# The Bitch and Gripe Thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-bitch-and-gripe-thread/27111>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [March 16, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-bitch-and-gripe-thread/27111 "2009-03-16T06:43:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-bitch-and-gripe-thread/27111/1 "2009-03-16T06:43:57Z")

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Hey folks, I’ve been around for awhile now and I’ve met a lot of incredible people. I’ve also seen a number of truly awesome people disappear into the sunset, and several of them starting to come back.

In the last couple of months though I’ve also seen more negativity and complaining than we’d ever had here. All at a time when Androtics is doing some truly amazing things, releasing some incredible experimentals and trying to balance taking care of us, working toward releasing a commercial retail product, while at the same time fighting off attacks from all angles.

So I propose that anyone and everyone who has something to bitch or gripe about take the time to list out their grievances here, then let them go.

Then I propose that Steve or Tisha delete the thread in a month or two and lets all get back to being the suportive awesome group of people that I’ve grown to love and consider as a second family.

And for those of you that want to carry on the negativity and griping about every little thing, know that when you’ve had your fill and go the way of some of the other valued and loved members, the rest of us will miss you and will look forward to the day you decide come back and give the rest of us another chance, with a fresh new outlook.

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-bitch-and-gripe-thread/27111/2 "2009-03-16T15:52:40Z")

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I think the B&G is just because there are so many changes going on at Androtics and in the forum. It’s a time of growth and change at a time when outside forces are making many of us uncomfortable in our non-phero lives. If ya can’t B&G around your “second family” who can ya B&G around?

For the people who can’t hack the growth and change, all we can really do is go Motel 6 and leave the light on for them. Remember too that we all take breaks from time to time, not everyone who stops posting is gone.