# Thank God for Androtics, bad experience with LS **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 23, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893 "2011-06-23T18:01:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893/41 "2011-06-30T07:11:37Z")
I totally agree. LS shipping sucks royally.. Androtics stuff gets delivered to me here in India in 3 days flat. I purchased A1 once from LS. that would be probably my first and last purchase. it took them nearly 40 days to deliver it after charging me 33$ odd for shipping ☹ ---
**Author:** ![TryAnythingOnce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tryanythingonce/32/283_2.png) [@TryAnythingOnce](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TryAnythingOnce)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893/42 "2011-06-30T13:24:55Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > We had a surge of customs and also the new MXs to formulate - keep in mind that we make everything to order if its custom so it could take extra time (we quote a time on the site, but usually try to do same or next day at the latest) > > If you want something shipped separately if its still on hold please give us a call - 1-800-671-6464 or +01 425-786-2001 No need to call…the package was from you guys! I wrongly assumed it was the LS one as theirs left before yours! So on the day I get my confirmation of shipping the package arrives 😮 thats spooky fast! I expect there was a slight delay sending my shipping confirmation lol… …now I need to chase LS up!..😉 ---
**Author:** ![TryAnythingOnce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tryanythingonce/32/283_2.png) [@TryAnythingOnce](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TryAnythingOnce)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893/43 "2011-06-30T13:27:36Z")
> [@TryAnythingOnce](#): > > No need to call…the package was from you guys! I wrongly assumed it was the LS one as theirs left before yours! > > So on the day I get my confirmation of shipping the package arrives 😮 thats spooky fast! I expect there was a slight delay sending my shipping confirmation lol… > > …now I need to chase LS up!..😉 Huh…the LS package is still in the US!..LS told me it shipped Monday…😕 6/30/2011 6:11 am Depart Facility [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Cincinnati Hub, Oh 5:21 am Processed at DHL Location. [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Cincinnati Hub, Oh 3:42 am Transit through DHL facility [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Cincinnati Hub, Oh 6/29/2011 9:17 pm Depart Facility [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Los Angeles Gateway, Ca 8:58 pm Processed at DHL Location. [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Los Angeles Gateway, Ca 7:07 pm Transit through DHL facility [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Los Angeles Gateway, Ca 6:45 pm Depart Facility [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Los Angeles, Ca 6:44 pm Processed at DHL Location. [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Los Angeles, Ca 4:33 pm Shipment picked up [http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif](http://www.dhl-usa.com/images/blank.gif) Los Angeles, Ca ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893/44 "2011-08-08T05:11:54Z")
> [@hillcat](#): > > I have tryed both product…I do prefer AMMO i curently have AMMO X2. The thing his with AMMO its easy to dose and mix very well with other product. That being said NPA his a hit or miss but when it hit it really knocks it out of the ballpark. I find AMMO a sexy social kind of product as NPA his aggressive sexually and women cannot control inhabition thats when it hits. i say my experience as been good with NPA but better overall with AMMO because i like mixing and like the way that i can dose things better with spray than oil NPA. that was my 2 cents AMMO = Get’s the women interested…NPA = Get’s them wet… ---
**Author:** ![hypno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hypno](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hypno)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893/45 "2013-06-14T07:04:58Z")
I just received my NPA from LS it took bloody ages, it went on holiday in customs. I just had to pay 13.15 English pounds for the privilege and to get it from postal service. My first order from LS took about 2 weeks and no problems. I had quick replies both from Bruce and from Tammy regarding time. I sent them an Email about customs and awaiting reply. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893/46 "2013-06-14T07:23:35Z")
Jeepers. This is a sloppy thread. Turn up the Heat is AD’s answer to NPA (New Pheromone Additive). To be honest, they are NOT alike to me. NPA is made with some South African herbs which gives them some qualities which no other product on the market has. Ammo is NOTHING like NPA. Ammo is slightly like Lacroy’s Impi, but Impi also has the special herb in it. AD has the best, I mean absolutely best, shipping of any company. My only problem is some custom orders take a while, but that is expected. LS is SLOW, slowest of any phero company. Some of their products are top of the line because they sell Lacroy products. They also once sold A314. LS sells products for other vendors. LS is doing what most companies do, black list countries based on shipping issues, import issues, and fraud. They are not calling you a fraud, but saying your region is known for credit card fraud, and that could potentially be a loss if they sell to you and the credit card company does not clear payment. If I were in your boat, I would email Bruce and ask if you can pay with paypal with a bank account, wire transfer, or another such form of payment. He should be willing to work with you. Nice guy. If you want an AD product, as aforementioned, TuTH is your way to go. From the sounds of it with only two orders under your belt you are not the most phero savvy person. Love Scent has a forum to complain on for this type of issue. Bad press on their site will get you a better response. NPA is just eNone for the inexperienced user. You do hear great stories about NPA from advanced users, but unless you are using it to build the African Herbal, spiking another product, making a cologne batch, making a mix with P’s, etc. You dont need NPA. Straight eNone or TuTH will work, plus, that way you can find information and support on this forum. EDIT: WHY ON EARTH WOULD SOMEONE BUMP A TWO YEAR OLD THREAD? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/thank-god-for-androtics-bad-experience-with-ls/50893.md?page=2)