# The Denied Journal

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 13, 2008, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-denied-journal/12571 "2008-05-13T12:02:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Denied](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denied/32/1018_2.png) [@Denied](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Denied)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-denied-journal/12571/46 "2008-06-09T12:04:22Z")

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Come Talk To Me

Ok, here it is…

The Idea behind Mixing my own CTTM came fast as i had a Instant Honesty 4x and no [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)

Most of you will know the following facts:

IO is 70% Alphanol and 30% Betanol  
IH is vice versa 70% Betanol and 30% Alphanol

Come Talk To Me Mix 2 is 50% Beta and 50% Alphanol BUT: The Betanol in the original CTTM2 Mix is a littler “harsher” then that in IH.

See here

> [@Mixing CTTM2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-cttm2/12565/12):
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> Beta Androstenol unmodified can be harsh on your senses and emotions according to MH posts on it. I personally find it messes with my equalibrium if I dont buffer it with something. Emotions seem to swing more.
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> People talk more with CTTM but it seems more just for the sake of talking there is no real connection it feels unnatural. When I use Instant Honesty and Instant Openness together it feels more comfortable smoother natural.
> 
> You may have noticed I rarely recommend CTTM anymore. I have used it and have seen that yes it works but till recently I could not place why I felt so out of sorts with it on. Then I bought a bottle of raw Beta Androstenol and now I know why.
> 
> This may not be the case for every user, we are all different. There are some very good reports with CTTM so you have to look at your needs and decide if its something you want to try.
> 
> Tisha

So i bought a IO 2x mostly becourse there wasn´t a 4x availible and Spaceland is smelling to funky.

So here comes my mix for a 30ml Bottle of self mixed CTTM  
But this isn´t the real CTTM2. It has a little different Betanol.

So i need a new Name. Easy: **Come Talk to Me Mix 3**  
After all it is a homebrew Testmix.  
Basicly mix IO and IH 1:1

I have an IO 2x and a IH 4x so my 30ml mix was:

20ml IO 2x  
10ml IH 4x

The cool thing is… you´ll get a **double strength Version**

EDIT: It is way better to go with a 5ml Togo bottle. So my mix is:

3,3 ml IO 2x  
1,7 ml IH 4x

Report:

Hm. As far as i can tell i get really goofy with IO and i talk away to much information of myself with IH

This mix is like combining IH an IO and it works better for me than the standard products. Doesn´t make me goofe and i haven´t noticed being to easy with private information. 🆒

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