# tee hee hee....MEO-EST made me do it! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 2, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179 "2006-03-02T16:59:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![burgerama1960](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@burgerama1960](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/burgerama1960)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/21 "2006-04-06T18:31:08Z")
I just recieved my 50mcg meo-est today. I could not wait to try out a blast. So one blast it was. Instant phero buzz located between my temples! So far after about an hour I seem to be more alert and “focused”. It is an interesting feeling to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![burgerama1960](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@burgerama1960](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/burgerama1960)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/22 "2006-04-06T21:06:16Z")
Now after a couple of hours I have cleaned the grout in our kitchen floor, snaked out the tub drain,cleaned the windows, and washed the car. And my significant other has joined in the fun and started the official “spring cleaning”! Now I must figure out what would go together with this, the fun begins!🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/23 "2006-04-08T19:03:54Z")
!!! MEO induced spring cleaning! Unbelievable. 😮 You too, burgerama? Was this just straight MEO or were there other factors or mones at work in the mix? I haven’t had the opportunity to touch the stuff for a whiiiile (you can tell by how disorganized my house gets 😉😉 haha). For cleaning the house, if not worn alone, I usually pair it with a healthy dose of TAF. Other times I spritz a spray or two (I have 10 mcg) in my daily mix as a wildcard, since I still don’t have a grip on all its effects yet. It hasn’t reared me any real negative results yet. ---
**Author:** ![noblelady](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noblelady/32/2391_2.png) [@noblelady](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/noblelady)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/24 "2006-10-02T13:41:35Z")
LOLOLOLOL Tacitus! \>hugs him\< 😛 btw… \*can this be used with **recalcitrant teens?** 😃😃 😃 \* and, on a serious note, is it specific to one gender or another? > [@tacitus](#): > > Got a good shnort of high concentration MEO-EST this a.m… great googly moogly this ain’t granny’s lavender water… > > I am JOLTED into a massive need to neaten everything in sight… I had this experience to a lesser degree with regular strength… there IS a nest cleaning instinct hardwired into us, even the most sloven of men, and this molecule IS the Start Button… > > I am having a dual consciousness moment… where everything in the room presently is, and where it should be, and there is an IMPERATIVE sense that things should be moved from where they are to where they should be. It was NOT the pinpoint focus of TAF, none of that dopamine hone to it… now it totally get, at the hormonal, sex differentiated level, what women are organically experiencing when the go into housecleaning mode. > > Use it for sex ???.. ummmmm… “put it THERE, no, exactly there, now go faster, no not that fast, no not that slow, but harder, I mean, be gentle but do it harder, ok, but with a little backbeat on it, no, no, go fast until you’re halfway in, then slow down, THEN go harder the pull it out softly until you’re 2/3 of the way out then stop for three seconds, go back in a third at medium speed, then pull back and take a breath, no don’t GASP, I need to hear you SIGH…” > 🆒 🆒 🆒 > Puleeeeze ! ---
**Author:** ![mbakron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mbakron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mbakron)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/25 "2006-10-05T04:37:51Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > Got a good shnort of high concentration MEO-EST this a.m… great googly moogly this ain’t granny’s lavender water… > > I am JOLTED into a massive need to neaten everything in sight… I had this experience to a lesser degree with regular strength… there IS a nest cleaning instinct hardwired into us, even the most sloven of men, and this molecule IS the Start Button… > > I am having a dual consciousness moment… where everything in the room presently is, and where it should be, and there is an IMPERATIVE sense that things should be moved from where they are to where they should be. It was NOT the pinpoint focus of TAF, none of that dopamine hone to it… now it totally get, at the hormonal, sex differentiated level, what women are organically experiencing when the go into housecleaning mode. > > Use it for sex ???.. ummmmm… “put it THERE, no, exactly there, now go faster, no not that fast, no not that slow, but harder, I mean, be gentle but do it harder, ok, but with a little backbeat on it, no, no, go fast until you’re halfway in, then slow down, THEN go harder the pull it out softly until you’re 2/3 of the way out then stop for three seconds, go back in a third at medium speed, then pull back and take a breath, no don’t GASP, I need to hear you SIGH…” > 🆒 🆒 🆒 > Puleeeeze ! I hear that women get a strong urge to clean when ovulating. I also hear that women are most strongly affected by none when ovulating. Maybe try the two together… I think you can see where I’m going with this! ---
**Author:** ![live4themusic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/live4themusic/32/1996_2.png) [@live4themusic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/live4themusic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/26 "2006-10-05T06:37:08Z")
> [@mbakron](#): > > I hear that women get a strong urge to clean when ovulating. I also hear that women are most strongly affected by none when ovulating. Maybe try the two together… I think you can see where I’m going with this! You have the right idea mbakron! Take a girl home for a ons AND get her to tidy up your place once you’re done with her 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/27 "2006-10-05T11:46:08Z")
