# The best mones to pick for guys who want to remain a challenge? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 12, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001 "2013-09-12T12:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 56
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001/56 "2013-09-23T16:29:07Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > I’ve decided I’m going to make myself a pocket guide for all the pheromones in my collections. On each page will be at least one or two quotes from monesmadedoit… Here’s another. No extra charge. 😃 People often overlook the fact that putatives (and even perhaps the molecules listed in the ExperiMone section aren’t promised to be stuff naturally on the skin. I can’t remember if DHEA S is on the skin. -eNone is on the skin. As I recall, it’s poorly soluble in water. The purpose of sulfation is to take the DHEA and make it soluble in urine. The same would be true of saliva. Imagine if [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) does not occur on the skin naturally at all. How would people react if they smell a mone that came from saliva or urine. If the brain has receptors, it would react. But it would be freaky, alien stuff. The brain has opiate receptors. It will react to the opium poppy. But something like an opioid oxycodone hits the same receptors but never existed until man made it. P75 is like LSD, hella potent at just micrograms. So, apparently, we’ve evolved to respond to women’s pee. Note that sulfates are very heavy and highly electronegative molecules. I’ve never been crystal clear what impact that has on mixes. However, DHEAS is heavier than androstenone. Oxygen is a way bigger atom than hydrogen. More electrons. More charges. Look at the pics and see if you don’t think the little hydrogens in alpha nol, for example, get tugged quite a bit by the much bigger Oxygen. Fat chance finding any science discussion about that online! > **[File:Sulfato de dehidroepiandrosterona3D.png](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sulfato_de_dehidroepiandrosterona3D.png)** > > http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.enCC0Creative Commons Zero, Public Domain Dedicationfalsefalse > Click on a date/time to view the file as it appeared at that time. > You cannot overwrite this file. The following page uses this file: > **[File:3D model hydrogen bonds in water.svg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:3D_model_hydrogen_bonds_in_water.svg)** > > Click on a date/time to view the file as it appeared at that time. > You cannot overwrite this file. The following 7 pages use this file: > The following other wikis use this file: > [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/8): > > They’re newer than new and more beta than beta. In the world of pheromones, they’re suspects. When looking for new pheromones, we look for clues like: Structure Human like odor Position in the metabolic chain (end chain is more likely to be a pheromone; many pheromones are akin to hormonal waste to go on to serve a new life as a pheromone once excreted) Prescence in axillary hair (underarm and pubic), skin, urine and/or saliva (all likely areas to emit pheromones) All putatives have indicat… --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-best-mones-to-pick-for-guys-who-want-to-remain-a-challenge/60001)._