# Tell me about P102

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 14, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856 "2012-06-14T08:24:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![wiihomebrewftw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wiihomebrewftw/32/1102_2.png) [@wiihomebrewftw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiihomebrewftw)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/23 "2013-07-27T20:30:13Z")

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After reading some posts trying to figure out what mones I want to use this Saturday, I stumbled across this thread and remembered I had received some p102 as a freebie in my last order. So I put a shot of it on my wrist and rubbed it under my nose. Almost instantly it felt as if I had just smoked a bit of weed. I only smoke a couple times a year and this feeling from the p102 was so familiar to me. That focused bright sensation you get after smoking. I would almost recommend p102 as a first purchase for newbies so that they can in fact see that [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) really work. That’s how much of a change it had in me. I sprayed it about 15 minutes ago and I still feel high from it. For me personally, I would almost not use this in a social setting as I don’t like being high around strangers.

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/24 "2013-07-28T09:27:28Z")

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These are some good reports. Try testing 20 mcg. I think that would be OD to me, but if I see more like this, I’m willing to try it. If it keeps doing interesting things, I might buy the stronger spray (12.5). Test this vs. [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/). Try it with a few or more sprays of IShine, IH or IO. The P103 (not stocked) had some hypnotic reports. You can see how it might pair well with betanol. Remember that they used P83 and P79 with p102 in MX353 / pherobomb. 102 seems to be good with P75, just as it is with 83.

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**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/25 "2013-07-28T09:35:26Z")

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P102 is the icing on the cake on a really good attraction mix, I would say find the combo that works best for you then add P102, you will see the difference, I noticed the powers of P102 this way. P102 solo is a total different feel.

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/26 "2013-07-28T11:39:24Z")

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P102 seems like it performs best as a steering [pheromone](https://a314.com/). I see communication qualities with it, but I sometimes see effects that others don’t. Many of these are intensifiers I (they seem to modulate GABA to heighten alertness). People are then energized to speak or act on their thoughts: they can’t sit still. Under reported is the use of say 25 ug 102 with the same of P74. I have both of these, but testing never crossed my mind til today. I think you may need over 20 u g to see some p102 fx. Most of the energizing putatives seem to have communication or dis-inhibition potential and will enhance the primary mone they are steering. There is an interest in developing alternatives to scarce mones that comprise the consumer line. P74 isn’t an adequate IO/IH substitute without improved enhancement. More female reports are needed, as the male echo chamber is not a substitute for live data.

> [@P102 first impression](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p102-first-impression/41964):
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> 2 sprays IG 1 spray Ammo 1/2 spray P75 1 spray P102 Bowling Alley: As soon as I got near anyone they began chatting up a storm and everyone seemed happy. This seemed similar to [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), but not as blatant. Self Effect: I seemed to be aware of all conversations around me at the same time; heightened auditory. This is a really interesting “P” and it should be fun testing it further.cool

One women’s journal tagged p102 in 3 years (we will have to start giving out free drinks for pheromone ladies night, I guess):

> [@Jazzz: TAA, P83, P102 and others](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jazzz-taa-p83-p102-and-others/57671/5):
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> P102 and P130 Applied 3 sprays of P102 to the neck and 3 sprays of P130 to both wrists (2 to the left, 1 to the right), 5 mcg both. I can’t smell anything on my wrists, but the P102 that’s on the neck smells really nice. Very light, but very nice. The mood is good. Wasn’t before I sprayed them. I talked to a friend on the phone, and I noticed that I was smiling for no reason all the time. So, I’m not sure which one (or both together) improved my mood wonderfully. Not in an [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) kind o…

From the archives…

> [@"Venting" my Adventures](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/22):
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> i might be limited to a P102 night, as i have just done a search and figured out that i have already tested P101 at length. apparently i loved the stuff and saw it becomming huge in the future. as i read my posts about it, i remembered thinking this is one i might a really bigger bottle of. i eventually added it to TAF and decided wearing it out as a social mix with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and TAH would be very life of the party. im not finding that i have much i havent tested, alot of the 80’s putitives i got …

Something like 15 women reporting in journals since 2009. Just not enough broad data from different people to reach any conclusions. Me trying to second guess what effect the molecule actually presents to the female psyche is like a dowsing rod: not too reliable.

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**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/27 "2013-07-28T13:05:07Z")

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25mcg P102 is a good dose. Try it.

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**Author:** ![wiihomebrewftw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wiihomebrewftw/32/1102_2.png) [@wiihomebrewftw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiihomebrewftw)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/28 "2013-08-01T20:25:37Z")

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I tried some p102 again tonight, and I can say that I DO NOT LIKE IT! It’s giving me anxiety and a bit of a panic attack. I just don’t like how I feel on it. I really have to wonder what’s in this putative. Is it going to cause me to fail a drug test? lol.

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/29 "2013-08-01T21:42:37Z")

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> [@wiihomebrewftw](#):
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> I tried some p102 again tonight, and I can say that I DO NOT LIKE IT! It’s giving me anxiety and a bit of a panic attack. I just don’t like how I feel on it. I really have to wonder what’s in this putative. Is it going to cause me to fail a drug test? lol.

