# The Evolution of Pheromones - MX edition

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 19, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093 "2009-05-19T00:35:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/81 "2009-07-13T20:03:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) seems closely related to [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) , [Spaceland](https://a314.com/) and Alpha [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) . However there is a more playful physical side to it.

Those are my observations also. It feels really anoly but also has a cool, charismatic dimension to it as well.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/82 "2009-07-13T23:11:39Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
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> Thanks for the encouragement Vangelis. Did you choose your name for the band? 🙂
> 
> SATURDAY NIGHT FLY BY
> 
> I had a birthday party. Not just any party, but a Mustache party. All men were required not to shave. I was partying with some old and new friends. So prior to going out I put on one spray of P74 and one spray of P83 to cause light attraction and some fun.
> 
> Included with me I had some to-gos. MX203, MX292, MX272 and P79  
> I’m glad I brought them.
> 
> I’m doing more pre-evening planning. Not just going out, but really getting the intention involved. The intention for Saturday was to go and have fun with many friends, and maybe dance my way into someone new. The party went really well, lots of fun and drinks were had. After dinner we went out to a disco and had a great time. I had been spraying the togos evenly spaced throughout the night, so by this time I had some 203 and had freshly applied 292. A very cute woman came up and introduced herself. This happened twice. So anyways, my friends went out for late night food and I finished off the club. I wasn’t done though. A show I had wanted to see that night had been sold out, so I stood outside it at 3am and met people. I met one wild looking woman who was quite attractive. She invited me out to an after-party. Found the after-party and on my way to the party bumped into a good buddy of mine. We made it to the party and the place was groovin! Great loft party.
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> By this point I had applied some 272 and P79.
> 
> Now people were SWEATY. I can tell you, being the best smelling person in a sweaty hot dancefloor is quite an advantage. And on a stinky dancefloor fresh neroli smells soooooo good. grapefruit too. very refreshing. I was accepted by most every woman I talked to. I wasn’t ‘gaming’ or trying to get laid, I was having fun and dancing. I kept dancing until 6am when the wild cutie danced with me and kissed my hand, just like HBgotaboyfriend. Number closed and walked home in the sunshine. Ahh so nice.

Great report! Getting invited to an after hours party is by an attractive woman you don’t know is a major IOI and a major hit!

I never thought to just stand outside a venue if it’s sold out. That’s a great idea. Also, a good idea to have some togo sprays on hand just in case the mojo seems to me dying down. 🆒

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/83 "2009-07-14T03:49:31Z")

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“The later you stay out at night the greater your chances of going home with a woman.” Credit: Assanova (do a google search for his blog)

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/84 "2009-07-14T04:41:16Z")

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Yeah, I have Assanova’s free EBook. It is really good.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/85 "2009-07-16T18:58:41Z")

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I have tried [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) on a couple more occasions at work. The first time I applied P75 @ 2.5mcgs I actually felt increased awareness instead of the dullness and tired feeling I associated to it previously. I noted some stronger eye contact.

I had an interesting interaction last night. I grabbed a friend of mine (from the HBPornstar story) and we went for a beer at a nearby pub that brews their own beer. While getting our drinks, I opened and chatted with HBRussian who was waiting for her friend. In a few minutes her friend arrived and we went outside together to have our beer.

I was making lots of jokes and was very self-amused (the secret to success in great salesmen and great ladies men.) and the ladies were really getting into the spur of things. At one point I spilled some beer onto the table. OOps 😛

Afterwards, we started having an interesting discussion about the philosophies of seduction with these women. HBRussian focused her eyes on me very intently and said to me “Do you know what it feels like to feel an attraction for someone, and you don’t know why…the attraction feels like it’s not a part of you, yet something about the person compels you.” Indeed, the very definition of seduction. Yes, my dear, I know what you speak of. I had just one spray of MX292 on. “Do you believe attraction is not a choice?” I asked her, and the conversation went on into the night. I number closed them both very solidly and booked it as a success.

I found it interesting, that she said the attraction did not feel like it was coming from her. Very very perceptive. She also asked if I was taking testosterone supplements because I was talking about sexual topics, lol. It was right after she asked her question, so it sounded like she was trying to figure out what I was doing that was making her attracted, lol.

