# The Ammo, the A1, and the P83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 14, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742 "2010-04-14T18:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/1 "2010-04-14T18:59:52Z")
Ok so as promised I decided to do a test run of Ammo with A1 while at the same time adding more androstenone to the mix by using 1 spray of TUTH. The results, are as follows… **Products:** 2 sprays Ammo, 1.5 sprays TUTH, 1 spray A1(25mcgs) and 3 sprays P83(30mcgs) and 2 sprays [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x. **Self Effects:** Horny. Horny and confident. I had a real pep to my step but at the same time a feeling of total invincibility. **Effects on Others:** So I walk into my computer class and the girl that I’m cool with is there. I greet her and she talks to me for a while but then as class continued I noticed she continued to get more and more friendly. She would continue to show me pictures of stuff on the internet all through class and even when I got up to go back to my seat she would say “hey come look at this picture!” There was also a guy sitting next to her watching a video and when I went back over I made sure to place my hand on her chair and leaned over near her to see the guy’s video. She then starts leaning _very_ close to me and I’m sure she got a definite whiff of the TUTH because she was that close to my neck.😮 Later on in my last class I arrived late but we had a sub. At first I didn’t like the dude because he made a big deal about me having headphones in but as the class progressed he became much more friendlier with me. The class was actually very fun and ended having the whole class laughing at my jokes along with the subsitute who by this time had begun to lighten up. Afterward I see another girl I’m cool with (we’ll call her “C”). So I decide to stop her and start talking to her about the classes she’s taking. When I asked if the class was still open she said “it better be because I want you in there with me”😮. So anyway she asks me to walk her to her class and the convo is went good, had some sexual innuedo, and she hugged me (pretty tight) and we split. At least I thought so.🙄 30 minutes later I finish up this report I’d been working on in the school library and decide to drop it off to my teacher. I see that “C” is just getting out of class and she looks up from her phone and says “I was just texting you!”. She then asks if I’ll go with her to get some food and walk her around campus so I complied of course. Everything went great but while we walked around campus she asked where I was parked and even though I was parked on the other side of the grounds she almost went with me but I decided we could go to her car first and she could drop me off later. On the way to the parking lot a girl from my old school pulls up and we chat for a good 5 minutes which ended in her giving me her number.🆒(I’m still with “C” by the way). So I hop in the car, chat with her blah blah blah, and we end with me telling her I’ll hit her up later. **Conclusion** : Gotta say this was probably one of the BEST mixes I’ve ever worn. Granted, a lot of things certaintly fell into place for me today but even with that this mix was good. The sexaul talk from P83 and the comfort induced by A1 was apperent all day. Girls just seemed really comfortable with me today and conversations that shouldn’t have lasted long did. And yet sex continued to pop up today as well in conversations. Also, I didn’t really feel the TUTH in this mix much. I’m pretty sure it was there but it was buffered enough so that its effect wasn’t overpowering which is good. I’m going to remember this mix because it was certaintly effective and I think it would definitely be a good date or house party mix. So that’s it, I’m pulling out. ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/2 "2010-04-14T19:22:43Z")
Awesome report K 😃 Just gives more reasons to put p83 back in stock! I NEEED 😛 One question, how long have you known them? and just “as friends?” ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/3 "2010-04-14T19:29:31Z")
> [@seekingadvice](#): > > Awesome report K 😃 > > Just gives more reasons to put p83 back in stock! I NEEED 😛 > > One question, how long have you known them? and just “as friends?” Ah, good call SA, I should have mentioned this in the report. Me and “C” used to be real tight last semester until I got tired of her ways and just started talking to other girls. In the past few weeks I’ve talked to her a little more (wearing A-1 usually 😉) and today she really did a lot of things totally out of character. I was thinking she’d just leave but she made it a point to stick by me today. Oh and the other girl I met in the parking lot, we’ve just been strickly friends but I’ve always had that sense she liked me (I do like her sister 🆒) so I’m unsure about that but for her to just give me her number out of the blue… ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/4 "2010-04-14T19:37:19Z")
