# The Asian Phero Mix

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 16, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941 "2009-06-16T23:12:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/1 "2009-06-16T23:12:17Z")

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Ok so i’ve been testing out this phero mix that i’m gonna call the “asian mix” why you may ask? because every phero in the mix is designed to address something unique with asians. as you know from reading the forums, asians produce very low amounts of -none and have the lowest testosterone levels out of all males. so here’s my mix and my rationale for using the components:

1 shot of instant jerk to counteract the low -none  
1 shot of copulin mix to counteract the low testosterone  
2 shots of instant openness (i used this one because i do mostly cold approaches)

results so far: went out shopping for random stuff, got major eye contact almost “head turning” behavior from several ladies, couple of friendly conversations. in the hour i was out i could have easily gotten 3-5 numbers if i wanted to.

what do you guys think?

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**Author:** ![matthie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@matthie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matthie)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/2 "2009-06-17T01:26:06Z")

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1 shot of instant jerk to counteract the low -none  
1 shot of copulin mix to counteract the low testosterone  
2 shots of instant openness (i used this one because i do mostly cold approaches)

Instant jerk contains copulins, you know.  
Are you looking to present yourself as a bad boy?

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/3 "2009-06-17T03:31:34Z")

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> [@matthie](#):
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> 1 shot of instant jerk to counteract the low -none  
> 1 shot of copulin mix to counteract the low testosterone  
> 2 shots of instant openness (i used this one because i do mostly cold approaches)
> 
> Instant jerk contains copulins, you know.  
> Are you looking to present yourself as a bad boy?

very little copulins in my opinion too low for me, can barely feel the self effects. as far as the bad boy, eh not really, more like confident male

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/4 "2009-06-17T05:09:11Z")

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So you hear that bodybuilders? Put on some artificial female juice and get hugeeeeeee in the gym with that extra test boost!!! 🙄🆒

> [@meow333x](#):
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> 1 shot of copulin mix to counteract the low testosterone.

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/5 "2009-06-17T05:16:18Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> So you hear that bodybuilders? Put on some artificial female juice and get hugeeeeeee in the gym with that extra test boost!!! 🙄🆒

lol no i don’t think you’ll need it. personally i think the boost you get from cops is the same as working out at the gym for an hour.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/6 "2009-06-17T05:51:18Z")

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Meow, are you going after hetero females or bisexual females? Cause at the levels you wear cops, you’re going to get a lot of one night stands, hetero girls with low self esteem and bisexuals, I’m thinking.

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/7 "2009-06-17T14:28:54Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> Meow, are you going after hetero females or bisexual females? Cause at the levels you wear cops, you’re going to get a lot of one night stands, hetero girls with low self esteem and bisexuals, I’m thinking.

hetero females, i’ve tried diluting it down, but don’t get any effects from it. for some weird reason, i have to wear high doses of it.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/8 "2009-06-17T18:50:48Z")

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Copulins at SP strength on a man give very subtle result… I have said that a million and one times. It’s like the stuff you spray on a finished chalk drawing to set it… you can’t see the stuff having an effect, but it does.

what effects have you gotten from hetero girls wearing the current amounts? Because seriously, with those levels, you will tend to attract low self esteem hetero girls who are used to stabbing each other in the back to get a man and having strings of one night stands, and that’s not the best kind to attract.

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/9 "2009-06-17T21:14:34Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> Copulins at SP strength on a man give very subtle result… I have said that a million and one times. It’s like the stuff you spray on a finished chalk drawing to set it… you can’t see the stuff having an effect, but it does.
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> what effects have you gotten from hetero girls wearing the current amounts? Because seriously, with those levels, you will tend to attract low self esteem hetero girls who are used to stabbing each other in the back to get a man and having strings of one night stands, and that’s not the best kind to attract.

honestly i have attracted the more reserved hetero types, but i can’t really attribute that to the cops tho since i’ve always attracted that type i dunno man, but i’m goin dancin tonight so will report back with results

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/10 "2009-06-18T05:10:42Z")

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ok so i’m back from a night of dancing but guess what? nothin…two days of consistant results then the third just went flat. about the only thing that was different today than the two previous days was that today i put on the pheros, got in the car and drove for 30 min with the windows down in the texas sun, sweating and all, whereas the other two days i just sprayed and started coming in contact with women.

could the driving thing really have made that big a difference? yup it’s hot and humid in texas right now, but would this stuff really evaporate off that fast?

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/11 "2009-06-18T08:37:03Z")

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If you were sweating a lot then probably, they might’ve been also washed off a bit besides evaporating if it was _really_ that hot. I’m pretty anal with sprays too, even if the collar of sweaters or jackets touch my neck I feel like it might’ve rubbed some [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) off. Eh, so sometimes I try to keep my neck from being touched like a chicken fleeing from the farmer with the big knife.

> [@meow333x](#):
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> ok so i’m back from a night of dancing but guess what? nothin…two days of consistant results then the third just went flat. about the only thing that was different today than the two previous days was that today i put on the pheros, got in the car and drove for 30 min with the windows down in the texas sun, sweating and all, whereas the other two days i just sprayed and started coming in contact with women.
> 
> could the driving thing really have made that big a difference? yup it’s hot and humid in texas right now, but would this stuff really evaporate off that fast?