Androtics could make special air freshener packages from dorms and frat houses… ? ---
**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/28 "2007-02-19T22:02:13Z")
> [@live4themusic](#): > > You have the right idea mbakron! Take a girl home for a ons AND get her to tidy up your place once you’re done with her 😛 Oh, I thought you mean she’d give you a bath/ join you in the shower 😃 Cheers, 🆒 Quicksilver ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/29 "2008-05-26T05:38:21Z")
Back in December and January I did some experimenting with MEO-EST. I have trouble coming to any conclusion about what MEO-EST does, but I took minute by minute notes about what I was experiencing. It definitely does something! I apologize for not reporting my results sooner, but stuff was happening in my life. These experiments were inspired by Jasmin’s hypothesis that MEO-EST invokes a nest cleaning instinct. Here’s the raw data - MEO-EST Sunday Dec 16, 2007 up about 1:00 pm coffee, eggs, pancakes 1:27 pm two sprays in the face of TOGO MEO-EST (2.5 mcg/ spray) No other pheromones. Intent: Wrap Xmas presents, clean room, write letters. 2:40 pm I’m getting things done, but I’ve got a headache. 2:52 pm Somewhat obsessed with thought of a female friend & unhappy, discouraged. 3:02 pm Heartache. Double Espresso. Another spray MEO-EST. 3:08 pm lying down, hurting. sobbing. 3:12 wrapping presents, again 3:18 sense of calm 3:32 pm I’m composing letters in my head. Adding two sprays IH. And one more spray MEO-EST. 3:53 pm I still don’t know what to write. I’m thinking more and getting less done with the addition of IH. I am disinclined right now to see MEO-EST as nest cleaning, though perhaps it enhances nest cleaning if already invoked. Perhaps now I am brain cleaning. 4:12 lying down again. gift wrapping done. 4:45 Nausious, head ache. God, I hate that IH smell [normally I like it]. Lying down, awake, mind racing. 5:45 Feeling relatively, normal. Going to dinner. MEO-EST Monday Dec 24, 2007 Intention - determine 2007 tax liability, clean room 1:26 pm two sprays MEO-EST togo on chest under light shirt, strong coffee 1:29 a little light headed 1:32 I think it does seem to be focusing me somewhat. Less distractable from what I’m doing which is cleaning off my desk. 2:19 Focus really stalling out. Mind wandering all over. 2:20 Another spray MEO-EST, 10 mg pregnenolone [for alertness] 2:23 50 mg dilantin [for focus] 2:29 feeling sad. 2:30 Very mild sense of disorientation. 2:50 Clumsy. 2:56 - 3:15 Thinking about relationships. Writing. 3:34 Coffee, I&C 3:35 Another spray MEO-EST w/ one spray Fem Magic. 3:58 I like this, focused, less distracted (by the bitch in my head?). It seems that 4:18 Calm, maybe a little tired. 4:31 A little spacy. 4:35 Spacy to the point of being sleepy. (I got at least 10 hours sleep last night and I’ mon my second cup of strong coffee since 1:26). Way too calm for so much caffeine. 4:54 Well, I have gotten my desk cleaned off. Lots of stuff filed away or shredded, the flickering light over my desk fixed. Maybe MEO-EST is nest cleaning. My desk has been stacking up for more than ten weeks. But it is more complex than nest cleaning, for sure. The Fem Magic made a big difference. MEO-EST Monday Januray 14 intention: clean up office, do filing 11:30 am 3 sprays MEO-EST 11:57 Focused and energized. No way I’m gonna just lie around and do nothing this morning. I seem to need to be active. It would be difficult to just read for any length of time even if it was material which was important to what I was trying to get done. 12:11 This is a wary uncomfortable feeling. I don’t like MEO-EST by itself. 12:15 A314, two drops, old formula 12:20 - 12:30 lying down, feeling bad 12:45 Took old stereo that I’ve been falling over out to the dumpster. 12:58 Feeling miserable. 1:00 Two sprays IFM. One more spray MEO-EST. 1:39 Feelimg much better after IFM. Making progress filing papersand cleaning desk. 1:49 Feeling a little sick at my stomach. 2:45 Still making progress with the work I intended to do, but there are interruptions which are un usually annoying. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/30 "2008-05-26T09:50:02Z")
So, what are we talkin’ 'bout, here? Feng Shui in a bottle? 😃 -D4 ---
**Author:** ![jonno101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jonno101/32/367_2.png) [@jonno101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonno101)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/31 "2008-05-26T21:38:16Z")
Warren - nice report - Rep Points for you. I see you use pregnenolone - I’ve just started using it for a high cortisol issue (see ‘[women prefer the odors of men with high cortisol levels post](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-did-women-prefer-the-odors-of-men-who-had-high-cortisol-level/873)’) Does it give you headaches? I had to back off after just 3 days. I was aiming to run a more informal/anecdotal experiement to see if my natural phero signature went down if/when I reduce my high cortisol levels wafter using pregnenolone. Anyway, back tot he thread - I’m gonna dig out my bottle of MEO-EST and get sniffin tomorrow morning. Will report back 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/32 "2008-05-27T02:11:49Z")