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**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/86 "2009-07-16T19:08:33Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
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> “Do you know what it feels like to feel an attraction for someone, and you don’t know why…the attraction feels like it’s not a part of you, yet something about the person compels you.” Indeed, the very definition of seduction. Yes, my dear, I know what you speak of. I had just one spray of MX292 on. “Do you believe attraction is **not** a choice?”

LOL! Masterful. “Do you belive attraction is not a choice.” what a fantastic use of language. not!!! Great!!! This is the kind of question and frame I am trying to describe to Metaltree. A question that elicits the state you want and gets them thinking towards the direction you want to go. I am copy pastig this in his journal.

Is this a Ross Jeffreis NLP pattern? If you just came up with, sir, you are not only a phero knight nor even just a Venusian artist, you make language rock.

The above is the perfect frame for the Cinderella mix I am trying to sort out: 272+IJ+ ( ).

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/87 "2009-07-17T02:14:00Z")

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Thank you for the allusions to my skill. I picked up the phrase from a friend of mine, and I have heard it used before. I quite like it.

I forgot to mention my free stuff tally…  
-One free beer from HBRussian (after I spilled mine) She didn’t believe my age and even asked for my ID. I wouldn’t reveal it until she offered a drink if I was telling the truth.  
-The bartender came up and said she had made a mistake with the bills and charged me someone elses drinks. Once she fixed the problem she sent me free shots for my table.  
-A new yorker gave me a cigar while I was chatting up his girls. thanks 🆒

Getting ready for another crazy weekend

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/88 "2009-07-17T03:17:39Z")

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I am really enjoying reading your journal.

> [@](#):
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> I was making lots of jokes and was very self-amused (the secret to success in great salesmen and great ladies men.) and the ladies were really getting into the spur of things.

I agree that the quality of being complete and fulfilled within oneself is a secret to success. We women have such a hard time believing that you don’t need us to be satisfied. It demands our attention.

Great reports!

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/89 "2009-07-19T02:39:52Z")

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Okay, I’m going to post about Friday. The pheromones did not work in my favour it seemed, so I want to reflect on it.

FRIDAY NIGHT:

I went out to a house party with a great dj. The dj was mixing some drum and bass mixed with turntablism. Anyways, I was wearing MX292, MX200, IO and had a togo of Come talk to me. I topped up on all of those except the IO a few times during the night.

I got there early, and spent a lot of time on the dancefloor. During the party on three seperate occasions I spoke to a girl, flirted and either had a sexual conversation or danced dirty. Then they ran off to another guy, made out with them and took them home!!! I got them aroused and then a chump took her home. I think I came off as overconfident, perhaps due to the self effects. Anyways, everyone was very friendly and I had a good night.

I learned not to succumb to sexual talk early, it can be a disqualifier. I also got a needed reminder on “buying temperature”. And also that shyness can be sexy- being the guy on the dancefloor all night is alpha…and alpha isn’t everything.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/90 "2009-07-19T19:38:29Z")

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SATURDAY NIGHT IT’S OFFICIAL

Started Saturday with:

2 sprays IG  
40 mcg of P83  
1 spray of MX313

Welcome change of pace this evening. I went to a latin club. The club was laid out perfectly for eye contact. I was feeling great. Started on the sidelines, and chatted a few times, but nothing established the depth. 1am sprayed 1 and a half sprays of MX292 in the bathroom. I’m almost finished my first bottle. As soon as I stepped outside a set immediately hooked. Very very cute girls, the target was being silly with her other girlfriends but not with me. I offered her a drink she turned it down. We went out for a smoke and they had to talk to their car, so I stayed behind. I saw this cute two set and although they didnt give me eye contact their body language was open. I walked up and said “Hey, you two seem like fun” they said “Yeah, we ARE fun!” and it rolled on from there. Tall blonde ends up being a cheerleader, and her brunette friend I called the hippie princess- she likes tree planting and nature. I got along right away with the brunette.

