# The effect of copulins (woah) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 13, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656 "2009-07-13T08:53:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/21 "2009-07-14T16:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > If the sexes were reversed and the story was of a man somehow turning his wife into a docile imbecilic puppet through the use of male pheromones, I’d be just as disturbed (I think I said something similar in the original post). food for thought: i know pheromones cannot make anyone a docile puppet, so I never would entertain such nonsense… Im frankly more disturbed that her psycho-ness was about bringing them together, his psycho-ness could have infected her, and was about HIM. _sigh_ glad I got that off my chest. ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/22 "2009-07-14T16:56:59Z")
oh man… that was disturbing lol… ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/23 "2009-07-14T16:59:54Z")
> [@BrunetteBeauty](#): > > Chances are, this story is written by a man because this kind of thing is his fetish. Generally, most fucked-up stuff on the internet is created by some fucked-up man for his fucked-up sexual fixations and fascinations. > teehee believe it or not, this has been on the internet for some time. my personal theory is that it gives women who are stuck in relationships…usually for religious reasons…a feeling that they have some control. when this stuff was brought to my attention a long time ago, it was posted as a shared conversation between catholic women. not saying they all are. its missing a few elements to be written by a man who isnt entirely masochistic… well, except that in his macho-ness he did bang some chick behind his wife’s back… yeah. you could be right… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Geena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/geena/32/570_2.png) [@Geena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Geena)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/24 "2009-07-14T17:04:19Z")
Well there is an entire fetish for hypnosis, brainwashing and intoxication, you know. Men who want women to intoxicate them and take advantage of them, turn them into their zombies. It’s quite popular and this very much reminded me of it. > [@Lor](#): > > believe it or not, > this has been on the internet for some time. > > my personal theory is that it gives women who are stuck in relationships…usually for religious reasons…a feeling that they have some control. > > when this stuff was brought to my attention a long time ago, it was posted as a shared conversation between catholic women. > not saying they all are. > > its missing a few elements to be written by a man who isnt entirely masochistic… > well, except that in his macho-ness he did bang some chick behind his wife’s back… > yeah. you could be right… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/25 "2009-07-14T17:24:49Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > And please site a source if you are saying that a man’s penis can suck juice up into his balls… zomg… you’re killling me. > > Please give me a fucking break. > > Diane I thought I already did give you a break, and I cited sources (_Male sexual function_ by _John Joseph Mulcahy_). Assuming you mean the word suck figuratively rather than literally: - Handbook of cosmetic science and technology - By _Marc Paye, A. O. Barel, Howard I. Maibach_ - Absorption Through the Scrotal Sac - \*Hull Physiological Laboratory of University of Chicago - N.F. Fisher (1923!) - - Androgen deficiency in the adult male - _By Malcolm Carruthers_ (discusses: Testoderm patches and absorption through scrotal sac) - Topical drug bioavailability, bioequivalence, and penetration - By _Vinod P. Shah, Howard I. Maibach_ - Delivery of testosterone replacement therapy - Asjad Hameed, Theresa Brothwood & Pierre Bouloux (69) Most are available on Google book/scholar or at a good library. Below is a picture of a simple hard-to-argue-with graph from _Handbook of cosmetic science and technology_ which shows various absorption rates. I’m not sure why you find the fact that it is possible to absorb copulins transdermally is so hard to believe, but the science (some of it from as far back as the 1920’s) disagrees with you. With the right molecule transdermal absorption through mucous membranes (male glans) and scrotum is an established fact. I do understand that it’s easier to laugh at people when they’re wrong. But sometimes they’re not 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/26 "2009-07-14T17:33:35Z")
