# The best mones to pick for guys who want to remain a challenge? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 12, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001 "2013-09-12T12:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 31
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001/31 "2013-09-17T10:39:40Z")
Androtics stopped selling MEO and EST some time ago. I don’t remember the reason. Moreover, we really don’t have longitudinal studies to tell us what happens when people use products for 20 years. I’ve found that P75 positively alters libido, natural pheromone output and generally makes me feel more Alpha in all aspects of my life. I’m not expecting P75 or A314 to get me laid. I’m expecting them to make me a better, more confident man. I don’t think history’s great leaders much cared about buffering anything. That’s why they were leaders. Women are very much attracted to the manly _power_ and _confidence_, but pheromones can’t be expected to be sex in a bottle. TV shows and daily life are replete with examples of brutish male loser pigs hooked up with all sorts of women, despite their utterly hideous and seemingly unattractive demeanor. And I’m puzzled by those spending **$1000’s** in different mones from every company, in search of the **elusive** magic elixir. I submit the problem lies _within_ rather than without. I think we may be confusing what **we** think women think and what _they_ actually report. “Mmmmmm…that smells [grabbed it back from my hand] - this one is complex. I feel like, the person wearing this could protect me. I’m all giggly and girly, it makes me want to wear a dress. You should wear this one by itself around [girl of interest]. But not at work. Definitely not at work, it’s too flirty.” (It also made her pupils dilate and she was blushing.) > [@SomeoneOrNot's irresponsibly updated journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263): > > I doubt that I am consistent enough to actually make this worthy of the title “journal” but I figured I may as well have a place to collect my observations on all these new compounds I’m going to be investigating. So I received TAA today via FedEx. After getting out of the shower I applied a 7.5 mcg spray to my chest. I have heard of people saying it makes them smile, makes people around them happy, etc…I don’t know that it necessarily makes me smile exactly, but it makes me feel somewhat simil… These are the results I’ve always gotten. You may find women talk about you. That’s what happens with me. It’s difficult for many men to be congruent with it. It’s intimidating and somewhat military-like. You have to approach, be confident and act the part. You’re wearing basically a General Patton mone. Some alpha women dig it. Many don’t. I could care less about the don’ts. Their meekness bores me. Like me, hate me, or f **k off…75 helped me grow a pair and wise up to female bulls** t tests. Fact is, being not needy…being able to wait a week to text or call back, it puts you in **control**. As far as I’m concerned 314 and P75 are the quintessential alpha mones, but I’m always open to superior alternative products. I like to test and report on experimental molecules. People disinterested in that should \*\*avoid \*\*_putatives_. I’m familiar with Steve’s products. I test the items believed to be similar to his labels. It’s not for everyone. Finally…what can I say. Everyone **wants** to be _Alpha_. Everyone the chief, nobody the Indian. The leader leads. He is somewhat controversial, creative, out front. He prefers to call the tune instead of dancing to it. He may be visionary and misunderstood–even mocked (Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, Abe Lincoln, George Washington). He suffers countless setbacks yet refuses to capitulate. Those expecting any pheromone to do the work of **making** you Alpha are being duped. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001)._