I leapfrogged to a higher value set because im a higher value man. We hit up the dancefloor and I dance with the hbhippieprincess while keeping the latin guys off of the cheerleader. The cheerleader is loving every minute of it. I number closed the HBHP and we made possible plans for today, which may or may not happen. When I phoned her this morning, I could tell it was definately on. It’s good to be ‘on top’ of things.

Thanks to: Androstenone from the [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) MXs. For keeping the attraction going for the night. Also for giving me an ‘edgy’ personality. and of course MX292 for the life of the party vibe. 40mcgs of P83. Hmm, don’t know if it did much, surprisingly. IG definately holdin’ it down and representin’ me propah. recognize.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/91 "2009-07-19T21:00:19Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
>
> Okay, I’m going to post about Friday. The pheromones did not work in my favour it seemed, so I want to reflect on it.
> 
> FRIDAY NIGHT:
> 
> I went out to a house party with a great dj. The dj was mixing some drum and bass mixed with turntablism. Anyways, I was wearing MX292, MX200, IO and had a togo of Come talk to me. I topped up on all of those except the IO a few times during the night.
> 
> I got there early, and spent a lot of time on the dancefloor. During the party on three seperate occasions I spoke to a girl, flirted and either had a sexual conversation or danced dirty. Then they ran off to another guy, made out with them and took them home!!! I got them aroused and then a chump took her home. I think I came off as overconfident, perhaps due to the self effects. Anyways, everyone was very friendly and I had a good night.
> 
> I learned not to succumb to sexual talk early, it can be a disqualifier. I also got a needed reminder on “buying temperature”. And also that shyness can be sexy- being the guy on the dancefloor all night is alpha…and alpha isn’t everything.

It might be possible that she thought you were unattainable. Perhaps she ran off with the chump because she got aroused and thought he was a sure thing. She might have feared being rejected by you.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/92 "2009-07-19T21:45:56Z")

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> [@metalTree](#):
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> It might be possible that she thought you were unattainable. Perhaps she ran off with the chump because she got aroused and thought he was a sure thing. She might have feared being rejected by you.

I don’t know, one of them I know got off on the validation from attraction. Our conversation went like this..

I said “Okay, let’s try a game, make one sentence a lie and one the truth and then I get three questions to figure out which is a lie.”

She said “I’m a lesbian, and i’m a great lay.” I found out all the reasons why she thought she was a great lay, but did not get to try it for myself. Prickteases mrtree, prickteases.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/93 "2009-07-19T22:18:55Z")

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I ordered some A314 from LS and used the discount code. Thanks to YouCanCallMeAl for the inspiration, and Gegogi for the original suggestion. I am going to enjoy having a lighter oil based less smelly A314!!!

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/94 "2009-07-20T10:54:49Z")

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Evolver, I seem to remember you getting mediocre, inconsistent hits with 3 MX292, now you seem to be getting great hits with just 1 spray. Do you think 3 sprays was too much? I’m going to have to try 1 spray of MX292 next time I use it.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/95 "2009-07-20T11:13:39Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
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> Evolver, I seem to remember you getting mediocre, inconsistent hits with 3 MX292, now you seem to be getting great hits with just 1 spray. Do you think 3 sprays was too much? I’m going to have to try 1 spray of MX292 next time I use it.

Thanks for bringing that up. I did get inconsistent hits at the beginning, now that I’m approaching the end of my first bottle, it’s a different story. The reports where I said it was inconsistent were from a very very crowded noisy beer festival, so I could not grasp it’s power back then.

Now I realize that MX292 has outperformed many of my own mixes. I have been using it more and more often when I go out, anywhere from 1-4 sprays. Last night for example…

SUNDAY

Pre-party mix  
2 shots of IG  
2 shots of P74  
20mcg of P83

I went out to an outdoor club on the second story of a building on the water. It was a cloudy and windy day, but relatively warm. I dressed up in a classy shirt that always gets me compliments. I also had a new haircut that has done the same. Needless to say, I was feeling pretty good about my appearance. This party was a different crowd, a feel good, high energy, sexually liberated group of people and I felt really awesome to be partying with everyone. When I walked in one of my favourite tracks came on. There were beautiful women everywhere, and a few of my friends.