My foundation in neurochemistry isn’t as strong as it could be, but basically I think P102 is a neurosteroid that acts something like a negative allosteric modulator. It makes the neurons fire more. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is similar. This manifests in different ways. It increases visual and mental focus. Ideas and thoughts become words and actions. P75 disinhibits and provokes focus. P83 is similar, but the manifestations are more vocalized.

> **[Allosteric modulator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allosteric_modulator)**
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> In pharmacology and biochemistry, allosteric modulators are a group of substances that bind to a receptor to change that receptor's response to stimuli. Some of them, like benzodiazepines or alcohol, function as psychoactive drugs. The site that an allosteric modulator binds to (i.e., an allosteric site) is not the same one to which an endogenous agonist of the receptor would bind (i.e., an orthosteric site). Modulators and agonists can both be called receptor ligands. Allosteric modulators can ...

Edit: Try also testing it by itself with some crazy clothing or other item. 102 is Mr. Attention Getter. Test it with heavy P75 as well.

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**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/30 "2013-08-06T07:22:48Z")

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These reports are crazy interesting.. I’ll be requesting my freebie be p102 in my next order 🙂

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 10:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/31 "2013-08-07T10:57:20Z")

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> [@wiihomebrewftw](#):
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> I tried some p102 again tonight, and I can say that I DO NOT LIKE IT! It’s giving me anxiety and a bit of a panic attack. I just don’t like how I feel on it. I really have to wonder what’s in this putative. Is it going to cause me to fail a drug test? lol.

Ha, well, wilhomebrewftw, P102 won’t cause you to fail a drug test. Drugs, though, will cause you to fail a drug test.

What were your dosage and application points? Where did you test? (What environment?) Had you showered before you applied?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/32 "2013-08-07T11:01:11Z")

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> [@windersan](#):
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> Definitely has hallucinogenic properties. The heightened sense of awareness is like weed or shrooms or even like a deeply spiritual moment. It makes me sensitive, too sensitive, at 10 mcg. I might try and dilute it when I get some more ToGo bottles. I wore IJ inappropriately to salsa class, and it was almost unbearable for me, because people felt the IJ so strongly. My “auntie” said a couple times that she was going to slap me. With one woman, she is rather maternal and so I had to make sure the IJ was in the anger rather than sexual frame, and she kept asking me what was wrong, I seemed so angry? (Although when she said “angry” she said it suggestively - shows you that anger and sex are two sides of the same coin) I had hot flashes, I had to take breaks to recover. The younger girls who I actually flirt with were VERY sexual, one was saying let’s do it, let’s make it happen, she also let out a Freudian slip when she said “fuck” since thats all that was on her mind. The other girl is a good dancer, and couldn’t stop dancing for me, even if I just stood there. She said, "sorry I’m being so slutty, it’s just REALLY HOT in here, while she pulled up her shirt and showed me her bra. I don’t think she realized what she was doing, because as I was looking, she was like, lets dance, like she caught me staring. Also, I would get a bit on edge if I couldn’t do the whole thing really well. She was very comforting to me, and was hugging up on me while I stood there all angry and shiz. Its interesting how girls are so loving and tender when I am FURIOUS, girls love to help calm guys down it seems. Sex and fury was in the air, and everybody could feel it.  
> I haven’t worn IJ without the p102 to this class, so I don’t have that to compare, BUT I feel that the p102 made me FEEL this so much more intensely (I had 20 mcgs total).  
> I also notice that I get all spiritual with the stuff on. If I am not feeling so good, I reallllly don’t feel good. It makes me too bi-polar. Even my relationship to the molecule is bipolar. First I told myself, wow, this is great! I love mones! In fact, I should really try to understand this molecule, I should ONLY use p102! So interesting! Then…I was like, fuck this molecule p102…wow, this really makes me feel weak and like shit, I should throw all these free bottles of this stuff away, wish they gave me something else for a sample instead of P102 FOUR TIMES IN A ROW…and then later I felt like I had Jesus and Buddha powers…definitely interesting stuff…tough to fuck with, I find that I need a bottle of p75 or IJ lying around when Im using it just in case I start to feel a low

Great report!

How many sprays IJ / P102? ie. What was your exact mix?

“younger” girls. We talkin’ 19-20? 25-27?

In your salsa class, did you find yourself more “in the zone”? Or more into social situations?

What’s your ethnic background? Do you come off as intimidating, sans 'mones?

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**Author:** ![dorfmeister](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dorfmeister/32/5188_2.png) [@dorfmeister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dorfmeister)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/33 "2013-08-19T19:37:14Z")

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I’d like to hear more reports about this Pheromone mix.

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**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/34 "2013-08-19T19:59:05Z")

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> [@dorfmeister](#):
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> I’d like to hear more reports about this Pheromone mix.

Tested 15mcg a few weeks back. Same heightened visuals as 5 and 10 mcg. Same heightened hearing at about 10 mcgs. At 15 though smell kicked in more than usual. Also the effect lasted full strength for about 45 minutes and noticeable to about 2 hours.

