# The Edge vs AMMO **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 3, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349 "2011-01-03T06:30:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/21 "2011-01-14T16:19:30Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > UNLESS they improve the formulas … NOTHING … can replace TE or NPA. No matter what comes out … those two will be in my tool box for-eva! 🆒 > > I have **50:50 of TUTH:TE** , **4:1 TUTH:NPA** and **3:1:1 TUTH:NPA:IJ** w/cops in TO-GO bottles for those special _ **TARZAN AND JANE** _ nights. 😉 > > Put on your favorite mix, and spray ONE spray of TE to the crotch of your pants on your next night out! Absolutely M&M … When it comes to the nasty things nothing can replace TheEdge 🆒 Pago ---
**Author:** ![m0ses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@m0ses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m0ses)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/22 "2011-01-18T06:09:21Z")
Haven’t used IJ or TUTH yet so I can’t really compare at the moment. Got so much testing with so many different products to do. I did feel that I never really mastered TE, I was lucky a few times with it and very unlucky other times. Always thought I was just ODing on the stuff. After I get a better handle of the pile of stuff I have to test I’ll go back and do some more work with TE or NPA. I certainly feel like they are far harder to use successfully than AMMO, which was pretty easy to get good consistent results with. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/23 "2011-01-31T03:37:58Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I sometimes use AMMO Double Strength. 2 or 3 zaps and the effects are more akin to a slightly polite AE. Of course you can just use regular Ammo and use 4-6 zaps if you can stand the cologne reek… I can’t understand how anyone can use 4-6 sprays of 1 strength ammo. The reek of 3 sprays is bad enough with ff21. Even of ammo didn’t OD at 4-6 sprays I wonder if women would run from the smell!!??? Sounds like heavily none loaded NPA or high dosed edge is the ticket for you. I wish it was so cut and simple for me, i.e. use low none products or use high none but it isn’t as with most guys. I get problems from inhaling the crap be it the none, secrets ingredients, or even the cologne. Just curious people have always said a314 lets you use more edge , would it also let you use more ammo without oD? dsouza ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/24 "2011-01-31T19:06:27Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I agree comparing Ammo and Edge is like comparing dogs and cats they are just two different animals. > > I wouldn’t call AMMO sexual, Its sexy though and there is a difference. > > Sexy is a vibe you emit that says something about you on a whole. > > Sexual is just a feeling you get > > I find TUTH or Edge or any less buffered anone product makes me think more about wanting to have sex. You get that “hot and bothered” feeling. That itch that needs to be scratched feeling. Now this doesn’t necessarily mean I am attracted to you because your setting off that response with your pheromones. It just means I’m horny and thanks to you my hubby is getting lucky tonight. Dont wait for a thank you card he wont send one LOL. You have to create some pull to you. > > Even when guys wear to much which can make some women cranky you still get that “god I need to get laid” feeling. Its just a horny bitch feeling LOL. > > AMMO is buffered, less intense. Its a mild arousal, a little tingle that says “hey there is a guy worth getting to know in more ways then one” it seems to zero more in on the person the impulse or feeling is coming from as well. > > The added anol creates more pull. Some men need that pull and some men like Gegogi naturally create that pull so using the edge alone will do it for him. 😉 > > Tisha I’m afraid after experimenting with Ammo and Edge I have to concur with Gegogi that ammo is a dud. #1 all it gets me is polite vibe. Soon as I go for more than polite I get shot down. I tried phone numbers, asking women out for coffee, lunch etc just doesn’t do it. they find excuses to shut me out. Its as if maybe I don’t vibe with too polite as I come across wimpy. I was wearing ammo IS and that’s what happened. #2 edge is hit or miss. When it works it works. I find I can make a lot more technical errors in my gameplan and still get results (flirtation, phone numbers, 10’s chasing me). these same 10’s think I’m desparate when wearing ammo/is because I talk to much and come on too strong. I ordered A314 but I wonder if it will even help the mix… Personally edge always makes me act like the man when it hits. I’m congruent with it. the problem is it makes me look like a jerk. My facial expressions become tense with it. I haven’t learned how to tame the beast. How do I know this is not coincidence. I’ve had edge work on the same 10/10 girl that tells me she’ll be in a new position and on probation for 6 months in her new company so not to visit when wearing ammo /is. The truth is edge is voodoo juice. Women will fall off the bang wagon if they’re horny enough. With ammo they are in full self control. Tuth is no better. It has no magical effects its just anone. Edge has secret ingredients and I think these ingredients create a pull to women to get horny and