# the 5 big hitters compared -mx292 vs Ammo vs A7 vs TE/NPA vs Pheroproof **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 9, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891 "2009-02-09T13:04:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/21 "2009-03-01T18:39:37Z")
**Re: the 5 big hitters compared -mx292 vs Ammo vs A7 vs TE/NPA vs Pheroproof** > [@](#): > > **\*\* > By Dancing\_Joker : Unless the ratios have changed, NPA has a concentration of 0.24 mg/ml for each of its 2 components, which translates to about 6 mcg/drop of Androstenone and 6 mcg/drop of Lacroy secret ingredient, compared to Raw Power’s 10 mcg/drop of Androstenone.\*\*** Thank you for the correction on the NPA, D-J . 🙂 Therefore going by your calculation of a total of 6 mcg/drop that would make around 80 dr/ml and therefore 400 dr/5 ml . I did spend years counting and recording the drops in many products, so as to try and get a close approximations of mcg’s/drops, And after relocating my office my file on the subject has been lost. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/22 "2009-03-01T21:43:19Z")
> [@terry0400-40](#): > > > [@Dancing\_Joker](#): > > > > Unless the ratios have changed, NPA has a concentration of 0.24 mg/ml for each of its 2 components, which translates to about 6 mcg/drop of Androstenone and 6 mcg/drop of Lacroy secret ingredient, compared to Raw Power’s 10 mcg/drop of Androstenone. > > Thank you for the correction on the NPA, D-J . 🙂 > Therefore going by your calculation of a total of 6 mcg/drop that would make around 80 dr/ml and therefore 400 dr/5 ml . No, each drop has 6 mcg of Androstenone and 6 mcg of Lacroy secret ingredient, so it’s only 40 drops/ml or 200 drops per 5 ml bottle. This is based on a standardized Androtics pipette since the NPA dropper cap dispenses uneven dabs which can consist of single or multiple drops. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/23 "2009-03-02T03:15:53Z")
> [@Dancing\_Joker](#): > > No, each drop has 6 mcg of Androstenone and 6 mcg of Lacroy secret ingredient, so it’s only 40 drops/ml or 200 drops per 5 ml bottle. This is based on a standardized Androtics pipette since the NPA dropper cap dispenses uneven dabs which can consist of single or multiple drops. It looks as if i will have to obtain some of the Androtics pipettes so as to keep my calculations in order, and not input incorrect advice. Really appreciate your information D-J ---
**Author:** ![lone\_star](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lone_star/32/1543_2.png) [@lone\_star](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lone_star)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/24 "2010-02-04T15:58:34Z")
The only two that I own are The Edge and A7. They work great for me. I only need 1 drop of A7. I can’t wait to try Ammo when it comes back though but I doubt mx292 will ever be back. I haven’t tried pheroproof yet either. For me I like A7 better for consistency but TE will give blatant hits. ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/25 "2011-06-02T12:38:54Z")
Great thread… It would’ve been interesting to see TUTH in the group? ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/26 "2011-06-17T15:32:55Z")
so I used to use Max Attraction from luvessentials a long time ago, and I found a random site that ranked MA Gold higher then NPA. At the time I didn’t know how to apply MA but would probably use it more wisely now…is it just some scam site steering you toward products you think?? I’ve never used NPA, A7 or any of the ones you listed except ammo ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/27 "2011-06-17T19:08:59Z")
> [@cjw255](#): > > so I used to use Max Attraction from luvessentials a long time ago, and I found a random site that ranked MA Gold higher then NPA. At the time I didn’t know how to apply MA but would probably use it more wisely now…is it just some scam site steering you toward products you think?? I’ve never used NPA, A7 or any of the ones you listed except ammo It is more than likely just a site steering you towards MA Gold and also possably other products that may be sharing the site. The MA Gold was probably ranked higher than NPA because the Gold is reported to contain far more variety of concentrated pheromones wheras NPA contains only 2.4mg of 4 various pheromones which are Androstenone 50% and the other 50% consists of two undisclosed pheromones. Having used the the luvessentials products whilst they may work for some however i noticed little action from these juices. NPA is ok and workes ok when the dosage has been mastered but my favourite of the two is A7 as it is a smoother more consistent product . ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/28 "2011-06-17T22:05:11Z")
I just ordered a7 And now so ill figure out which one I like more hebe ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/29 "2011-06-17T22:24:04Z")
