# The best mones to pick for guys who want to remain a challenge? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 12, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001 "2013-09-12T12:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 42
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001/42 "2013-09-20T07:56:45Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > So far I’ve found nothing that beats Steves Evolvexs for me.. I do like IS AMMO and its great for attracting blondes , however, it doesn’t have enough none to make them horny whereas evolve packs 20 mcg none. IS AMMO is polite mans formula.. Evolve is STEALTH man’s formula. Have you ever used 20 mcg raw None? It is still hella potent. Not saying high-none products can’t be effective. Do you understand the molecules in Steve’s line? Isn’t easy to directly copy what I feel are custom-engineered Androtics experimentals. People like Steve can mimic effects but not always exact formulas. Many of XS mimic TAC, [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and -eNone. The first two provide comfort for females and buffer male aggression. Call him and ask him. It’s the Androstanone/None pair with T A C to make the None simmer and slow-burn. Throw in some P83, TAA, beta nol or P74. It’s ICM man. MX301-304. Not saying he knows exactly what molecules these are. He duplicated effects by personal testing. He boosted ICM with another molecule. If they had done that with MX301, it would have worked better. Both Steve and Androtics are well aware. Which is why I use 75, TAK and “TAX” to steer combos and A314. People buy androstanone elsewhere and cross-test it vs. P75. People _don’t agree totally they match_. Just **similar**. I keep telling you TAC will make women more **relaxed** around you, as will TAK. It calms anxiety. > [@Is ICM the MX301, MX302, MX303, MX304 Test Pack ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-icm-the-mx301-mx302-mx303-mx304-test-pack/31340/6): > > The MX301-MX304 were originally the recipes below that Steve generously released to the forum. They were eventually consolidated into the MX301-304. The point behind the MX series is for us to test them and give feedback to Androtics as to how we and those around us react. What they are looking for is blind feedback which is why they don’t tell us which MX is which. I’ve made ICM ICM 0.25.1a and 1b which I believe are now MX301 and MX302 but don’t quote me on that. ICM 0.25.05a [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) 4 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per … --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001)._