# The Androstenol Guide **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 28, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508 "2008-02-28T01:27:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BigMattDogg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bigmattdogg/32/1629_2.png) [@BigMattDogg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BigMattDogg)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/1 "2008-02-28T01:27:29Z")
Ok, so I’m still pretty new to the whole pheromone world but have really submerged myself in it. I have been reading a lot about androstenol as I do not yet own any Androstenol products yet. All you androstenol experts can and should go to town on this thread (that means you Gegogi). I was originally going to focus this thread on answering my own question (very selfish, I know), but I thought it would be better to help all the newbs, including myself. But first, my question: I have A314, Instant Shine, Ammo, and will get [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). I have been reading tons of threads about the differences between Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, and Come Talk to Me Mix 2. I understand the different solo effects and the differing -Androstenol and buffer presence. I want to try to avoid those descriptions. What I want to know is which one will work best for attraction and comfort building with women 19-28, factoring in mixing with the other pheromones I have? I want to create a mix in which the -Androstenol within the mix causes women to be more willing to talk to me and feel more comfortable around me when we are conversing…make me seem more approachable as well. If I only purchase one of the big three to mix, Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, CTTM, which one would would you guys recommend for the results I want? P.S. A few mix recommendations would be appreciated too 😛 Now for the newbs: Like I stated earlier, there are plenty of posts regarding the effects of the -nols by themselves. I think it would be a great tool if the newbs had some ideas on what androstenol products to use for their specific goals. So all you fellow newbs feel free to post specific goals you have for your androstenol (social) products. And all you -Androstenol gurus feel free to post scenario specific suggestions and mixes for the -Androstenol products. This is the first and only forum I have EVER joined, and I’m freaking hooked. This forum is the shizzle. ---
**Author:** ![tokyoraider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@tokyoraider](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tokyoraider)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/2 "2008-02-28T05:54:48Z")
> [@BigMattDogg](#): > > Ok, so I’m still pretty new to the whole pheromone world but have really submerged myself in it. I have been reading a lot about androstenol as I do not yet own any Androstenol products yet. All you androstenol experts can and should go to town on this thread (that means you Gegogi). I was originally going to focus this thread on answering my own question (very selfish, I know), but I thought it would be better to help all the newbs, including myself. > > But first, my question: I have A314, Instant Shine, Ammo, and will get Instant Female Magic. I have been reading tons of threads about the differences between Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, and Come Talk to Me Mix 2. I understand the different solo effects and the differing -Androstenol and buffer presence. I want to try to avoid those descriptions. What I want to know is which one will work best for attraction and comfort building with women 19-28, factoring in mixing with the other pheromones I have? I want to create a mix in which the -Androstenol within the mix causes women to be more willing to talk to me and feel more comfortable around me when we are conversing…make me seem more approachable as well. If I only purchase one of the big three to mix, Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, CTTM, which one would would you guys recommend for the results I want? > P.S. A few mix recommendations would be appreciated too 😛 > > Now for the newbs: Like I stated earlier, there are plenty of posts regarding the effects of the -nols by themselves. I think it would be a great tool if the newbs had some ideas on what androstenol products to use for their specific goals. So all you fellow newbs feel free to post specific goals you have for your androstenol (social) products. And all you -Androstenol gurus feel free to post scenario specific suggestions and mixes for the -Androstenol products. > This is the first and only forum I have EVER joined, and I’m freaking hooked. This forum is the shizzle. I’m pretty new to the whole scene too. I have had the best results of making women more comfortable with just 1x ammo. Instant shine and instant honesty also work great seperately. Shine and Honesty are not as potent as ammo, but seems to have some effects of lightening up the moods. Try those if you want to make women more comfortable, but ammo might do the trick for you too. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/3 "2008-02-28T05:58:13Z")