get horny now. If only I could find a way to make edge more consistent for me it would be perfect. With edge if your around the same girl all the time and flirt with her eventually she will get HORNY and want SOMETHING out of you be it a phone number, date etc. Without hormones her rational brain is making all decisions or her feelings. Anyone else agree with this particular opinion? I am not saying ammo is not worth it for guys great at charima, but if your not great at it your better of playing a bad boy and waiting till the woman is horny enough to take things further. Maybe I am just more congruent with edge. They say it works on blacks, spanish ,and indians initially. if only I could get rid of my angry face and tense facial muscles it causes when I inhale it or when the pheromones reach OD by accident. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/25 "2011-01-31T21:49:22Z")
You’re not trying hard enough. Get over your self-effects with Ammo, and act like a regular guy, and _then_ you’ll see results. Trust me, it’s really good stuff! That said, I’m too afraid to try Edge, 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/26 "2011-01-31T22:46:09Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > You’re not trying hard enough. Get over your self-effects with Ammo, and act like a regular guy, and _then_ you’ll see results. Trust me, it’s really good stuff! > > That said, I’m too afraid to try Edge, 😉 The thing is it doesn’t work for him and most likely it never will. You are right about the self-effects, but that’s something not everybody is capable or willing to do and there is nothing wrong with that. Of course there are other ways to do it like TUTH, IJ or even getting it custom scented less or with Neroli less. I’m not a cologne guy myself, as I have widely reported, and as such not a fan of Ammo in its new iteration. However I was also advantageous enough to have experienced it with the original Ammo scent and Game. If it wasn’t for that I would totally be able to say yeah I agree with yah here on the scent. However because it was the most consistent product I have ever used of pheromones since I started in 92, I make an exception to the smell. I get over it because I know how amazing it works. He can’t because he has not experienced that and most likely never will be able to. I tell you what though dsouza, you should send support an email and I’ll try to work something out with you. We stand by our return policy 100% and rather than just tossing it I can work something out with you. We aim to please and I am positive you would reap the benefits of Ammo if you could experience it the way you want to. Its up to you, but seriously I understand 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/27 "2011-01-31T23:14:55Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I’m afraid after experimenting with Ammo and Edge I have to concur with Gegogi that ammo is a dud. > > #1 all it gets me is polite vibe. Soon as I go for more than polite I get shot down. I tried phone numbers, asking women out for coffee, lunch etc just doesn’t do it. they find excuses to shut me out. Its as if maybe I don’t vibe with too polite as I come across wimpy. I was wearing ammo IS and that’s what happened. > > #2 edge is hit or miss. When it works it works. I find I can make a lot more technical errors in my gameplan and still get results (flirtation, phone numbers, 10’s chasing me). these same 10’s think I’m desparate when wearing ammo/is because I talk to much and come on too strong. > > I ordered A314 but I wonder if it will even help the mix… > > Personally edge always makes me act like the man when it hits. I’m congruent with it. the problem is it makes me look like a jerk. My facial expressions become tense with it. I haven’t learned how to tame the beast. > > How do I know this is not coincidence. I’ve had edge work on the same 10/10 girl that tells me she’ll be in a new position and on probation for 6 months in her new company so not to visit when wearing ammo /is. > > The truth is edge is voodoo juice. Women will fall off the bang wagon if they’re horny enough. With ammo they are in full self control. > > Tuth is no better. It has no magical effects its just anone. Edge has secret ingredients and I think these ingredients create a pull to women to get horny and get horny now. > > If only I could find a way to make edge more consistent for me it would be perfect. With edge if your around the same girl all the time and flirt with her eventually she will get HORNY and want SOMETHING out of you be it a phone number, date etc. Without hormones her rational brain is making all decisions or her feelings. > > Anyone else agree with this particular opinion? I am not saying ammo is not worth it for guys great at charima, but if your not great at it your better of playing a bad boy and waiting till the woman is horny enough to take things further. > > Maybe I am just more congruent with edge. They say it works on blacks, spanish ,and indians initially. > > if only I could get rid of my angry face and tense facial muscles it causes when I inhale it or when the pheromones reach OD by accident. > > dsouza I like you findings above ! Repped ( with a little hint added ) Pago ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/28 "2011-02-01T00:40:54Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > You’re