Anyways, with all the wind and all the pheromones were not really blending in to the air around me. After about an hour, I went downstairs to the bathroom and applied two half sprays of MX292. Once I got back upstairs again things went very smoothly, as I talked and danced with attractive women. MX292 acted as a **facilitator**. They smell the deliciousness and feel attraction right away, then the p83 and IG took effect slowly. I saw some definite P83 attraction and self effects later in the night, but early on when I had the P83 in the initial mix they were not evident.

I really have attracted ‘higher class totty’ as Al put it in his thread. MX292 has been essential to this, because when my other mixes are not doing the ticket, I apply the MX292. A light Ammo with none of the negatives.

As I noticed things were going so well with the MX292 I went downstairs and applied more. Remembering MID’s thread where he used 4 sprays, I did the same. I got upstairs and got lots of compliments on the scent before and after the top note faded away. I specifically remember one set with a beautiful blonde girl that I knew through my social circle. She had her body all over me and was touching me everywhere.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/96 "2009-07-20T16:36:39Z")

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With all those sprays, you must have had a very strong [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scent.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/97 "2009-07-20T19:04:31Z")

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lol, have you read djandarials journal?

I did not have a strong neroli scent. The [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is game scented. And it was outdoors, so anything goes!!! The Game covers neroli nicely, and I have been enjoying the neroli lately at parties. When people get hot and sweaty it blends in so nicely and makes me smell fantastic. I know I commented in my journal that it smells really strong, but that was my last girlfriend and she was a bit of a whiner. 🙄

Previous girlfriends have commented that my natural body odour smells similar to marijuana. Maybe she missed snuffin’ the natural scent and getting high on my male odour.

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**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/98 "2009-07-20T23:05:47Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
>
> lol, have you read djandarials journal?
> 
> I did not have a strong neroli scent. The P74 is game scented. And it was outdoors, so anything goes!!! The Game covers neroli nicely, and I have been enjoying the neroli lately at parties. When people get hot and sweaty it blends in so nicely and makes me smell fantastic. I know I commented in my journal that it smells really strong, but that was my last girlfriend and she was a bit of a whiner. 🙄
> 
> Previous girlfriends have commented that my natural body odour smells similar to marijuana. Maybe she missed snuffin’ the natural scent and getting high on my male odour.

Now I’m thinking about taking my neroli scented TUTH to the hot sticky dance clubs without good enough AC and spraying myself liberally. 🆒

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/99 "2009-07-23T07:04:57Z")

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I had a “date” after work with HBRussian and what happened was quite unexpected. Yes, pheros had a part to play…

I applied:

4x IH (single strength)  
2 sprays of a mix I made 1:1:3 ( TUTH : IH : IS )  
A couple wimpy shots of the last of the first bottle of MX292

When I get there, she had brought a friend. I knew my wing was nearby, so I invited him out to join us. He brought a friend as well. We had some beers and got to talking. I got the group to play the one truth one lie game and it was very amusing. I learned a lot about HBRussian. In fact, she started telling me about her female lovers she had in the past. Mmmm.

After my friends left I went to the bathroom and tried to get a bit out of the MX292 bottle, as it had a really good response last time with HBRussian. When I returned, She asked me “Do you believe that two perfect people can meet, but it’s not the right time?” Then she told me how she was so happy she met me, how I am her savior and how great I am.

We went for a walk to a corner store, and did she…? Yes she did use the Mystery kiss close on me. 😃

I knew it was not the night to take her home, so I brought her back to the bar.She started telling me how she still loved her ex. She asked me for advice a lot, and I kept telling her that it was really her choice. She thanked me for a really great night together.

We left on a high note, and I foresee good things for the two of us.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-evolution-of-pheromones-mx-edition/29093/100 "2009-07-24T23:17:56Z")

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I went to a packed hip hop club yesterday with some friends from work.

- .5 - 1.5 sprays of MX292 applied in spurts throughout the night. Finished the togo.
- 1 spray MX272 at venue
- 3 sprays MX302 at venue

After spraying the Mx302 I noticed an increase in sexual behaviour around me. I ended up dancing with a cute black girl really dirty which was fun. MX292 provided attention and eye contact while MX272 opened up a few of the girls. All the birthday girls got a present from me that night. 😉

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