> [@cjw255](#): > > I just ordered a7 And now so ill figure out which one I like more hebe I would start out with one drop divided and spread below ear pulsepoints. For night life and clubbing i wear two drops A7 and a couple sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and i find this an excellent attraction application. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/30 "2011-06-18T01:04:30Z")
> [@cjw255](#): > > I just ordered a7 And now so ill figure out which one I like more hebe Subscribing for your test results, CJ! ---
**Author:** ![lostguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a4c791/32.png) [@lostguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lostguy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/31 "2011-06-18T02:31:20Z")
just ordered P79 for work mix with ammo lol and THUT for me and my wife and NPA!!! imma newb like to experiment.. blew too much money.. she finds out imma dead man ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/32 "2011-06-19T11:18:19Z")
> [@terry0400-40](#): > > I would start out with one drop divided and spread below ear pulsepoints. > > For night life and clubbing i wear two drops A7 and a couple sprays of Instant Openness and i find this an excellent attraction application. 😉 In fact A7 works nice with high doses of nols … But nothing beats the legendary MX353/MX292 Those were not the most consistant out there … but when there were hits .. it were HITS ! Pago ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/33 "2011-06-19T16:24:45Z")
> [@](#): > > the legendary MX353/MX292 those were the days 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Terpines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@Terpines](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Terpines)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/34 "2011-06-19T19:15:01Z")
Now I want MX292 ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/35 "2011-06-19T21:12:30Z")
> [@lostguy](#): > > just ordered P79 for work mix with ammo lol and THUT for me and my wife and NPA!!! imma newb like to experiment.. blew too much money.. she finds out imma dead man Oh well then just tell her it is special shaving oil he he, that will save any arguments 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/36 "2011-06-20T04:05:27Z")
Dumb phone autocorrect I ordered npa and a7 …im 27 years old so im assuming I couldn’t go as heavy as older men…what kind of age range can I be expecting reactions from if these work for me? Dont younger girls not like none? Def gonna be a busy tester a7 npa tah taa an undisclosed oos item and maybe something else. Should be some good journal entries(I’d. Hope Haha). I don’t think putting a drop of a7 and npa each right off the bat is a good plan…I should find out if either works for me and what dosage I can max out on then maybe use both hehe. Im all of out of any nols tho. Bummer ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/37 "2011-06-20T06:44:08Z")
> [@cjw255](#): > > Dumb phone autocorrect I ordered npa and a7 …im 27 years old so im assuming I couldn’t go as heavy as older men…what kind of age range can I be expecting reactions from if these work for me? Dont younger girls not like none? Def gonna be a busy tester a7 npa tah taa an undisclosed oos item and maybe something else. Should be some good journal entries(I’d. Hope Haha). I don’t think putting a drop of a7 and npa each right off the bat is a good plan…I should find out if either works for me and what dosage I can max out on then maybe use both hehe. Im all of out of any nols tho. Bummer I have found young girls do like Androstenone when it is softened up, once the ice has been broken, or if they are of a less inhibited nature, or if they have consumed a few drinks. At one time i was experiencing exceptionally good attraction/bonding results with young girls when i was using Alpha 7 x 1 dr + 3-4 sp of [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/), this was back in the days when IS did contain copulins. ---
**Author:** ![Terpines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@Terpines](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Terpines)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/38 "2011-06-20T09:35:34Z")
> [@terry0400-40](#): > > I have found young girls do like Androstenone when it is softened up, once the ice has been broken, or if they are of a less inhibited nature, or if they have consumed a few drinks. > > At one time i was experiencing exceptionally good attraction/bonding results with young girls when i was using Alpha 7 x 1 dr + 3-4 sp of Instant Sexiness, this was back in the days when IS did contain copulins. I was just about to make a post to the contrary when I realized my night with 4 drops of A-314 was accompanied by 2 sprays of Instant Openness. I didn’t come to realize I’d be coming across 2 just barely legal girls until I met up with my friends (but hey, I’m 19). By the end of the night the less _in_secure girl was negging her best friend while we were sitting in a parked car at 3 AM