not trying hard enough. Get over your self-effects with Ammo, and act like a regular guy, and _then_ you’ll see results. Trust me, it’s really good stuff! > > That said, I’m too afraid to try Edge, 😉 I am EXTREMELY effected by self effects of any mones. This is because at one time I was on medicine for clinical depression. My whole life I was in a reactive state and consequently I am shaped vividly by what I am lead to believe. Even now on very low dose of Paxil i still exprienced 80% self effects 10% mone results. That’s how powerful self effects are on me. And NOTHING can change that after experiencing it for 41 years. Best solution… products whose reviews, testomonials etc are positive with what I want and those that have great self effects on my mood, confidence etc. I have ordered so far A314a spray, ammo, and instant shine 1x. I am hoping the a314a will give me enough confidence to increase my status vibe. My status vibe is very low every since I lost my job due to health reasons. I would have complete faith that a314a would help fix that low self esteem hole but Gegogi pointed out that a314 will only pull the wool over a persons eyes for a few minutes. Not that I’m looking for LTR that it should matter much… Dsouza ---
**Author:** ![m0ses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@m0ses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m0ses)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/29 "2011-02-02T03:44:22Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I am EXTREMELY effected by self effects of any mones. This is because at one time I was on medicine for clinical depression. My whole life I was in a reactive state and consequently I am shaped vividly by what I am lead to believe. Even now on very low dose of Paxil i still exprienced 80% self effects 10% mone results. That’s how powerful self effects are on me. > > And NOTHING can change that after experiencing it for 41 years… > > Dsouza I must say I am very much the opposite of that - although having a similar experience with medication for about 15 years I must say I get very little self effects from any mones I try. Usually none at all. Funny thing is I’m also on a low does of Paxil at the moment. After spending so much time in a reactive and hypersensitive state myself, I have over the last year or so become extremely controlled and very much at peace/acceptance with the world and myself. Have gained a much stronger sense of reality. I can spray on like 7 or 8 sprays of IS or IO and get pretty much no self effects other than the urge to smile slightly for a couple of minutes, then its gone. Very interested to hear your experiences Dsouza, thanks for sharing that. Because I’ve often wondered about all the reports of self effects and why I wasn’t really experiencing much. I have sometimes wondered if knowing what the mones intended effects are makes me mentally inclined to ‘take on’ and ‘act out’ these intended behaviors, leading to the ‘results’ I’m experiencing with mones. That is: Is it my behavior as a result of wearing the mones (placebo) that is causing a different type of interaction vs the mones actually doing something? I doubt this is entirely the case given some of the unusual behaviors of others I have experienced when moned up, yet I can’t help but wonder…guess its a combination of both and all goes back to the old congruency argument covered a hundred times before… Better stop now before I go off on too many other tangents 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/30 "2011-02-02T06:13:47Z")
I don’t know if anyone pointed this out but: shouldn’t one be comparing Ammo to Alter Ego, instead of Edge? Think about that for a second 😉 ---
**Author:** ![m0ses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@m0ses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m0ses)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/31 "2011-02-02T06:29:56Z")
Was initially just looking for a comparison of blatant hits when using either of these products - hadn’t really used Ammo much when I started this thread, kind of expected it to be a heavy hitter like TE, hence the comparison. After a lot of testing of Ammo and a lot of reading I understand the two products are nothing alike in composition or results. I don’t mind Ammo @ 3 sprays, any less doesn’t seem to do much for me, but I love TE even if it sometimes provokes less than ideal responses…man when it hits it really hits hard. Wouldn’t mind hearing about AE tho, looked at it a few times but never bought any. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/32 "2011-02-02T10:34:17Z")