jonno101 - I only do 30 mg of pregnenolone. When I started some years ago I only did 10 mg and I would usually break them in half. As I recall that would sometimes give me quite a buzz. I find it is good for alertness. It tends to direct my attention outward (as opposed to DHEA which tends to direct my attention inward). So I will tend to do my preg early in the day. But if I do it too early I can get just a little too rarin’ to go to be able to comfortably shave my face and tie a tie! I don’t remember ever getting a headache. Pregnenolone was at one time used, with some success, to treat arthritis so it would seem to have anit-inflamitory properties. I’m guessing this is a tension headache sort of thing? I would say cut way back and build up very gradually. Of course, I’m not a doctor – just weird little geek who keeps messing with his own psychology and biochemistry. Phosphatidyl Serine is supposed to reduce cortisol. I read 100mg twice a day for a month and then cut back to once a day. It is supposed to have smart drug properties. I got some very weird altered consciousness type experiences the first couple of times I did it. Now I do not notice anything. I guess those neural membranes are done getting rejuvenated. I still do 100mg twice a day. Glucophage (metformin) is supposed to increase cortisol sensitivity as well as insulin sensitivity. It might be quite effective in reducing cortisol. Of course you need a prescription – or order it from overseas. Cortisol is supposed to be about stress isn’t it. You probably just need to get drunk more often. (joke) Thanks for the rep points. Let me know if you reach any definite conclusions about MEO-EST. I cannot figuer what it does. I’ve got a little left, which I will save until I have a more coherent hypothesis to test. Maybe it is feng shui in a bottle – I don’t knows what that means either! For me, it is more complex than just nest cleaning. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/33 "2008-05-27T02:46:58Z")
Does MEO-EST make you obsessive compulsive? It sure sounds like it to me. Perhaps it doesn’t have the whole “negative affect” thing going on, though. Perhaps it gives you an “obesessive” edge. I want to try some really “edgey” stuff, something different. Just not sure what. Really the basic “Instant” stuff is great. Any suggestions for generalized [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) that tend to make people more open and trusting (not necessarily obedient)? ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/34 "2008-05-27T03:11:32Z")
when i experimented with meo-est by itself i got no self effects at all, or even help with effects of targets here is my thread [MEO-EST report & Pick-up Chillax sexy mofo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-report-pick-up-chillax-sexy-mofo/50764) I found later on with idle help it is best to pair with others like TAC seems to work great and others then you see better results by itself i have yet to find a use for it it is really hard to pin down exactly the use of meo-est ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/35 "2008-05-27T18:23:24Z")
Daedelus - It didn’t feel obsessive compulsive. I didn’t make me feel particularly happy. I did get more “nest cleaning” done than I otherwise would have, but there was other weird stuff going on emotionally. Re-reading my notes, I was obviously feeling tired (depressed?) and spacy during most of the experiments – and it was on three different days so that wouldn’t seem to be coincidental. > [@Daedelus76](#): > > I want to try some really “edgey” stuff, something different. Just not sure what. Really the basic “Instant” stuff is great. Any suggestions for generalized social pheromones that tend to make people more open and trusting (not necessarily obedient)? [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty are the obvious choices. I assume you have tried them. I like Instant Honesty a lot. I would like to find something that creates an even deeper emotional openness and vulnerability. One of the male writers [It might have been Tater, but I can’t find the post] described TAH as making a woman (and oneself) open and vulnerable in a sixeenish, kittenish way. He said you have to be careful to be gentle. I wish I could find that post… Most of the TAH posts talk about TAH with TAL. Men get some interesting results from this but seem to find themsleves talking sexy to other men. That kinda creeps me out. I have ordered some TAH. Haven’t tried it yet. It seems TAH without TAL, but with a good dose of A314 would be worth experimenting with. From what I’ve read TAC makes people feel more confident, accepted and trusting at the group level and large amounts can induce hilarity. I’ve ordered some TAC as well. denec - I’m gonna try the MEO-EST with TAC per your suggestion. Let us know if you determine the exact function of MEO-EST. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179.md?page=1)