# The Asian Phero Mix **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 16, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941 "2009-06-16T23:12:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/21 "2009-06-24T06:12:01Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I live in hot 'n humid Hawaii. I’ve gotten very consistent results wearing mones on bare skin when I’m primarily in strong AC, e.g., at work. Step outside, sweat for 30 minutes and that carefully composed mix has evolved into something all together different. For me, it’s a more aggressive badass vibe, I suspect from increased androstenone content. I wear a lot of straight androstenol and, when exposed to skin bacteria and sweat, androstenol breaks down to androstenone. So I don’t think your sweat “washed off” the mones or it evaporated but, instead, it began to break it down to other compounds and intermingled with your natural mones. In other words, it became a totally different mix. > > For the above reason, I carry a Sephora atomizer loaded with alpha androstenol to refresh myself before I step into a bar, party or whatever. The other thing that helps is to at least apply some of the dose to clothing and hair. Bacteria breakdown is much slower and you still have plenty of heat dissipation in hot climates. If you prefer “fixer-uppers,” they’ll find ya but not just because you’re wearing an extra helping of cops. In my line of work and social realm most women have the opposite problem… > > Back in the day I played with EW a lot in straight form, medium diluted and highly diluted. Also incorporated it into most of my fav mixes with SOE, A314, NPA, Chikara, etc. I found no evidence of attracting “low self-esteem” women, bisexuals or women mainly interested in one-nighters. Just the average cross-section of women I normally run with. I think CatLordie’s comments may be based on his own personal experiences and are not necessarily the norm. The kind of women you attract are mainly a factor of your social status, persona and personal preferences. yah thanks man for all the info…man i wish these things came in oils too, it just gets ridiculous reapplying several times a day. what makes a sephora atomizer special tho? and as far as the cops…i really don’t wear them for the attraction, i like the self effects. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/22 "2009-06-24T07:23:56Z")
You’re lucky. I wish I could compartmentalize that way. I need cops on a hot woman to enjoy any self effects. The little sliver Sephora atomizer imparts a highly misted spray, unlike the mighty zap from a togo. Plus it is virtually leak proof and has a hidden inter reservoir. The metal exterior gives it a precision tool feel. Ah dunno, the togo is like a Cheap Powershot whereas the Sephora is a Leica M8. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/23 "2009-06-24T07:29:01Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > You’re lucky. I wish I could compartmentalize that way. how do you mean? ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/24 "2009-06-25T04:42:03Z")
wanted to try out instant gentlemen today… so substituted IG for jerk and man i felt horrible…grouchy and irritable..got some eye contact but the feeling of wanting to rip apart a teddy bear isn’t worth it to me..bad combo. later that night went dancing again…went back to the original mix..put it on in the car this time right before going into the club…got interesting eye contacts from several ladies…interestingly enough about 30mins later the same ladies that were giving me eye contact were now dismissing me…dam this stuff converts really fast. someone told me it was 104 degrees today…i can’t wait for winter to come around. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/25 "2009-06-25T04:54:11Z")
Here’s a tip for you, I haven’t tried it my self but _supposedly_ friendly bacteria on your skin turns AndrostaDIENOL into Androstenol. So, this could be another option for having a good supply of Androstenol always at hand without having to actually reapply. Now as mentioned, I haven’t tried it my self but it claims to turn into Androstenol thanks to friendly bacteria on your skin, so AndrostaDIENOL could be another option. > [@meow333x](#): > > wanted to try out instant gentlemen today… > so substituted IG for jerk and man i felt horrible…grouchy and irritable..got some eye contact but the feeling of wanting to rip apart a teddy bear isn’t worth it to me..bad combo. > > later that night went dancing again…went back to the original mix..put it on in the car this time right before going into the club…got interesting eye contacts from several ladies…interestingly enough about 30mins later the same ladies that were giving me eye contact were now dismissing me…dam this stuff converts really fast. someone told me it was 104 degrees today…i can’t wait for winter to come around. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/26 "2009-06-25T04:58:30Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Here’s a tip for you, I haven’t tried it my self but _supposedly_ friendly bacteria on your skin turns AndrostaDIENOL into Androstenol. So, this could be another option for having a good supply of Androstenol always at hand without having to actually reapply. Now as mentioned, I haven’t tried it my self but it claims to turn into Androstenol thanks to friendly bacteria on your skin, so AndrostaDIENOL could be another option. cool idea but what about all the other stuff that’s in the mix? like betanol and the buffers…after sweating for 30 mins all that must turn into a shit soup on your skin ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/27 "2009-06-25T06:33:51Z")
Not sure, but if that’s your fear then that must be a fear with all MX’s and not just your own mix, everything has to breakdown into something eventually or turn to “shit soup.” Shit happens, so might as well just wipe it off with a portable peroxide wipe (or alcohol wipe/Witch Hazel wipe on the fly) and start fresh with a fresh application. > [@meow333x](#): > > cool idea but what about all the other stuff that’s in the mix? like betanol and the buffers…after sweating for 30 mins all that must turn into a shit soup on your skin ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/28 "2009-06-25T17:48:37Z")
I agree with mikito, but disagree with the witch hazel… After having used PS, Peroxide (HPO) is really the only thing that actually kills the scent package as well as the phero’s ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/29 "2009-06-25T19:59:50Z")