Again it’s nice, but not quite as amazing as just doing a Vipassana retreat for 10 days (seriously amazing how heightened your senses become after that).

Yet to try it in a sex mix, but will soonish and report, that’ll be at 20mcg.

Edit: I remembered that WOW! Never really smelled [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) until I sprayed on that much and smell was totally enhanced for about 20 minutes (it died off before visuals and hearing, probably due to how I weight things in my mind over a lifetime). I could actually detect that it actually is/was a strong orange smell. Done 20 mcg with P74 and never vaguely noticed the subtle notes of the Neroli in it.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/35 "2013-08-20T02:33:21Z")

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Tested 10mcg last night. Heightened senses were there, both visual and hearing, but were barely perceptible almost to the point where I wondered whether or not it was placebo. Things just seemed to have a ‘crisp edge’ to them whether it was color or sounds, and went away within the hour.

During hour two I began to feel a little tired, my eyes had trouble focusing (like i had to put forth conscious effort to focus them on my computer screen while typing), and I felt like I was beginning to become a little sluggish, like maybe I had a couple beers with dinner and just wanted to sit the rest of the evening.

I’ll give this another go at 15mcg, but I’m afraid to test it this morning while headed to work. Wouldn’t want to be passed out at my desk by 10am!

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/36 "2013-09-10T06:14:35Z")

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10:15 on a Tuesday morning here in Indianapolis and I just received my order with a free P102. Since I’m at work…I’ll go ahead and give it the ole’ “self” test. I’ve already hit myself with IS, IO & IH before I left the house this morning. I’ll hit behind the ears, the temples and under the nose..I’m in sales so we’ll see what it brings?

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**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/37 "2013-09-10T06:15:25Z")

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> [@urdoingtoomuch](#):
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> 10:15 on a Tuesday morning here in Indianapolis and I just received my order with a free P102. Since I’m at work…I’ll go ahead and give it the ole’ “self” test. I’ve already hit myself with IS, IO & IH before I left the house this morning. I’ll hit behind the ears, the temples and under the nose..I’m in sales so we’ll see what it brings?

Ooooh someone else in Indy!

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/38 "2013-09-10T06:52:22Z")

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> [@ryanmercer](#):
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> Ooooh someone else in Indy!

Hey Ryanmercer…I’m in Avon! Glad to know there’s another “mone’s” brother in the neighborhood!

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/39 "2013-09-10T07:58:28Z")

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Ok, the first hour with P102 (behind ears, temples & under nose) already hit myself with 1 IH, 1 IO & 2 IS) from early in the morning. Great awareness…definitely into my computer screen! Talking with people on the phone I have a very chatty and solution based attitude! I have 1:00 meeting with a woman from a finance company…I’ll hit it once more with the P102 in the same areas before we meet.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/40 "2013-09-10T10:09:06Z")

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Well, the meeting was a success. I’m not sure if it was my sig’ or just a nice afternoon? So, I hit myself again with the P102 with one spray (hit the ears, temples & nose) I felt alive and alert that’s for sure. Had to force myself to listen (I wanted to interrupt and talk so bad!) to what the customer really wanted. She was pleasant and played along with my mixed in humor! Although she was middle aged and professional…I got the “let me buy you a cup of coffee” ticket punched! P102…who knew?

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/41 "2013-09-10T18:58:28Z")

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P102 seems to recreate some sort of predatory vision, or heightened awareness in me too. I feel like I can seek out the most openable set of any of the ones around. I feel like the focus is widened to include much more stimulus.

I pushed my p102 usage the other night at a concert, with 5mcg before the concert, and then another 20mcg for the drive home, as I have had great luck using this at night for driving. My vision at night sucks, and this stuff seems to enhance it.

The effects only seem to last a short time, about 1 hour tops. Usage of more than 20mcg caused a reaction much like sharkndragon described, incredible fatigue in me. It was an hour an a half drive home from this concert, and after the effect wore off, my eyes were closing themselves for a second or two at a time because I was so tired, and my vision was bleary and distorted. I nearly had to pull over and wake my sleeping wife up to drive the last 20 minutes.

P102 overloaded me at 15mcg, I think. I figured it would increase my focus for longer, but it OD’d me at that intensity. I was great for the first hour, and then it was all downhill from there, leaving me exhausted, and nearly falling asleep driving. And it wasn’t just exhaustion, I felt drugged, like I was trying to fight for consciousness against the effects of NyQuil or something. Not good. I managed to get through it by opening the windows and slapping myself in the face a little, but yeah, p102 is best used at small doses I think.

My journal has a little more on the effects I’ve experienced with this putative.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tell-me-about-p102/55856/42 "2013-09-11T17:04:38Z")

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Wow, this is a weird pheromone!

I got it as a freebie with my order. It seems to increase your visual depth of field. I have my eyes focused on my cellphone screen as I type this, but I can see objects behind it more clearly. i have a harder time focusing just on a single object. My vision seems to be a tad more narrow as well. My eyes feel a bit more tired too, probably due to the difficulty in focusing.

I dont like it too much to be honest. I drive a lot for a living and I can see this pheromone being a bit of a hazardous. I can see this pheromone being very fun at a club or a rave however.

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