> [@m0ses](#): > > I must say I am very much the opposite of that - although having a similar experience with medication for about 15 years I must say I get very little self effects from any mones I try. Usually none at all. Funny thing is I’m also on a low does of Paxil at the moment. > > After spending so much time in a reactive and hypersensitive state myself, I have over the last year or so become extremely controlled and very much at peace/acceptance with the world and myself. Have gained a much stronger sense of reality. > > I can spray on like 7 or 8 sprays of IS or IO and get pretty much no self effects other than the urge to smile slightly for a couple of minutes, then its gone. > > Very interested to hear your experiences Dsouza, thanks for sharing that. Because I’ve often wondered about all the reports of self effects and why I wasn’t really experiencing much. **I have sometimes wondered if knowing what the mones intended effects are makes me mentally inclined to ‘take on’ and ‘act out’ these intended behaviors, leading to the ‘results’ I’m experiencing with mones. That is: Is it my behavior as a result of wearing the mones (placebo) that is causing a different type of interaction vs the mones actually doing something?** > > I doubt this is entirely the case given some of the unusual behaviors of others I have experienced when moned up, yet I can’t help but wonder…guess its a combination of both and all goes back to the old congruency argument covered a hundred times before… > > Better stop now before I go off on too many other tangents 😉 Yes what I bolded above is exactly the case. How can I be congruent with ammo when I hear all these negative reviews on the current batch? I am starting to think you are right. Self effects are becoming minimal. When I first worse IS and ammo they were much more, most likely because I was excited with the new products. Now I find I see results from others but I don’t act on them much because of lack of congruency. i.e. read threads about how IS loses its self effects etc. Then how ammo is a dud. How can anyone who has suffered from depression act out a positive role when hearing this. In essence, peoples negative experiences about mones DO effect my ability to be congruent since I tend to live reactively due to depression issues . dsouza ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/33 "2011-02-02T10:42:32Z")
> [@m0ses](#): > > Was initially just looking for a comparison of blatant hits when using either of these products - hadn’t really used Ammo much when I started this thread, kind of expected it to be a heavy hitter like TE, hence the comparison. After a lot of testing of Ammo and a lot of reading I understand the two products are nothing alike in composition or results. I don’t mind Ammo @ 3 sprays, any less doesn’t seem to do much for me, but I love TE even if it sometimes provokes less than ideal responses…man when it hits it really hits hard. > > Wouldn’t mind hearing about AE tho, looked at it a few times but never bought any. Do you use ff21 ammo? dsouza ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/34 "2011-02-02T10:52:09Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I don’t know if anyone pointed this out but: > shouldn’t one be comparing Ammo to Alter Ego, instead of Edge? > Think about that for a second 😉 Alter ego gets me the arm grabbing attention as ammo but SO says alter ego smells like old fart. SO says ammo smells like tide but not old fart. My best ammo hit was the DAY after i worse 2-3 sprays. The smell of ammo wore off, so all that was left was the effect. It was good. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/35 "2011-02-02T11:01:58Z")
> [@m0ses](#): > > Was initially just looking for a comparison of blatant hits when using either of these products - hadn’t really used Ammo much when I started this thread, kind of expected it to be a heavy hitter like TE, hence the comparison. After a lot of testing of Ammo and a lot of reading I understand the two products are nothing alike in composition or results. I don’t mind Ammo @ 3 sprays, any less doesn’t seem to do much for me, but I love TE even if it sometimes provokes less than ideal responses…man when it hits it really hits hard. > > Wouldn’t mind hearing about AE tho, looked at it a few times but never bought any. How much edge do you use and wear do you apply it? thanks dsouza ---
**Author:** ![m0ses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@m0ses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m0ses)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/36 "2011-02-03T05:36:44Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > In essence, peoples negative experiences about mones DO effect my ability to be congruent since I tend to live reactively due to depression issues . I have had a fair bit of experience in this area, although I would say that I am far less influenced by others opinions or thoughts. We have all read over and over that its 90% you and 10% mones or there abouts. Was just thinking about that in the last post and wonder if this is the case in the vast majority of situations. However it may very well be the other way around when you get a massive TE or NPA hit tho and to some degree I think that is why I’m still so interested in mones 🙂 Sounds like you’re a bit of a somnambulist and that can be used to your advantage if you are inclined to take on any meditative or spiritual practices. I’m not going to force my opinion on you, but just briefly I found the act of true acceptance along with mindfulness and other meditation practices helped me enormously in this area. To the point where I can say I no longer suffer from any significant type of depression or anxiety beyond what is considered normal human responses. PM me if you want to know anything else. > [@dsouza](#): > > Do you use ff21 ammo? Don’t have it in front of me know, this bottle was bought about a month or 2 ago. So whatever that would be. I’ll check later and confirm > [@dsouza](#): > > My best ammo hit was the DAY after i worse 2-3 sprays. The smell of ammo wore