Uh-Oh options are tough K 😛 lol, guess it worked very well 😃 > [@K-Train](#): > > Me and “C” used to be real tight last semester until I got tired of her ways and just started talking to other girls. In the past few weeks I’ve talked to her a little more (wearing A-1 usually 😉) and today she really did a lot of things totally out of character. I was thinking she’d just leave but she made it a point to stick by me today. Your combo had a definite effect on her to a good extent 😉 I wonder how it would be without TUTH.. > [@K-Train](#): > > Oh and the other girl I met in the parking lot, we’ve just been strickly friends but I’ve always had that sense she liked me (I do like her sister 🆒) so I’m unsure about that but for her to just give me her number out of the blue… Yeah, I’m guessing that if before you were strictly friends and she never asked for your number, she is a more reserved type? but asking the number now out of the blue = BINGO! Nice formula, I bet you are going to try this out again, let me knoww how it goes 😉 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/5 "2010-04-14T19:45:36Z")
I’ve definitely noticed that ammo and A1 compliment each other very well. Good stuff K. ---
**Author:** ![andrw322](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@andrw322](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrw322)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/6 "2010-04-14T19:49:18Z")
well I did ammo testing a few days.First used 1 spray,nothing.2 sprays nothing.3 sprays nothing.when I put on 4 sprays today,I had a blatant hit..the hottie just kept staring at me and smiling.My mate talked to me a lot more and I believe guys at class were showing me more respect..had a few partial hits here and there. After this I guess I got an idea how its gonna work for me.IS didnt work,IO not much.Maybe I need more stronger stuff then.I am 19(will be 20) South asian..and most(around that age) have said less works best,but mine’s the opposite!! ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/7 "2010-04-14T20:50:24Z")
I’m _definitely_ thinking about trying this out again but unfortunately I’m car-less right now.☹ Hopefully I’ll be back on the road soon but for now I won’t be getting out for much testing minus work and some other stuff. By next week I should be back in the saddle. But from what I’ve seen today I can now understand why the Shocker Mix is so good. With A1 being the primary buffer and TUTH being under the radar you can pretty much run the table with a girl as long as you put yourself in the right position. I might try adding another spray of TUTH to see what that does though. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/8 "2010-04-14T21:04:47Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > I’m _definitely_ thinking about trying this out again but unfortunately I’m car-less right now.☹ Hopefully I’ll be back on the road soon but for now I won’t be getting out for much testing minus work and some other stuff. > > By next week I should be back in the saddle. But from what I’ve seen today I can now understand why the Shocker Mix is so good. **With A1 being the primary buffer and TUTH being under the radar you can pretty much run the table with a girl as long as you put yourself in the right position**. I might try adding another spray of TUTH to see what that does though. Exactly 🙂. It’s just enough buffer to prevent intimidation while still allowing full effectiveness of any -none and -erone. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/9 "2010-04-14T22:09:48Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Exactly 🙂. It’s just enough buffer to prevent intimidation while still allowing full effectiveness of any -none and -erone. I feel kinda bad that I’ve been reading your journal for 5 months and am just now figuring this out.☹ ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/10 "2010-04-14T22:21:31Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > I feel kinda bad that I’ve been reading your journal for 5 months and am just now figuring this out.☹ Haha, better late than never. I learned about the fallout effect first hand only a couple months ago and you had mentioned that a million times before too 😃 ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/11 "2010-04-14T22:41:22Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Haha, better late than never. I **learned about the fallout effect first hand** only a couple months ago and you had mentioned that a million times before too 😃 I remember that! If I’m not mistaken her name was also “C”?😮 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/12 "2010-04-14T22:53:23Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > I remember that! If I’m not mistaken her name was also “C”?😮 LOL yeah, what are the chances. Might be some foreshadowing for you to watch that A314 and A1 with your C 😉 ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/13 "2011-08-14T21:27:29Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Ok so as promised I decided to do a test run of Ammo with A1 while at the same time adding more androstenone to the mix by using 1 spray of TUTH. The results, are as follows… > > **Products:** 2 sprays Ammo, 1.5 sprays TUTH, 1 spray A1(25mcgs) and 3 sprays P83(30mcgs) and 2 sprays Instant Shine 2x. > > **Self Effects:** Horny. Horny and confident. I had a real pep to my step but at the same time a feeling of total invincibility. > > **Effects on Others:** So I walk into my computer class and the girl that I’m cool with is there. I greet her and she talks to me for a while but then as class continued I noticed she continued to get more and more friendly. She would continue to show me pictures of stuff on the internet all through class and even when I got up to go back to my seat she would say “hey come look at this picture!” > > There was also a guy sitting next to her watching a video and when I went back over I made sure to place my hand on her chair and leaned over near her to see the guy’s video. She then starts leaning _very_ close to me and I’m sure she got a definite whiff of the TUTH because she was that close to my neck.