# The first and the last time using pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 15, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592 "2009-08-15T13:59:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wazup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f05b48/32.png) [@wazup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wazup)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/1 "2009-08-15T13:59:17Z")
Hi guys, I just bought a tester of PHERMOAX men and the way it smells is, to put it mildly - DISGUSTING. I applied this thing on my body with great difficulty and then put on pretty much of EDT to disguise it. I don’t know maybe I am too naive to buy this thing, but I couldn’t know what it is cause I’ve never heard any of my friends using it and just wanted to give it a try. I’ll try to get my money back at least, otherwise it’s going to the toilet, cause it smells just like urine! These things should be BANNED, this is a true robbery for the poor people who believe in this crap and PAY lots of money for it! ---
**Author:** ![MrRJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@MrRJ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MrRJ)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/2 "2009-08-15T15:07:43Z")
I can’t comment on that product as I have never used it. I must say though, that I think it is wrong to generalize all [pheromones](https://a314.com/) as ‘crap’. I think you’ll find that the general consensus here is quite the opposite. It is a shame however, that you have not had positive results and I would urge you to consider something from androtics. I have had some very noticeable results with Ammo, IS and, IO from androtics. These have been not limited to sexual attraction; I have experienced great results with friends and family as well as attraction from women and a hugely increased level of, err, horniness (that a word?) from my girlfriend. On top of this, the smell is fantastic and Ammo and IS quickly became some of my favourite fragrances, period. If I didn’t get any results from the pheromones, I would still buy it for the smell! Try them out, as far as I know, androtics offer a money back guarantee if you’re really unhappy. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/3 "2009-08-15T16:12:04Z")
I stopped buying products that are not associated with androtics long time ago. my suggestion is you do the same. try out some of the products offered here and you will feel the difference 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/4 "2009-08-15T16:14:24Z")
> [@wazup](#): > > Hi guys, > I just bought a tester of PHERMOAX men and the way it smells is, to put it mildly - DISGUSTING. I applied this thing on my body with great difficulty and then put on pretty much of EDT to disguise it. I don’t know maybe I am too naive to buy this thing, but I couldn’t know what it is cause I’ve never heard any of my friends using it and just wanted to give it a try. I’ll try to get my money back at least, otherwise it’s going to the toilet, cause it smells just like urine! These things should be BANNED, this is a true robbery for the poor people who believe in this crap and PAY lots of money for it! Here we go again… ---
**Author:** ![wazup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f05b48/32.png) [@wazup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wazup)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/5 "2009-08-15T16:52:09Z")
Well, here in Europe I can’t find any products of Androtics Direct, even on eBay. The PHEROMAX is made in Germany and considered to be the best and top sell product. I’m talking seriously this thing smells awful. Maybe it could work for pigs or other animals, but not for people. This is the first time I’m using pheromones that’s why I’m talking about them generally. Maybe I’m wrong, but if PHEROMAX which is such a popular and advertised product has no quality at all, what about the rest…? ---
**Author:** ![subVerse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@subVerse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/subVerse)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/6 "2009-08-15T17:42:42Z")
> [@wazup](#): > > Well, here in Europe I can’t find any products of Androtics Direct, even on eBay. The PHEROMAX is made in Germany and considered to be the best and top sell product. I’m talking seriously this thing smells awful. Maybe it could work for pigs or other animals, but not for people. This is the first time I’m using pheromones that’s why I’m talking about them generally. Maybe I’m wrong, but if PHEROMAX which is such a popular and advertised product has no quality at all, what about the rest…? Who says Pheromax is “the best and top sell product.”? Were these ads sponsored by the company itself? Some companies can market/sell the hell out of something even if it is crap. From my experience the past month using pheros, Androtics is not one of them. Waz, take the time to read through the threads here. You will find the people happy with Androtics products far, FAR, outweigh the ones who don’t have positive results. ---
**Author:** ![lukus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@lukus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/7 "2009-08-15T18:10:17Z")
I buy from Androtics and I’m from the UK, no problems at all. I myself tried to search for androtic products from a UK seller first of all - there isn’t any BUT as it turns out, it’s actually faster, better and probabily cheaper getting it from androtics direct anyways, plus the point scheme and gift certificates, you’d be losing out anywhere else. I unfortunatly bought from that UK [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) company ‘attractant’ first of all. Think it took over a week to get it, Dont really know whats in the spray (i’ve read very watered-down Alphanol?) etc etc.. Androtics gets here in 3 days and I know whats in it, plus no gay stupid lable on androtics products ‘the secret to attracting women’ Yeh really want people to read that. At any rate, everyone pretty much says their product is ‘the best’, even for bottled water. I actually tend to ignore companies that try claiming to be _the best_. Even if its true by some form of statistical majority vote it does not mean it is the best product for you. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/8 "2009-08-15T19:22:28Z")
