33:25Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Yes celery will increase your testosterone levels which in turn should increase pheromone output but you would have to eat at least one to two whole bunches a day. **Not stalks… bunches**. > Tisha I’d respectfully disagree a bit, in my experience eating only 4 stalks a day (2 for lunch, 2 for dinner), consistantly for weeks is sufficient. From what I’ve seen with my body, it’s not about how much I stuff in my mouth, it’s more about can I do it day after day. After 6 solid weeks of eating celery & cucumbers, I noticed; 1. my skin complexion was better, and no breakouts 2. felt stronger in weight room 3. got the kinds of reaction I’d normally see when having mones w/ plenty of rone and none (i.e. A314, IJ) I think as w/ anything, if u eat a clean diet, and work out consistently, it will really pay off…You will see a lot better results this way than let’s say eating 2 bunches a day for a week. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/12 "2010-03-20T19:41:06Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > No you dont get the fiber when juicing. I combine juicing with actually eating organic vegetables and whole grains for fiber. > > Really to get the desired nutrients from vegetables in your diet you need to eat way more then the 5 servings suggested. Farming soil has been depleted of its natural mineral content from years of over use and mass production. If there is no minerals in your soil there is no minerals in your veggies. In the “olden days” farmers would rotate there fields and crops to avoid this. Some small organic farmers still do but more of the big farms could care less. As a result many vegetables that the average American consumes have 50% to 80% less vitamin and mineral content as the vegetables your grandparents ate. Not to mention all the pesticides that are poisoning your body slowly over time. > > If you eat them canned …well I wouldn’t even bother to eat them canned. There is virtually no mineral content in them. Frozen is better but not by much. I cant afford to buy all organic myself but I try and usually the ones I dont buy organic are on the safe list meaning they have a peel or tougher skin so less pesticides get in. In the summer I go home to the farm and pick most my stuff there and I have my own garden as well. During the summer I juice less because I know the soil my veggies are coming from is not depleted. In the winter there is no way I can eat that much fiber and not be in the bathroom all day so I juice more. I Love it. > > Tisha A little off topic, but since you do your own gardening you might want to try adding some basalt rock dust to your garden. Assuming your soil is biologically active (earthworms and healthy soil microbes) it does a good job of replenishing minerals and trace elements to the soil for the plant to absorb. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/13 "2010-03-21T15:40:41Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d respectfully disagree a bit, in my experience eating only 4 stalks a day (2 for lunch, 2 for dinner), consistantly for weeks is sufficient. From what I’ve seen with my body, it’s not about how much I stuff in my mouth, it’s more about can I do it day after day. After 6 solid weeks of eating celery & cucumbers, I noticed; Your not really disagreeing with me. I didnt do the research on it but its been scientifically proven just ask any nutritionist or look it up in the journals. Many sites take info from these studies and blow them all out of proportion on there web sites which just leads to misinformation really. So while celery does increase testosterone you need to eat a lot to see that or you can take celery seed oil which is what doctors suggest because they know people can not eat enough celery to make a difference. Your right you would also have to be really consistent about it. > [@](#): > > 1. my skin complexion was better, and no breakouts Its the cucumbers not the celery that does this. Cucumbers contain ascorbic acid and caffeic acid, both of which help soothe skin irritations and reduce swelling as well as silica to clear skin. > [@](#): > > 1. felt stronger in weight room This could be simply because your conscious of eating better or a placebo effect. Or all that working out is paying off and you in fact stronger. Give yourself some credit here to. > [@](#): > > 1. got the kinds of reaction I’d normally see when having mones w/ plenty of rone and none (i.e. A314, IJ) Rone and A1 comes from testosterone. Its more likely your muscle mass is improving from time spent in the gym and this in turn will make you produce more Testosterone. Celery is good for you and it can do some amazing things but really using celery alone to raise your testosterone level biologically makes a insignificant difference. I think its the combination of all your doing that is showing the overall improvement you have noticed. I think you should keep eating it but maybe look into juicing as well then a few times a week make a juice using cucumbers Kale celery and a fruit of your choice to sweeten it and make it taste better. Just be sure to drink it right away because juicing breaks the enzymes down so it loses nutritional value quicker. > [@](#): > > A little off topic, but since you do your own gardening you might want to try adding some basalt rock dust to your garden. Assuming your soil is biologically active (earthworms and healthy soil microbes) it does a good job of replenishing minerals and trace elements to the soil for the plant to absorb. Thank you radman I will look into that. My soil is pretty good. I do a lot of composting all year which helps and I rotate my garden around every year. Its good to have alternatives though because I want to have a bigger garden this year. I also have to figure out how to keep the damn woodchuck out. Last year I planted him his own garden right outside his little nest and he still raided mine. LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![donjorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@donjorge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/donjorge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/14 "2010-03-24T08:55:41Z")