for staring at me, complimenting my smile and saying she changed her mind and likes me “now that I’m tired & relaxed” (as well as less alert). This was about hitting 5 hours into my application, so I’m imagining the A-314 was wearing off a by then. A couple hours prior to this we were on the beach and the less-secure girl comes out of nowhere and says “I don’t think I like you” to which I respond (without missing a beat) “Not everyone’s suppose to like me..I’m okay with that”, the group (including her friend who’d be negging her just hours later) laughed and we kept the conversation moving this was the only dissension from the group all night. That girl says I’m like nobody she’s ever been around and it amazes her, she’s been texting me non-stop since trying to make plans for Tuesday. She’s a lil young for me (I prefer older) but I feel I can positively influence her life as a friend, in return she’ll help me with my own ‘business’ endeavors when she makes her trip to Houston, TX (I’ll give her a bunch of CDs to hand out for me when she hits the city). While were talking about other [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/), has anybody heard of Tru3 Ph3romon3s\* or have any information about them? It looks like they completely ripped off Androtics whole line right down to the forum being set-up the exact same way this forum is. It’s like Bizarro World, nonetheless it’s intrigued me enough to try some of their products, they’re carrying some things Androtics no longer does or never did including (pheromone candles, conditioners, soaps, and electronic diffusers…someday I’d hope to have a couple of those when my living set-up is a bit better) \*I edited their name cause I don’t know if it’s okay to post a competing companies name here. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/39 "2011-06-20T10:35:09Z")
> [@](#): > > While were talking about other pheromone products, has anybody heard of Tru3 Ph3romon3s\* or have any information about them? It looks like they completely ripped off Androtics whole line right down to the forum being set-up the exact same way this forum is. I have also used 4 of their products, i like TL , some of my email [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) contacts have ordered TA in the hope of it being able to match A314 but thus far none of my personal contacts are satisfied with TA one has gone and re ordered A314 and is at the moment trying to get a refund on his TA, the vendor replied back to him that he should use more drops, i know that he has already upped it to 5 drops and he is still pissed off and will try for his refund. That forum i am also a member of and it is very quiet compared to others. An old favourite combo of mine being A314 x 2 dr + A7 x 1 dr this is good for attracting a woman of older mature age, however when TA is substituted for A314 the combo just does not seem to fire, therefore its back to the drawing doard to disect Mr A314 and try to reveal the charismatic ingredient X and possably Y and Z 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Terpines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@Terpines](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Terpines)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891/40 "2011-06-20T10:47:45Z")
> [@terry0400-40](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > While were talking about other pheromone products, has anybody heard of Tru3 Ph3romon3s\* or have any information about them? It looks like they completely ripped off Androtics whole line right down to the forum being set-up the exact same way this forum is. > > I have also used 4 of their products, i like TL , some of my email pheromone contacts have ordered TA in the hope of it being able to match A314 but thus far none of my personal contacts are satisfied with TA one has gone and re ordered A314 and is at the moment trying to get a refund on his TA, the vendor replied back to him that he should use more drops, i know that he has already upped it to 5 drops and he is still pissed off and will try for his refund. > > That forum i am also a member of and it is very quiet compared to others. > > An old favourite combo of mine being A314 x 2 dr + A7 x 1 dr this is good for attracting a woman of older mature age, however when TA is substituted for A314 the combo just does not seem to fire, therefore its back to the drawing doard to disect Mr A314 and try to reveal the charismatic ingredient X and possably Y and Z 🙄 The way I see it imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. What caught me was the copulins which I’m looking to experiment with. I saw really positive reviews on other sites regarding TA and I was considering giving it a try but based on your review I’m just gonna stick to the copulins and check out the electronic diffusers and soaps later [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-5-big-hitters-compared-mx292-vs-ammo-vs-a7-vs-te-npa-vs-pheroproof/25891.md?page=3)