off, so all that was left was the effect. It was good. I’ve never had a mone effect unless I am wearing mones, I have read a lot of posts particularly on LS about day after effects but have never experienced it myself. Would you say in your experience AE and Ammo are pretty much the same thing? > [@dsouza](#): > > How much edge do you use and wear do you apply it? I’m 30 now and I find that 1.5 to 2 sprays is fine for me, sometimes I go 3 and get some crazy hits…most of the time at those doses for me its cougar bait. Women under 40 don’t know what to do. Although I have tried different ratios in the past I have found that 1:1 seems best. At 1:1 with cologne: 1 spray = 50% TE and 50% cologne. So if I want 3 sprays total - 1 to each wrist, 1 each side of neck and 2 to chest = 6 sprays of mix. Usually use SoE as a bit of a buffer, the times I have used it unbuffered I usually ghost or get aggressive responses. Also I find if I don’t premix it rather than layer it I get a rapid break down and end up smelling like crap after a couple of hours. Just thinking now I would love to get my T levels checked and think I will next time I go to the Doc’s just to see where my testosterone is in relation to normal range. One more thing, last night I used 2 drops A314 and about 20 inches of SoE and had the most potent self effects I have yet to experience with any mones. Maybe its because I started talking about self effects yesterday in this thread and I talked my self into feeling something…or maybe just a coincidence and with that combo I really did get some great self effects lol. One thing I can say for sure, if I’m not in a good mood and I slap on some IS or IO or whatever else and go out and try to meet people, its not going to do anything unless I change my own state. Mones are ‘almost never’ a magic bullet but they can undoubtedly enhance an otherwise mundane interaction and sometimes even make it. As I’ve already said, sometimes you get lucky and they hit the right person at the right time… then it can sure feel like magic. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/37 "2011-02-03T06:27:53Z")
> [@m0ses](#): > > **At 1:1 with cologne: 1 spray = 50% TE and 50% cologne. So if I want 3 sprays total - 1 to each wrist, 1 each side of neck and 2 to chest = 6 sprays of mix. Usually use SoE as a bit of a buffer, the times I have used it unbuffered I usually ghost or get aggressive responses. Also I find if I don’t premix it rather than layer it I get a rapid break down and end up smelling like crap after a couple of hours.** > . Moses: How do you premix above? I understand with NPA its easy you use drops and 1 drop npa to 5 drops cologne. But with edge I’d wanna get the equivalent **QUANTITY** of 1 spray of edge bottle right, per spray? Or do you just use a dropper and count 1 drop of edge bottle to every drop of cologne and toss that into a sephora atomizer? It’s great to find another mone user with similar experiences/health issues to my own. Really great… I am glad I have others in same boat to compare my mone experiences with. It should help my learning curve with these products. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/38 "2011-02-03T16:32:02Z")
> [@m0ses](#): > > We have all read over and over that its 90% you and 10% mones or there abouts. With the right mones, it’s never 90% you and 10% mones. NPA and The Edge are never the same thing, even if the producer say it. ---
**Author:** ![m0ses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@m0ses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m0ses)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/39 "2011-02-06T05:57:00Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Moses: > > How do you premix above? I understand with NPA its easy you use drops and 1 drop npa to 5 drops cologne. But with edge I’d wanna get the equivalent **QUANTITY** of 1 spray of edge bottle right, per spray? Or do you just use a dropper and count 1 drop of edge bottle to every drop of cologne and toss that into a sephora atomizer? > > It’s great to find another mone user with similar experiences/health issues to my own. Really great… I am glad I have others in same boat to compare my mone experiences with. It should help my learning curve with these products. > > dsouza Since TE I have is sealed and the top doesn’t come off I drilled a tiny hole in the bottom and used a 1ml syringe to extract the qualities I wanted then did the same thing with some D&G cologne. I’m still inexperienced with mones but I’m glad my experiences can help others as they have helped me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![m0ses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@m0ses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m0ses)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349/40 "2011-02-06T05:58:51Z")
> [@JohnnyHard](#): > > With the right mones, it’s never 90% you and 10% mones. > > NPA and The Edge are never the same thing, even if the producer say it. No idea about this one, I don’t have any NPA at the moment so I can’t really comment, just going on what the general consensus around various forums I have read. But certainly in some situations the mones do a hell of a lot more than 10% of the work. Always up to you to bring it home tho 😉 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-edge-vs-ammo/44349.md?page=3)