# Tater needs help with gorgeous redhead

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 14, 2007, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012 "2007-10-14T07:24:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![trevrep](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trevrep/32/1417_2.png) [@trevrep](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/trevrep)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/41 "2007-10-15T06:59:45Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> At one point she mentioned that her boyfriend would like me and i should join her for her familys Christmas party when im in Germany. I pretended to be unaffected by the -boyfriend- line.

just a boyfriend right? she didn’t say fiance, or husband.  
I think you still have a shot man.

If you want something badly enough, or if you truly think she’s the one, then the universe will conspire in a way to give you what you want. u just have to want it more than others wanting the same thing.

at least she told you first, for me i saw them infront of me, holding hands n sht, can’t remember if i ate my dinner through my mouth or snorted it. life’s a biatch…

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/42 "2007-10-15T07:06:19Z")

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> [@trevrep](#):
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> just a boyfriend right? she didn’t say fiance, or husband.  
> I think you still have a shot man.
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> If you want something badly enough, or if you truly think she’s the one, then the universe will conspire in a way to give you what you want. u just have to want it more than others wanting the same thing.
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> at least she told you first, for me i saw them infront of me, holding hands n sht, can’t remember if i ate my dinner through my mouth or snorted it. life’s a biatch…

Yeah, she did say boyfriend. I was thinking maybe she was telling me that to let me know what im up against, not to get me to back off. Tater doesnt believe in stealing peoples wives or girlfriends. If i know a woman is married or spoken for, i wont even do anything questionable.

And i understand about eating your dinner. Theres a reason why they call it comfort food. After hearing that i didnt want any more shrimp, i wanted a full belly and a warm blanket.

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/43 "2007-10-15T07:12:06Z")

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Tater is one smooth customer very nice! Sounds like he has a good friend too.

Well is she going to Germany soon?

Dont know what Taters ethics about boyfriends are but it sounds like he’s out of the way at the moment.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/44 "2007-10-15T07:29:15Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Tater is one smooth customer very nice! Sounds like he has a good friend too.
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> Well is she going to Germany soon?
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> Dont know what Taters ethics about boyfriends are but it sounds like he’s out of the way at the moment.

She lives in Belgium which is where shes heading. Tater doesnt break up relationships for his own benefit, no matter how tempting.

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**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/45 "2007-10-15T07:29:20Z")

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Tater he’s just a BF. She’s probably gonna dump him anyway. Or the other way around. Are you not a way cooler dude than this guy could possibly be? Think about the great times you and she could have together. The way you could make her feel so good like no other person could. You shouldn’t make excuses for not pursuing that which you desire. You are a man.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/46 "2007-10-15T07:33:25Z")

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> [@gitsmw](#):
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> Tater he’s just a BF. She’s probably gonna dump him anyway. Or the other way around. Are you not a way cooler dude than this guy could possibly be? Think about the great times you and she could have together. The way you could make her feel so good like no other person could. You shouldn’t make excuses for not pursuing that which you desire. You are a man.

I appreciate the comment, but i just cant play that way. If they break up on their own, Tater will tap that in a second, but where i come from, we shoot rabid dogs and i dont want to be one. If shes interested, she has to woman up and at least be available.

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**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/47 "2007-10-15T07:35:10Z")

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do onto others… 🙂

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/48 "2007-10-15T07:35:18Z")

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Ok Tater is a man of ethics and i gotta respect that.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/49 "2007-10-15T07:39:18Z")

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> [@jojobiz](#):
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> do onto others… 🙂

Yeah, which is totally different from do others before they do you or your girlfriend. 😉

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**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/50 "2007-10-15T08:53:08Z")

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Hmm . . . interesting situation. I was in a similar situation about 1-2 years ago. Best of luck man. From one gentleman to another, I salute your gentlemanly conduct.

-SwingerMD

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/51 "2007-10-15T11:04:40Z")

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I don’t care for the idea of breaking up relationships either, but in any other environment (i.e. club, coffee shop, etc.) the boyfriend line could just simply be what’s referred to as a “shit test”.

Still, glad you had fun. Greasing up wingmen is always a good idea, btw. 😉

-D4

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/52 "2007-10-15T11:31:37Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> She lives in Belgium which is where shes heading. Tater doesnt break up relationships for his own benefit, no matter how tempting.

I like your sense of honour, Tater.  
If she isn’t happy with him, she can break up with him first…  
Cause if she flirts with you etc while she’s with her bf, she could one day do the same to you when after she breaks up and you become her bf, which I’m sure you wouldn’t like.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/53 "2007-10-15T11:32:06Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> I don’t care for the idea of breaking up relationships either, but in any other environment (i.e. club, coffee shop, etc.) the boyfriend line could just simply be what’s referred to as a “shit test”.

It could be. Or it could be a real one.. who knows.

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/54 "2007-10-15T13:02:22Z")

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Am I the only guy who thinks going to the party did a lot of help? You were given the chance to see her again, and you should take it.

Oh! And it’s with her family! Impress the family and they might just do the work for you.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/55 "2007-10-15T13:09:41Z")

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> [@changazn](#):
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> Am I the only guy who thinks going to the party did a lot of help? You were given the chance to see her again, and you should take it.
> 
> Oh! And it’s with her family! Impress the family and they might just do the work for you.

You never know what might happen..

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/56 "2007-10-15T22:55:57Z")

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I agree with yah Tater. Yeah this is coming from a full on lair certified PUA. Regardless I never mess up a relationship. Sure there are times when a girl will tell me she has a BF, and I’ll plow forward. As soon as I find out BF is for real it’s friend zone. Never hurts having HB’s as friends.

I can’t believe SwingerMD came out for this post. I’m amazed and happy. I just love reading his posts. Any new person wants to get knowledge read SwingerMD posts. Holly WOW!

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/57 "2007-10-16T01:54:39Z")

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Ok while i do admire Taters ethics in this situation and i would do the same if i “knew” the boyfriend was for real.There is also the possibility there is no real “boyfriend” at all or maybe she just has some .uck buddy she calls a boyfriend.

How much do you like her Tater?  
It could be worth sticking around and finding out the truth.

My whole life iv never cheated or made a play for a girl once i hear she has a bf.Mostly because id hate to be cheated on myself.

Lately however in my present LTR she had a lover when i met her though once she met me she immediately ended it with the other guy mostly because she valued the connection she had with me but also because it highlighted everything that was missing between them.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/58 "2007-10-16T02:02:57Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Lately however in my present LTR she had a lover when i met her though once she met me she immediately ended it with the other guy mostly because she valued the connection she had with me but also because it highlighted everything that was missing between them.

Some people stay in relationships just so they won’t be alone. If they love each other making pass won’t hurt anything. If she’s ready to leave, but just waiting for the right time or person to get her out of it and you don’t try you will have missed the oportunity.

A girl I know, always has a boyfriend. She finds a new guy before she leaves the old one. That’s just how she operates.

Who’s to say your redheaded vixen isn’t the same?🆒

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/59 "2007-10-16T02:36:40Z")

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Very well expressed!

Some good points Toilofday 😉

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012/60 "2007-10-16T04:13:13Z")

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> [@changazn](#):
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> Am I the only guy who thinks going to the party did a lot of help? You were given the chance to see her again, and you should take it.
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> Oh! And it’s with her family! Impress the family and they might just do the work for you.

Last time Tater checked, being good friends with a womans parents is a guaranteed way to get her to think of you as a nice guy, but not one she wants to explore the finer details of her sexual passions with.

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