Convenient too, they have peroxide wipes as mentioned. I saw them at a Walgreens, but I’m sure any drugstore might have them. > [@djandarial](#): > > I agree with mikito, but disagree with the witch hazel… After having used PS, Peroxide (HPO) is really the only thing that actually kills the scent package as well as the phero’s ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/30 "2009-06-25T21:23:21Z")
hydrogen peroxide wipes…thanks for the info… another report..today i decided to try ammo… application: 1x to chest, 1x to arm, 1x to other arm… didn’t come across any women but this one guy at work that doesn’t get along with me talked to me all day long…very out of place for him. oh and i like the smell i have no idea why people are bitching about the smell..it smells good to me. edit: i applied the original mix over the ammo..it’s been six hours so the ammo is prolly gone. anyways went to walmart afterwards..as usual ridiculous eye contact..just fleeting for a second kind but still. at one point i got 3 eye contacts in under 2 seconds. only one i talked to was girl in front of me in checkout line..she was eager to talk. after checkout went to atm this hot girl was sitting with her bf but she gave me made eye contact with me for several seconds, i smiled, she smiled back…dam ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/31 "2009-06-27T20:48:57Z")
my internets been down so i’ll make two reports: friday: wanted to try ammo again…put 3 sprays to chest and 2 IO to forearms…results not what i liked…got depressed really fast. second time its happened with ammo. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/32 "2009-06-27T20:52:18Z")
today wanted to give ammo one more try…put one spray to chest, covered with one spray of IS then repeated for both forearms… didn’t get the depressive effect which was good. went out to coffee house…got some get out of my way disinterested eye contacts from chicks..but a guy friend just invited me to a huge party tonight..once again ammo has had some very good effects on guys around me but nothing for girls. i think i will stick to the instant jerk..it’s given me the best results so far..the only thing i haven’t tried out in the instant line is turn up the heat..which i will get a chance to do tonight 🙂 edit: spoke too soon looks like after about 2 hours the depressive effects kicked in again.. thank god it eventually wore off. later..applied TUTH to forearms got good convo with 2 girls at grocery store…but i was with another girl so it doesn’t count…definitely worth testing further ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/33 "2009-06-29T21:49:23Z")
took yesterday off from pheros. today wanted to try TUTH again. so i put on the whole mix, but substituted TUTH 2x to arms instead of jerk. went to the store and nothing…gonna try again tonight. edit: ok forget TUTH, i went back to the original mix…went to walmart again to get some tp, it’s midnight so not much people there. got mad iois from this one young chick, and the usual eye contact from lots more people. i gotta say this mix has really far outperformed my expectations of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). i really think that this is the keeper for me. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/34 "2009-07-01T03:37:46Z")
decided to make things convenient today…tried to make my own mix..key word is tried lol. put 2 parts IO, 1 part jerk, and 1 part cops in a spray bottle, put on 4 sprays and went to walmart again…first thing i noticed was the smell: all together the 3 smells like cheap clearance cologne. as far as effects, it was better than nothing but not nearly as effective as having put them together separately. i would say this “all-in’one” mix gave me like 40% of what it’s supposed to. ---
**Author:** ![Action\_Jackson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@Action\_Jackson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Action_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/35 "2009-07-01T05:01:17Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > If you were sweating a lot then probably, they might’ve been also washed off a bit besides evaporating if it was _really_ that hot. I’m pretty anal with sprays too, even if the collar of sweaters or jackets touch my neck I feel like it might’ve rubbed some pheromone off. Eh, so sometimes I try to keep my neck from being touched like a chicken fleeing from the farmer with the big knife. lol…I go through the same exact thing. I gotta keep the application process perfect or else I’m not satisfied. Don’t want the stuff to get on my collar or run down my shirt. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/36 "2009-07-02T03:34:45Z")
so for the next couple of days i’m going to test the importance of each component in the mix by leaving it out… tonight i left out instant jerk and just put on the instant opennes plus cops mix. results: self effects area the most noticible..this gives me that slow swagger and confidence. in terms of others, went to walmart as usual…got the head turning eye contact thing. so these two things are the head turners. but i didn’t get the vertical gaze or that extra half second of eye contact that signals more than just “i saw you”. so i think this accounts for 80% of the effects of the total mix. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/37 "2009-07-03T03:22:05Z")
today used the original mix, but diluted cops to 1/2 strength, then went to heb, nothing notable happened. also running very low on IO, placed an order for 2x strength with mx292. later on, took a shower, put on the original mix in all it’s full strength glory, went out to walmart(yes i go there alot cause it’s right next door to me) and got the usual eye contacts from the ladies, not as crazy as before but could have something to do with the foul mood i’m in. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/38 "2009-07-04T02:08:57Z")
while i’m waiting for more instant openness to arrive i decided to try out instant gentleman by itself which was a free gift so i thought what the hey. put on 2 sprays and went to walmart to get some chicken and movies. got ioi’s from two chicks, one of them was a busted teeth redneck which i talked to. it’s cool, but nothing like the mix. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941/39 "2009-07-04T12:54:47Z")
another instant gentleman report: it’s 4th of july, 8 in the morning, i put on 2 sprays of IG and went to HEB to get some water. the guy behind me in line starts to talk to me, he was drunk off his ass. i thought to myself “shit, not another drunk fratboy” then he pulls out his card, turns out he’s in the armed forces, a corporal on leave. and then he invites me to go tubing with him. i politely turn him down, i already have stuff to do today, too much stuff to do. respect? yes. but also keep in mind that he was drunk. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-phero-mix/29941.md?page=1)