# tesosterone therapy and happiness **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [November 23, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351 "2012-11-23T11:41:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/1 "2012-11-23T11:41:17Z")
Anyone have any views as to why increased testosterone levels make me sometimes very angry , aggressive etc and other times very happy? I have heard of men with high levels being classified as one or the other, but I tend to go between each. Many people think when your T levels are good you feel on top of the world. I find that to not always be the case. Any comments? ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/2 "2012-11-23T21:36:01Z")
Testosterone influences Dopamine metabolism and potentiates its activity. ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/3 "2012-11-23T22:31:21Z")
BTW… if you are taking regular dosings of testosterone, there are superior methods. Sustainable ones.. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/4 "2012-11-24T08:00:34Z")
I’m taking a herbal supplement which has been proven to double test levels over time by increasing natural production.. Its not external test nor steriods. ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/5 "2012-11-24T10:16:04Z")
Educate yourself on endocrine disruptors. Seek their sequestering and subsequent removal, storage ones tissues. Chelation therapy will boost your natural levels as I can attest from experience. I recommend you research beyond this piece, as there are more requisites to cleaning up the garbage we’ve accumulated: [Testosterone Factor: How to Raise Testosterone Naturally! - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE0y1jjQ5kQ) ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/6 "2012-11-24T10:31:40Z")
I’ve found heightened libido, greater “working memory”; and now, furtherance automated assertive composures with females of interest. “Smelling” healthy has positive attributes discoverable elsewhere this forum. Natural phero production most certainly increases, but including exercise really livens the playing field. ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/7 "2012-11-27T16:02:32Z")
The problem with most testosterone supps is that there aren’t any long term studies. The supps you buy in the store can have any chemical in out despite label claims. A lot of the herbal stuff is great when it first comes out then by next year everyone claims it didn’t work and something new takes it’s place. ---
**Author:** ![WalrusGumBoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/walrusgumboot/32/1300_2.png) [@WalrusGumBoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WalrusGumBoot)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/8 "2012-11-29T09:31:58Z")
I’m 51, and for the last three or four years, something didn’t “feel right”. It just snuck up on me. Not wanting to go out in the evening, feeling blue… feeling… old. Doctor ordered bloodwork and it came out OK, so he wanted to stick me on anti-depressants. I did a ton of homework and felt like I had symptoms of low T. I presented it to my doctor. He said my T was fine (total T of 440). This is in “normal” range, but the range is huge, from like 250-1000, and that is for all ages of men. He refused to do blood work for free testosterone, so I paid for it out of pocket. It showed a 7.9, still normal, but barely. I consulted with a few healthy aging doctors and an endocrinologist, and all agreed that even though I was considered normal, I was probably low compared to what I should be to operate optimally. I started taking weekly injections about 6 months ago, and recently got T pellets inserted to avoid the weekly dr. visits. My T levels have increased significantly and all my prior symptoms disappeared. I don’t feel overly-agitated or euphoric. I just feel like my old self again.. like the clock has been turned back 20 years. Yes, there is some risk in having hormone replacement therapy, but the risk of NOT doing it is much greater. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/9 "2012-11-29T10:31:39Z")
> [@WalrusGumBoot](#): > > I’m 51, and for the last three or four years, something didn’t “feel right”. It just snuck up on me. Not wanting to go out in the evening, feeling blue… feeling… old. Doctor ordered bloodwork and it came out OK, so he wanted to stick me on anti-depressants. > > I did a ton of homework and felt like I had symptoms of low T. I presented it to my doctor. He said my T was fine (total T of 440). This is in “normal” range, but the range is huge, from like 250-1000, and that is for all ages of men. He refused to do blood work for free testosterone, so I paid for it out of pocket. It showed a 7.9, still normal, but barely. > > I consulted with a few healthy aging doctors and an endocrinologist, and all agreed that even though I was considered normal, I was probably low compared to what I should be to operate optimally. I started taking weekly injections about 6 months ago, and recently got T pellets inserted to avoid the weekly dr. visits. > > My T levels have increased significantly and all my prior symptoms disappeared. I