Personally I prefer alpha androstenol for making small talk. Beta is okay but doesn’t work as well for me. I know it’s supposed to enhance deep convo but you have to ask yourself “how much deep convo is a 19 year old capable of?” No amount of beta Androstenol gotta is unearth treasures that just ain’t there. Alpha is the best at creating a relaxed, friendly and talkative atmosphere, so I’d start there. It not so much what is said, but how you say it that’s important. Besides I get more deep shit at work to last me to the next millennium. Shallow bimbo speak is so refreshing! I also find alpha nol to be kickass at buffering androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![BigMattDogg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bigmattdogg/32/1629_2.png) [@BigMattDogg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BigMattDogg)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/4 "2008-02-28T21:01:05Z")
It sounds like I should grab the Come Talk to Me then Gegogi, because I would still like to have some Beta in my mix. Eventually I’d like to get to the point of mixing my own -nol concoctions. I know Come Talk to Me is unbuffered as opposed to the Instant lines. Have you had an issue with that, and what would you recommend to buffer it? [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? Also, I can’t seem to get many people to post on my threads. Do I have to put something about a stripper following me around in the title? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/5 "2008-02-28T22:56:59Z")
CTTM doesn’t need a buffer! No amount of Androstenol makes you appear threatening or overbearing. Makes you seem more friendly and agreeable. In fact CTTM is a great buffer for Turn Up The Heat, The Edge or NPA. But I’m still partial to alpha Androstenol. I tried to order Androtics Experimone alpha Androstenol but it was outta stock, so I picked up some Scent of Eros at LS. It’s nice to have Androstenol with both oil and alcohol carriers. I still have a little chemset nol left so I’ll try again in a few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/6 "2008-02-29T01:22:33Z")
BigMattDogg, if a stripper follows you around then h3ll yes, put it in the title. 😃 OK, I’m no guru but I’ll weigh in on androstenol since you’re so lonely. 🙂 I’m finding that I like to pair IO with heavy androsterone products like IG and A314. The IO seems to lighten the seriousness of androsterone. I experimented a while back with using TUTH and IH together as a daytime combo. It gave a very upbeat high energy vibe. As a stand alone -nol product I like CTTM2 better than either IO or IH. Down the road I want to get some high concentration alphanol and betanol and try mixing my own extra strength CTTM squared or cubed. I should also note that it took about 3 months of playing around with [pheromones](https://a314.com/) before I could tell any real difference between the three products. I kinda liked CTTM2 the best at that time because it seemed to work best by itself. One other thing, and I learned this from reading lots of Gegogi’s posts. The best thing a newbie (guy) can do is learn to work the big three -rone, -none, and -nols. Those three are the staples of pheromones. Everything else is seasoning. 😉 JMHO ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/7 "2008-02-29T02:23:34Z")
Yep, the holy trinity still tickles ma pickle. ---
**Author:** ![BigMattDogg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bigmattdogg/32/1629_2.png) [@BigMattDogg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BigMattDogg)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/8 "2008-02-29T03:22:11Z")
Word! I think that is great advice guys learning the “big three”. I kinda picked that up from reading these posts but its good you guys confirmed it. Oh, by the way, I got my first big hit last night, on just my third day of testing. Last minute my uncle wanted to go to the bar, so I threw on 1 spray of Ammo 1X and 2 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 1X. No good looking girls for the first 45 minutes in this local dive, then all of the sudden I’m outside in the patio with my uncle and a new girl walks out, and she is the hottest by far in the joint. A few of us talk with her for a little while, then my uncle goes back inside and then she does. I go back in after a few more minutes and shes sitting in the seat right next to my seat. Coincidence? As I approach my seat she starts talking to me before I even sit down! We wind up talking for like 2 hours and she got very touchy (sure the alky played a part). She invites me to meet her at this other bar tomorrow. Man, if you initiate and are interesting to the person, these pheros can really put you over the top. I’m lovin’ it. Oh, and I finally got a little self effects from IS ---