When I did experiment with celery, I was eating ridiculous amounts. It was several big bowlfuls a day, and it made a huge impact on my body scent, but I never took note of how it affected my interactions with people. I wonder if there is a way to isolate the androstenone from celery and concentrate it… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/15 "2010-03-24T09:36:03Z")
> [@](#): > > When I did experiment with celery, I was eating ridiculous amounts. It was several big bowlfuls a day, and it made a huge impact on my body scent, but I never took note of how it affected my interactions with people. I wonder if there is a way to isolate the [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) from celery and concentrate it… > > \*\ ***Androstenone** \*\* > > Androste **none** is a highly popular pheromone used mostly in men’s products. > > It tends to create extreme responses when used in public – love or hate, lust or distrust. You get much better responses when used on women who are “ready for love” (in a sexual sense, i.e., ovulating). > > Best used at bars, clubs, or on later dates when you want to “Turn up the heat” (increasing sexual tension). > > **Important:** You should avoid high concentration androstenone products if people tend to perceive you as intimidating, or as someone that “comes on too strong”. In a way thats what your doing when you juice it. You can down 3 to 4 bunches of celery a day in one 4 to 6 oz glass full. Remember celery is high in salt to for those watching salt intake. I am sure there are other more scientific ways but they would be costly. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Logos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aeb1de/32.png) [@Logos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Logos)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/16 "2012-03-13T23:27:59Z")
Ideally you would use di-ethyl ether to extract the more lipophilic portions from the celery juice, then evaporate off the ether. The problem isn’t the cost so much as the difficulty getting one’s hands on the stuff… as well as saftey concerns. The stuff is remarkably flamable and also a little toxic. But in a pinch, I’m thinking that you could mix in some grapeseed oil when you blended the juice and then collect that off the top. The stuff you’d want to collect would probably be more oil soluable than water soluable, so this would be one way to leave stuff like sugars behind. I’m currently testing this out in my spare time, but with cucumber seeds. I’m not sure the oil extraction is really all that necessecary, though. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/17 "2012-03-14T11:39:09Z")
I’ve been eating celery and celery root nearly everyday now for a couple of years. Where I used to be able to wear 7 or 8 sprays of TUTH, after my celery supplementation I can now only wear a couple. I would say yes, it definitely increases enone production. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBeGoode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecccb3/32.png) [@JohnBeGoode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnBeGoode)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/18 "2012-03-15T02:58:06Z")
Tisha **“That’s a lot of celery for most people. You could buy a juicer and make a juice using a whole bunch of celery and this way you get your allotted amount without having to chew on it all day.”** What a wonderful idea Tisha!.. 🙂 ty ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/19 "2012-03-15T12:08:05Z")
> [@JohnBeGoode](#): > > Tisha **“That’s a lot of celery for most people. You could buy a juicer and make a juice using a whole bunch of celery and this way you get your allotted amount without having to chew on it all day.”** What a wonderful idea Tisha!.. 🙂 ty You should get a Breville if you can. GREAT juicer and worth every penny 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnBeGoode](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecccb3/32.png) [@JohnBeGoode](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnBeGoode)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939/20 "2012-03-15T14:34:41Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > **“That’s a lot of celery for most people. You could buy a juicer and make a juice using a whole bunch of celery and this way you get your allotted amount without having to chew on it all day.”** > > What a wonderful idea Tisha!.. 🙂 ty You should get a Breville if you can. GREAT juicer and worth every penny 🙂 Hey Steve, that’s another wonderful idea! 🙂 Thanks for mentioning it. I was just checking these things out on amazon. Fantabulous looking machines! Just might order one. Which model do you have? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939.md?page=2)