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/12 "2009-06-18T17:45:42Z")

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lol

RedLightSpecial  
3X-IJ  
2X-Amo  
4x-Shn  
2X-cttm2

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/13 "2009-06-18T19:54:32Z")

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> [@djandarial](#):
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> lol  
> RedLightSpecial  
> 3X-IJ  
> 2X-Amo  
> 4x-Shn  
> 2X-cttm2

Have you actually tried this combination before?

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/14 "2009-06-18T20:29:09Z")

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> [@metalTree](#):
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> Have you actually tried this combination before?

nope i don’t have any CTTM2 but dam that seems like a lot of sprays…won’t you be pissing people off with that much scent on?

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/15 "2009-06-21T02:09:13Z")

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decided to modify the mix today:  
1x jerk  
1x openness  
1x shine  
1x cops

approached 5 girls, no blatant ioi’s but small friendly chitchat in each case. the first girl was actually very disinterested but still had a convo. i’m beginning to think that the secret to the mix lies in balancing products that have self effects with those that have external effects.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/16 "2009-06-21T08:17:28Z")

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> [@meow333x](#):
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> decided to modify the mix today:  
> 1x jerk  
> 1x openness  
> 1x shine  
> 1x cops
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> approached 5 girls, no blatant ioi’s but small friendly chitchat in each case. the first girl was actually very disinterested but still had a convo. i’m beginning to think that the secret to the mix lies in balancing products that have self effects with those that have external effects.

I agree with this. The self-effects are just as valuable as the effects on others. It’s also important to find the balance of social vs sexual to keep a woman’s interest. I think it’s important to get as sexual as possible without coming across as a horndog.

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/17 "2009-06-22T09:22:58Z")

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wanted to try going crazy today so i doubled everything:  
2x jerk  
2x shine  
2x open  
2x cops

results: not a whole lot. started a convo with two girls at the grocery store that were really not that interested.  
i think i need to go back to the original mix tomorrow

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/18 "2009-06-23T02:05:41Z")

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day 3 of testing…put the original mix back in…man very interesting results:

hadn’t had much sleep so felt like ass but went to grocery store right after application.  
-first girl i approched was with her mom, i ended up dropping the f bomb and they both just laughed…dam…cussin in front of a young girl with her mom present and gettin away with it? whoa  
-approached two other girls, just small chitchat no ioi’s one was with boyfriend, still no rejection.  
-got eye contact from a rather plump young girl…not my thing didn’t persue it  
-saw a female friend, she was very talkative and friendly

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/19 "2009-06-24T03:12:19Z")

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decided to modify the mix once again..  
1x jerk  
1x open  
1x honesty  
1x cops

weird stuff started to happen, i was with my lesbian friend…yah she’s the butch kind. was driving in the car and girl walking down the street made eye contact with me for 5 seconds..it happened again with another girl as soon as we got out of the restaurant we ate at. there is no way either of these girls could have smelled me. but i was with a female so overall this doesn’t mean anything to me except and in terest to try this mix again.

edit: my buddy called he..this is the biggest player i’ve ever known in my life. invites me over for beer. i reapply the mix since it’s been over six hours. i show up it’s only him, me, and his roomate. he’s on the phone playing text games with this girl that’s given him a hard time. he asks me for advice. weird..usually this is the guy we go to for advice not the other way around. he finally makes gets somewhere with the girl, i walk out and he invites me to go out thursday nite. i’ve known this guy for a year and this is the first time i’ve gotten this invitation.

2nd edit: i felt really good after applying this mix…like a didn’t give a shit in the world…oddly enough my voice was a little deeper too.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/20 "2009-06-24T04:03:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> meow purrs, “could the driving thing really have made that big a difference? yup it’s hot and humid in texas right now, but would this stuff really evaporate off that fast?”

I live in hot 'n humid Hawaii. I’ve gotten very consistent results wearing mones on bare skin when I’m primarily in strong AC, e.g., at work. Step outside, sweat for 30 minutes and that carefully composed mix has evolved into something all together different. For me, it’s a more aggressive badass vibe, I suspect from increased androstenone content. I wear a lot of straight androstenol and, when exposed to skin bacteria and sweat, androstenol breaks down to androstenone. So I don’t think your sweat “washed off” the mones or it evaporated but, instead, it began to break it down to other compounds and intermingled with your natural mones. In other words, it became a totally different mix.

For the above reason, I carry a Sephora atomizer loaded with alpha androstenol to refresh myself before I step into a bar, party or whatever. The other thing that helps is to at least apply some of the dose to clothing and hair. Bacteria breakdown is much slower and you still have plenty of heat dissipation in hot climates. If you prefer “fixer-uppers,” they’ll find ya but not just because you’re wearing an extra helping of cops. In my line of work and social realm most women have the opposite problem…

Back in the day I played with EW a lot in straight form, medium diluted and highly diluted. Also incorporated it into most of my fav mixes with SOE, A314, NPA, Chikara, etc. I found no evidence of attracting “low self-esteem” women, bisexuals or women mainly interested in one-nighters. Just the average cross-section of women I normally run with. I think CatLordie’s comments may be based on his own personal experiences and are not necessarily the norm. The kind of women you attract are mainly a factor of your social status, persona and personal preferences.

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