😮 > > Later on in my last class I arrived late but we had a sub. At first I didn’t like the dude because he made a big deal about me having headphones in but as the class progressed he became much more friendlier with me. The class was actually very fun and ended having the whole class laughing at my jokes along with the subsitute who by this time had begun to lighten up. > > Afterward I see another girl I’m cool with (we’ll call her “C”). So I decide to stop her and start talking to her about the classes she’s taking. When I asked if the class was still open she said “it better be because I want you in there with me”😮. So anyway she asks me to walk her to her class and the convo is went good, had some sexual innuedo, and she hugged me (pretty tight) and we split. At least I thought so.🙄 > > 30 minutes later I finish up this report I’d been working on in the school library and decide to drop it off to my teacher. I see that “C” is just getting out of class and she looks up from her phone and says “I was just texting you!”. She then asks if I’ll go with her to get some food and walk her around campus so I complied of course. Everything went great but while we walked around campus she asked where I was parked and even though I was parked on the other side of the grounds she almost went with me but I decided we could go to her car first and she could drop me off later. > > On the way to the parking lot a girl from my old school pulls up and we chat for a good 5 minutes which ended in her giving me her number.🆒(I’m still with “C” by the way). So I hop in the car, chat with her blah blah blah, and we end with me telling her I’ll hit her up later. > > **Conclusion** : Gotta say this was probably one of the BEST mixes I’ve ever worn. Granted, a lot of things certaintly fell into place for me today but even with that this mix was good. > > The sexaul talk from P83 and the comfort induced by A1 was apperent all day. Girls just seemed really comfortable with me today and conversations that shouldn’t have lasted long did. And yet sex continued to pop up today as well in conversations. > > Also, I didn’t really feel the TUTH in this mix much. I’m pretty sure it was there but it was buffered enough so that its effect wasn’t overpowering which is good. I’m going to remember this mix because it was certaintly effective and I think it would definitely be a good date or house party mix. > > So that’s it, I’m pulling out. 1 years as almost gone by is this still your favorite mix and have you tweek it ---
**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/14 "2011-08-14T22:13:29Z")
Hi, K-Train. Just curious… where do you get your A1 from? Do you notice any adverse self effects, like tiredness or a worse mood? Thanks. Talk to you soon. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/15 "2011-08-15T04:06:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Hi, K-Train. > > Just curious… where do you get your A1 from? Do you notice any adverse self effects, like tiredness or a worse mood? > > Thanks. > > Talk to you soon. Hey there. I get A1 from love-scent, about 50 bucks for the half-strength around 80 for the full-strength. As far the effects goes, it depends. Usually I become more withdrawn which is why I usually apply A1 away from my face. > [@](#): > > 1 years as almost gone by is this still your favorite mix and have you tweek it. Haven’t worn this mix in a while, I’ll have to retry it someday. But as of now, I’ve really been impressed with the “Obsessed Mix” which is a mixture of just A1 and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). It definitely gave me the more blatant hits, however I’ve ran out of A1 so it’ll be a while before I can use it again. ---
**Author:** ![Austinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@Austinn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Austinn)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/16 "2011-08-17T16:52:48Z")
K-Train, what strength, scent/scent-strength is the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) you are using? ---
**Author:** ![DotCom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dotcom/32/2152_2.png) [@DotCom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DotCom)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-ammo-the-a1-and-the-p83/37742/17 "2011-08-17T23:07:59Z")
Awesome post. I definitely have to agree with this combo: Ammo for the sexual edge, A1 for comfort, and P83 for the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) to snake their way into the minds of even the most stubborn ladies 😃 . Anyways solid work K Train