# the 30 ml bottle compare to the 5 ml togo?

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**Created:** [February 26, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-30-ml-bottle-compare-to-the-5-ml-togo/63914 "2015-02-26T18:44:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![jumba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jumba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumba)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-30-ml-bottle-compare-to-the-5-ml-togo/63914/1 "2015-02-26T18:44:39Z")

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i was just wondering since some of the 30ml bottle are the same price as the 5 ml to go bottle. what is added in the 30 ml bottle than the 5 ml? the 30 ml would have 2.5 mcg and the 5 ml has 12.5 mcg. am i correct?

another note: if i spray a bottle with different fragrance would that affect the outcome of my test? how many spray of the 2.5 mcg bottle if i want to use with the 5 ml to go 12.5 bottle?

Jumba

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-30-ml-bottle-compare-to-the-5-ml-togo/63914/2 "2015-02-26T20:26:43Z")

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They are just the same in the consumer range - the only thing to bear in mind is that the togo spray volume is approx 80% of a 30ml.

Putatives/Experimones in 30mls are usually at a basic concentration of 2.5mcg, whilst togos are 12.5mcg, which is much stronges - Different concentrations up or down are charged at different rates - check the list box.

MX’s are priced by the individual mix.

Using a cover scent can affect results - so if testing, it is best to stick to the standard scent, which is a known quantity to AD

Of course in the wild, plenty of us do use a different cover scent and the good quality colognes tend to be ok - its the cheap-shit/mass-market skoosh that tends to be laden with phero-killing antibacterials. Essential oils need to be watched too - any with natural antibacterial properties will likely nuke your mones.

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**Author:** ![jumba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jumba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumba)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-30-ml-bottle-compare-to-the-5-ml-togo/63914/3 "2015-02-27T03:30:21Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> They are just the same in the consumer range - the only thing to bear in mind is that the togo spray volume is approx 80% of a 30ml.
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> Putatives/Experimones in 30mls are usually at a basic concentration of 2.5mcg, whilst togos are 12.5mcg, which is much stronges - Different concentrations up or down are charged at different rates - check the list box.
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> MX’s are priced by the individual mix.
> 
> Using a cover scent can affect results - so if testing, it is best to stick to the standard scent, which is a known quantity to AD
> 
> Of course in the wild, plenty of us do use a different cover scent and the good quality colognes tend to be ok - its the cheap-shit/mass-market skoosh that tends to be laden with phero-killing antibacterials. Essential oils need to be watched too - any with natural antibacterial properties will likely nuke your mones.

how many of the 30 ml 2.5 mcg i have to spray to to = a 5 mlm 12.5 to go? should i really spray that many?

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-30-ml-bottle-compare-to-the-5-ml-togo/63914/4 "2015-02-27T10:04:20Z")

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> [@jumba](#):
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> how many of the 30 ml 2.5 mcg i have to spray to to = a 5 mlm 12.5 to go? should i really spray that many?

Its a simple form of adding the numbers. 12.5 mcg = 5x 2.5mcg. So, for 1 spray of 12.5mcg you need to spray 5 times 2.5mcg.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-30-ml-bottle-compare-to-the-5-ml-togo/63914/5 "2015-02-27T10:44:15Z")

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Yup -just add-up the sprays till you get the required amount.

The 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scent of putatives can be layered-up quite a bit if you leave it half an hour or so to settle down after application but yes, a lot of sprays can get a bit obtrusive.

Going for other scents/strengths can limit your usable dose range substantially though, so it is best to stick to Neroli till you have an idea of what works for you.

The answer is to get your 30ml in a higher strength for some pheros. Having a read of the existing info will give you an idea of a reasonable starting dose for many of them but for some, it is best to start with the 2.5mcg - P75 is an example of one.