don’t feel overly-agitated or euphoric. I just feel like my old self again.. like the clock has been turned back 20 years. > > Yes, there is some risk in having hormone replacement therapy, but the risk of NOT doing it is much greater. I myself had T replacement but didn’t like it.. the shots were given by a dumb family doctor who admistered them just according to his book (1x month).. i had a spike followed by terrible roller coaster ride of depression after. I also had VERY bad side effects like acne. I now use Tongkat Ali which increases my T.. i feel great. I eat a good diet with good almost of fat (mostly from eggs) and I sleep 8 hrs a day which is necessary for T.. I also do weight training 3 x week and do minimal cardio (20 min walking) for the heart as I hear too much aerobics will kill your T. I am on medications and don’t feel like I’m 20 years younger at all with the testosterone boost but then again I have just started. Summer time should be a good indicator of my real levels as that is when thoughts turn to love and lust. During the winter many people including me have SAD and i don’t feel sexual as much although I think of sex quite often. Also I would like to do heavy squats etc which increase T but I can’t because I’ve got nerve damage in my neck and problems with the discs in my spine and lower back. i also have TMJ in my jaw from boxing in my 20’s. All in all my joints are a mess. I take a calcium supplement and it has helped but I still can’t lift more than 15 lbs dumbells (actually I can lift even 30 lbs but the joints can’t handle it although the muscles can). Any advice for me? I still get acne from tongkat ali but I feel f\*cken great.. I use proactive on my back to get rid of the acne. I also take cialis daily at 5 mg… the only sides I’ve noticed from it are headaches. i don’t get instant erections from watching porn, I need very constant and vigorous stimulation for what seems forever to get and maintain an erection. It does happen with porn but I have a harder time with real women as they aren’t as good at turning me on compared to how porn stars act. This tongkat ali i take is supposed to eventually get your T levels to increase by 100% over many months. Its a particular brand grown in indonesia. Do you find you get easy erections with little stimulation, or have to use erectile drugs too? All in all sex isn’t the only thing on my mind. I take test boosters for improve body muscle to fat ratio, mood improvement, treatment for depression, and because my natural levels are very low. I find when I eat a diet high in fat and cholestrol (read, cheeses, red meat, whole eggs, bacon) myerections are much harder, better and more frequent. problem is this can be dangerous long run. I really am in a catch 22. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/10 "2012-11-29T13:23:07Z")
This is a good article to read, it’s backed up by scientific references and it’s about boosting natural testosterone levels through diet and nutrition: [The Testosterone Diet: The Ultimate Meal Plan To Ramp Up Your Body’s Levels Of Testosterone | SimplyShredded.com](http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-testosterone-diet-the-ultimate-meal-plan-to-ramp-up-your-bodys-levels-of-testosterone.html) ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/11 "2012-12-01T06:03:57Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I myself had T replacement but didn’t like it.. the shots were given by a dumb family doctor who admistered them just according to his book (1x month).. i had a spike followed by terrible roller coaster ride of depression after. > > I also had VERY bad side effects like acne. > > I now use Tongkat Ali which increases my T.. i feel great. I eat a good diet with good almost of fat (mostly from eggs) and I sleep 8 hrs a day which is necessary for T.. I also do weight training 3 x week and do minimal cardio (20 min walking) for the heart as I hear too much aerobics will kill your T. > > I am on medications and don’t feel like I’m 20 years younger at all with the testosterone boost but then again I have just started. Summer time should be a good indicator of my real levels as that is when thoughts turn to love and lust. > > During the winter many people including me have SAD and i don’t feel sexual as much although I think of sex quite often. > > ^(Try colloidal gold:"Source:“HARVARD medical school” & “some traditional uses include treatments for arthritis, skin ulcers, burns, impotence and certain nerve-end operations. Gold can have a balancing and harmonizing effect on the body particularly with regard to unstable mental and emotional states, such as depression, S.A.D. (Seasonal Affective Disorder), melancholy, sorrow, fear, despair, anguish, frustration, suicidal tendencies; the maladies commonly referred to as the “sicknesses of the heart”. Gold has been known down through the ages to have a direct effect on the activities of the heart, helping to improve blood circulation.” [Effect of Colloidal Metallic Gold on Cognitive Functions](http://www.biophysica.com/gold.html)) > > Also I would like to do heavy squats etc which increase T but