> [@oom](#): > > I thought I already did give you a break, and I cited sources (_Male sexual function_ by _John Joseph Mulcahy_). Assuming you mean the word suck figuratively rather than literally: > > - Handbook of cosmetic science and technology - By _Marc Paye, A. O. Barel, Howard I. Maibach_ > - Absorption Through the Scrotal Sac - \*Hull Physiological Laboratory of University of Chicago - N.F. Fisher (1923!) > > - > - Androgen deficiency in the adult male - _By Malcolm Carruthers_ (discusses: Testoderm patches and absorption through scrotal sac) > - Topical drug bioavailability, bioequivalence, and penetration - By _Vinod P. Shah, Howard I. Maibach_ > - Delivery of testosterone replacement therapy - Asjad Hameed, Theresa Brothwood & Pierre Bouloux (69) > > Most are available on Google book/scholar or at a good library. Below is a picture of a simple hard-to-argue-with graph from _Handbook of cosmetic science and technology_ which shows various absorption rates. > > I’m not sure why you find the fact that it is possible to absorb copulins transdermally is so hard to believe, but the science (some of it from as far back as the 1920’s) disagrees with you. With the right molecule transdermal absorption through mucous membranes (male glans) and scrotum is an established fact. > > I do understand that it’s easier to laugh at people when they’re wrong. But sometimes they’re not 🙄 Okay, first point. No one is arguing that some substances can be absorbed through the skin. It is possible and even probable with some substances. But just because the dermal layers can be penetrated by _some_ substances does not mean that they are a) mucous membranes, or b) permeable to _any_ substance. Second, are you seriously giving credence to this internet story? Seriously? Third, have you ever had sex with a woman, and if so, why aren’t you also a zombie? And fourth, why is it that women, who produce copulins all the time (which _are_ in direct contact with their own mucus membranes, btw) are not zombies? I’m still laughing by the way, but not at you. I’m laughing with you. 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Geena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/geena/32/570_2.png) [@Geena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Geena)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/27 "2009-07-14T17:41:02Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/b/b2cc14a6fb80495b520812450cb8c04937681862.jpeg) I gave these guys a lap dance last night. Now look at them. ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/28 "2009-07-14T17:49:51Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > But just because the dermal layers can be penetrated by _some_ substances does not mean that they are a) mucous membranes, or b) permeable to _any_ substance. Finally we can agree. > [@diane999](#): > > Second, are you seriously giving credence to this internet story? Seriously? Depends on my mood. > [@diane999](#): > > Third, have you ever had sex with a woman, and if so, why aren’t you also a zombie? “Yes” to the first part and to the second, “I haven’t met the right woman yet”. > [@diane999](#): > > And fourth, why is it that women, who produce copulins all the time (which _are_ in direct contact with their own mucus membranes, btw) are not zombies? It’s to do with the hypothalmus and the different responses it has in each sex. There isn’t much research in this area, but the testosterone increase that is symptomatic of male exposure to copulins (mentioned elsewhere in the forum by a few) is driven by the hypothalmus. Women and men have different responses through the VNO-hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal “circuit” in men and the VNO-hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian “circuit” in women. If I wasn’t already involved in writing a paper, I’d love to research your last question. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/29 "2009-07-14T18:06:41Z")
> [@oom](#): > > Finally we can agree. > > Depends on my mood. > > “Yes” to the first part and to the second, “I haven’t met the right woman yet”. > > It’s to do with the hypothalmus and the different responses it has in each sex. There isn’t much research in this area, but the testosterone increase that is symptomatic of male exposure to copulins (mentioned elsewhere in the forum by a few) is driven by the hypothalmus. Women and men have different responses through the VNO-hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal “circuit” in men and the VNO-hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian “circuit” in women. > > If I wasn’t already involved in writing a paper, I’d love to research your last question. When you get a chance please do look up Jutte’s study. The guys were smelling the copulins from a bottle, not smearing it on their scrotums. Also, please explain to my poor addled female mind how increased testosterone production equals becoming a zombie. My husband always just gets wood, which he turns around and gives to me. 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/30 "2009-07-14T18:12:08Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > When you get a chance please do look up Jutte’s study. The guys were smelling the copulins from a bottle, not smearing it on their scrotums. Some people just don’t know how to have fun. > [@diane999](#): > > Also, please explain to my poor addled female mind how increased testosterone production equals becoming a zombie. I didn’t say that. If you understood that from what I wrote then I wasn’t clear enough. [EDIT] I re-read what I wrote and more clearly I mean: “the **initial** testosterone spike that is symptomatic…”. Longer term I think copulins have a “dampening” effect on the hypothalamus’s production of testosterone but I can’t find the source right now, sorry. > [@diane999](#): > > My husband always just gets wood. Still waiting for my copulins in the post. If you want I’ll let you know my reaction 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/31 "2009-07-14T18:26:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by **diane999** [view post](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/26) > _Third, have you ever had sex with a woman, and if so, why aren’t you also a zombie?