**Author:** ![Ryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryan/32/1528_2.png) [@Ryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ryan)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/9 "2008-02-29T06:13:23Z")
I’ll buy into this thread, amd good timing BigMattDogg - I just recieved an order of everything mentioned here 😃 I wanted to order [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 but it was out of stock, so I ended up buying bottles of Alpha Androstenol and Beta Androstenol instead. Sorry Gegogi I must have beat you to it 😛 I also just recieved bottles of Honesty, Openness and Gentleman 🆒 Thanks for the tips so far Geoggi and Renny, I’ll make good use of them. I’ve never used any of these products before but I will keep you’s updated as I go 😉 - Oh, is it true that CTTM2 is 50:50 Alpha-nol & Beta-nol, or are there other extras? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/10 "2008-02-29T23:14:59Z")
betanol seems to play a role in capturing attention - in a different way to 'none. ---
**Author:** ![DssMaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dssmaster/32/1686_2.png) [@DssMaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DssMaster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/11 "2008-03-15T06:00:41Z")
All this talk about Alpha and Beta -nols got me all confused as to what to get. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is suposed to get women more chatty and easier to start convos with them at clubs/bars etc… And Instant Honesty is suposed to make them chatty as well, and to have “deeper” convos with them, but would that be like them spilling their guts about their personal info kind of way? I need help cause I want to purchase one, and would like to know from your personal experiences what have you noticed on others while wearing each. Also there’s Spaceland which is an OD of -nols, but does not specify whether it’s Alpha or Beta. Also, which of the 3 would you say would be a great buffer for a heavy -none phero like NPA? ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/12 "2008-03-17T08:17:13Z")
> [@DssMaster](#): > > All this talk about Alpha and Beta -nols got me all confused as to what to get. Instant Openness is suposed to get women more chatty and easier to start convos with them at clubs/bars etc… And Instant Honesty is suposed to make them chatty as well, and to have “deeper” convos with them, but would that be like them spilling their guts about their personal info kind of way? I need help cause I want to purchase one, and would like to know from your personal experiences what have you noticed on others while wearing each. Also there’s Spaceland which is an OD of -nols, but does not specify whether it’s Alpha or Beta. > > Also, which of the 3 would you say would be a great buffer for a heavy -none phero like NPA? I like Spaceland. Its quite possibly my favorite product. It should almost be renamed “Superfly In A Bottle”…Infact, how about a 100 mcg/spray version called “Superfly In A Bottle”? I’d buy the first bottle to roll off the assembly lines.😃 ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/13 "2008-03-17T16:05:49Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > betanol seems to play a role in capturing attention - in a different way to 'none. Tater agrees. Beta-androstenol, alpha-androstenol, EST, IFM (androstadienone) and TAA seem to have different attraction methods. Try wearing heavy CTTM+IFM+hevay TAA+heavy EST. ---
**Author:** ![Jamie3500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Jamie3500](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jamie3500)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/14 "2008-03-17T18:32:58Z")
Hmm, now im interested. I would like to know if it is Alphanol or Betanol in Spaceland also before I purchase. I already have [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Openness but I want to experiment with the ‘fun’ effects of spaceland. So, which -Androstenol is in Spaceland? EDIT: cancel that, it says in the name “High Alpha-Androstenol”. So would a semi noob like me be allowed to purchase this? I will give feedback 😉 ---
**Author:** ![diablose94](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diablose94/32/1195_2.png) [@diablose94](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diablose94)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/15 "2008-03-17T19:00:44Z")
I have betanol oil, it seems to work well using it with A314. To think of it way back when I bought it, it was sold as a combo. So I know androtics meant for it to be used together. Presently, I think deeper conversation is more usful than surface conversation. Get to know the girl more, her real interests, what is **really** going on in her life, not just just the standard responses you might automatically give somebody that asks how are you doing? If you’ve every read “The Game” you know building rapport is essential to making a connection with someone. I think BetaNols can help one make that deeper connection. ---
**Author:** ![DssMaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dssmaster/32/1686_2.png) [@DssMaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DssMaster)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-androstenol-guide/9508/16 "2008-04-11T00:06:03Z")
Godhand, what are the effects you have noticed on those around you, specially the ladies, when wearing Spaceland? Do they become chatty right away? Are they much more easy to approach when wearing it? Please give some feedback, thanks…