I can’t because I’ve got nerve damage in my neck and problems with the discs in my spine and lower back. i also have TMJ in my jaw from boxing in my 20’s. All in all my joints are a mess. > > I take a calcium supplement and it has helped but I still can’t lift more than 15 lbs dumbells (actually I can lift even 30 lbs but the joints can’t handle it although the muscles can). > > ^(Avoid calcium supplements and focus on calcium rich foods you can cycle. Rather get some silica and magnesium chloride running through your system as this not only will prevent the calcium from building up in the wrong places, but also will enhance its bio availability. Also check for ALUMINUM lake in the ingredients like:Blue 01, Blue02, Yellow 5, Yellow 6, Red 40, and so fourth. Aluminum is not only toxic but also biologically irrelevant concerning its use in the body. Treat this undesirable and pervasive poison as the enemy and reject it whenever you discover it. You also might want to get comfortable with sulfur compounds for their antioxidant capacity. [David Wolfe on Calcium pt 1 - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9VEz2Px8QM)) > > Any advice for me? I still get acne from tongkat ali but I feel f\*cken great.. I use proactive on my back to get rid of the acne. > > ^(I use to take manmade vitamin A to address acne. As a liver toxin you are limited three rotations in medical practice. Too bad the root cause of acne is internal. The health of your liver and toxic body burden of heavy metals is the root cause. I know because of experience. The TREATMENT merely hid the problem and ultimately made it worse.) > > I also take cialis daily at 5 mg… the only sides I’ve noticed from it are headaches. > > i don’t get instant erections from watching porn, I need very constant and vigorous stimulation for what seems forever to get and maintain an erection. It does happen with porn but I have a harder time with real women as they aren’t as good at turning me on compared to how porn stars act. > > ^(Be careful crafting addictive habits you cannot realistically replicate in the real world.) > > This tongkat ali i take is supposed to eventually get your T levels to increase by 100% over many months. Its a particular brand grown in indonesia. > > Do you find you get easy erections with little stimulation, or have to use erectile drugs too? > > ^(when I started chelation, I noticed obvious changes in my libido. When I first took Tribulus; the effects were immediate, the day I woke up. One of those involuntary situations mind you…) > > All in all sex isn’t the only thing on my mind. I take test boosters for improve body muscle to fat ratio, mood improvement, treatment for depression, and because my natural levels are very low. > > ^(The depression stems from reduced dopamine levels. Testosterone and this neurotransmitter correlate.) > > I find when I eat a diet high in fat and cholestrol (read, cheeses, red meat, whole eggs, bacon) myerections are much harder, better and more frequent. problem is this can be dangerous long run. > > ^(Cholesterol is a requisite to testosterone production. Consume vitamin c daily, and you needn’t worry about cholesterol accumulation as it inhibits such. Not all fat is bad as you most certainly know. Consider avoiding endocrine disrupting varieties like corn oil. The majority of corn is genetically adulterated to produce pesticide. Consider olive oil or coconut oil when cooking.) > > I really am in a catch 22. ^(Not really. The medical profession of today is geared toward the continual repeat of clientele and therefor is not interested in solving the root problem of most disease. CURING disease is less their focus, and their actions protrude more TREATMENT; legal language for dissolving symptoms whilst ignoring the ultimate cause. They are great at adressing acute problems, but most their proposed long term “solutions”; run fast and hard for the hills and rely on your own self education.) ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/12 "2012-12-01T07:08:35Z")
[08-08 David Wolfe ORMUS.avi - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJBvSIRMnVw) 5:40-6:10 ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/13 "2012-12-01T08:32:07Z")
Trt shots are supposed to be taken once a week to eliminate fluctuations. Find a new doctor. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tesosterone-therapy-and-happiness/57351/14 "2012-12-01T14:05:26Z")
> [@Blacky\_Chan](#): > > Trt shots are supposed to be taken once a week to eliminate fluctuations. Find a new doctor. I went to the canadian men’s clinic about 4 years ago and took shots from them once a week . It worked better than monthly but i still had very bad acne from it.. I was also worried about cancer. I like natural remedies like indonesian tongkat ali.. My test levels may not be as high as someone taking HRT but they’re high enough to have sex weekly. What i’m more concerned is free test.. that is the issue.. And no HRT didn’t cure my depression.. i had bouts of extreme horniness after taking a shot followed by depression and crying… It was extreme probably due to my bipolar i had since age 15.