_ > > > [@oom](#): > > > > “Yes” to the first part and to the second, “I haven’t met the right woman yet”. I think I can help you out with this one. Here you go: [Tease And Denial - Femdom Male Slave Mistress](http://www.maleslaveclub.com/cat/Tease_and_Denial.html) [Orgasm Denial,Tease and Denial Femdom and Domination Phone Sex](http://www.cockcontrol.com/)[Sessions](http://www.cockcontrol.com/) [Femdom Teasing Orgasm Denial](http://www.femdomteasing.com/) I could go on, but I think you can find more if you want. 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/32 "2009-07-14T18:33:56Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I think I can help you out with this one. Here you go: > > [Tease And Denial - Femdom Male Slave Mistress](http://www.maleslaveclub.com/cat/Tease_and_Denial.html) > > [Orgasm Denial,Tease and Denial Femdom and Domination Phone Sex](http://www.cockcontrol.com/)[Sessions](http://www.cockcontrol.com/) > > [Femdom Teasing Orgasm Denial](http://www.femdomteasing.com/) > > I could go on, but I think you can find more if you want. 😃 > > Diane You are far too kind for your own good. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/33 "2009-07-14T18:37:58Z")
> [@oom](#): > > I re-read what I wrote and more clearly I mean: “the **initial** testosterone spike that is symptomatic…”. Longer term I think copulins have a “dampening” effect on the hypothalamus’s production of testosterone but I can’t find the source right now, sorry. That’s probably because there isn’t one. But if you do find one, I’d love to have it. > [@oom](#): > > Still waiting for my copulins in the post. If you want I’ll let you know my reaction 🙄 That would be awesome. Once I’m finished with the first round of testing of my own copulins formula, maybe you’d like to test those too. Right now Steve is the only guy who will be testing for me during this initial phase. I’d love to have a few more. For more information, go here: `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-journals/dianes-copulin-formulations-testers-thread-33035.html` Diane ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/34 "2009-07-14T18:40:12Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > That would be awesome. Once I’m finished with the first round of testing of my own copulins formula, maybe you’d like to test those too. Right now Steve is the only guy who will be testing for me during this initial phase. I’d love to have a few more. > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-journals/dianes-copulin-formulations-testers-thread-33035.html` > > Diane I will definitely let you know my reactions. My order should arrive tomorrow or Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Geena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/geena/32/570_2.png) [@Geena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Geena)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/35 "2009-07-14T18:43:04Z")
There’s nothing wrong with a man wanting to be zombified by a woman..and it doesn’t take pheromones to do it. Men with erections have very suggestible brains. 🙂 I think it’s rather cute when a man gets a thrill out of being turn to putty by a woman and tempted to behave in ways he wouldn’t normally. Of course, this kind of thing isn’t for everyone. The article though, wasn’t sexy in the least bit. She was pathetic and he was a douche. I’m getting some EOW to test on my target who likes a little zombification now and then. I will keep you updated on how this process plays out with the help of cops. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/36 "2009-07-14T18:50:31Z")
> [@oom](#): > > I will definitely let you know my reactions. My order should arrive tomorrow or Thursday. Cool, but if you get zombified, maybe you should have a woman around to tell you what to post. 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/37 "2009-07-14T19:00:18Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Cool, but if you get zombified, maybe you should have a woman around to tell you what to post. > > 😃 > > Diane Good idea. I’ll keep an XX human variant on speed-dial. If I don’t check in every two hours after the copulins arrive then she can rush round in her pussy-plane and administer some emergency orgasms. - ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/38 "2009-07-14T19:20:13Z")
> [@oom](#): > > Good idea. I’ll keep an XX human variant on speed-dial. > > If I don’t check in every two hours after the copulins arrive then she can rush round in her pussy-plane and administer some emergency orgasms. > > - But I thought the whole point of that story was that once zombified you _don’t_ get any orgasms, just the memories of them??? Diane ---
**Author:** ![Geena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/geena/32/570_2.png) [@Geena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Geena)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/39 "2009-07-14T19:23:14Z")
orgasms are about the only thing that revives a man from zombification. That and gay porn. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-effect-of-copulins-woah/30656/40 "2009-07-14T19:23:22Z")
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