> [@wazup](#): > > Well, here in Europe I can’t find any products of Androtics Direct, even on eBay. The PHEROMAX is made in Germany and considered to be the best and top sell product. I’m talking seriously this thing smells awful. Maybe it could work for pigs or other animals, but not for people. This is the first time I’m using pheromones that’s why I’m talking about them generally. Maybe I’m wrong, but if PHEROMAX which is such a popular and advertised product has no quality at all, what about the rest…? I am in europe. and the only way to get the products is from their site [https://a314.com/](https://a314.com/) The shipping is fast (3-4 days max). Trust me .. you wont find better products here in Europe. I have tested like 6 different products… all of them are junk. I own a store and i even sell those junks… but i know they are not working. the only working ones are from androtics. but androtics doesnt allow resales (exept Love Scent.. and thats in US too) so get you C.Card and try the products here. Introduce yourself at [Introductions - New Users, Say “Hello” Today and Get $25! at PheromoneTalk.com](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-today/) and you will get 25$ gift certificate for the shop. ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/9 "2009-08-15T19:37:57Z")
nice logic. so why are you coming here and ranting? ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/10 "2009-08-15T20:07:51Z")
> [@wazup](#): > > Hi guys, > I just bought a tester of PHERMOAX men and the way it smells is, to put it mildly - DISGUSTING. I applied this thing on my body with great difficulty and then put on pretty much of EDT to disguise it. I don’t know maybe I am too naive to buy this thing, but I couldn’t know what it is cause I’ve never heard any of my friends using it and just wanted to give it a try. I’ll try to get my money back at least, otherwise it’s going to the toilet, cause it smells just like urine! These things should be BANNED, this is a true robbery for the poor people who believe in this crap and PAY lots of money for it! \*grabs a bowl of pop corn and leans back \* ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/11 "2009-08-15T20:26:11Z")
> [@idle](#): > > Trust me .. you wont find better products here in Europe. > I have tested like 6 different products… all of them are junk. Well, there’s a german online shop which sells some of the stuff that can be found on lovescent (there’s Scent of Eros, Edge, Alter Ego, NPA…) named kentare. That’s where I got my first [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) from - and AE and SoE worked just very nicely for me! 🙂 They do sell Pheromax, too. Btw, they even tell what’s in this stuff: It’s a mix of androstenone, androstadienone and beta-androstenol. > [@](#): > > I own a store and i even sell those junks… but i know they are not working. Shame on you! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/12 "2009-08-15T21:48:36Z")
> [@wazup](#): > > Hi guys, > I just bought a tester of PHERMOAX men and the way it smells is, to put it mildly - DISGUSTING. I applied this thing on my body with great difficulty and then put on pretty much of EDT to disguise it. I don’t know maybe I am too naive to buy this thing, but I couldn’t know what it is cause I’ve never heard any of my friends using it and just wanted to give it a try. I’ll try to get my money back at least, otherwise it’s going to the toilet, cause it smells just like urine! These things should be BANNED, this is a true robbery for the poor people who believe in this crap and PAY lots of money for it! Okay we all know you’re just a friggen troll. However I’ll play ball because I feel sorry for you and want you to feel important. If you had the foresight carry out even the tiniest bit research before spending your hard earned cash, you’d know mones originate in the smelliest places of the human body: armpit sweat, crotch sweat, vaginal fluids, urine, sperm, asshole drippings and saliva. And big duh dude, substances from these places stink like BO, piss, snatch and ass. And yet they are part and parcel of human attraction. The secret to successful mone use is to apply just enough to enhance attraction while masking the odor with cologne, EOs, etc. You actually don’t have to buy mones to use them. Put a dab of tinkle and wad behind each ear (cover with EO/cologne of course) and enjoy enhanced attraction. Incidentally, PHERMOAX pretty much sucks green donkey wangs. Nobody here uses it… ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/13 "2009-08-15T22:02:08Z")
> [@wazup](#): > > Hi guys, > I just bought a tester of PHERMOAX men and the way it smells is, to put it mildly - DISGUSTING. I applied this thing on my body with great difficulty and then put on pretty much of EDT to disguise it. I don’t know maybe I am too naive to buy this thing, but I couldn’t know what it is cause I’ve never heard any of my friends using it and just wanted to give it a try. I’ll try to get my money back at least, otherwise it’s going to the toilet, cause it smells just like urine! These things should be BANNED, this is a true robbery for the poor people who believe in this crap and PAY lots of money for it! I tried out some pheromax several years ago and i did not notice any pheromone like activity effects from it so i just moved on and without any fuss tried several other products that did work for me, Besides one tester is not going to send anyone bankrupt and if this was my only concern for worry and upset then i would be a really lucky man… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wazup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f05b48/32.png) [@wazup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wazup)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/14 "2009-08-15T22:17:53Z")
Okay guys, I shouldn’t have talked about the pheromones generally, cause I have experienced just the PHEROMAX and I’m totally disappointed of it. I’m just pissed of how people make money from s\*\*ts like this! I’ll try the Androtics Direct products and leave a feedback later. ---
**Author:** ![yogalefty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yogalefty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yogalefty)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/15 "2009-08-15T23:03:50Z")
> [@wazup](#): > > Okay guys, I shouldn’t have talked about the pheromones generally, cause I have experienced just the PHEROMAX and I’m totally disappointed of it. I’m just pissed of how people make money from s\*\*ts like this! I’ll try the Androtics Direct products and leave a feedback later. Thank you for not making too quick a snap judgment. They work, I feel like my life has changed only for the better, even if I’ve bought a ton of phero products when I don’t have a lot of money right now. I know that for me, and the vast majority of people, they work. If you go out, socialize, and use them as tools like you would wearing a nice outfit increases your confidence or a couple shots gives you courage, they do the same thing. But others will come on to you as well. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-and-the-last-time-using-pheromones/31592/16 "2009-08-15T23:44:59Z")
Wazup, check the thread on getting a free $25 gift voucher (link in my signature). That’ll help you get started with a couple of 5ml to-go bottles of pheromones and you can try them out. Good ones to try out to start with are Ammunition and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), although all the pheros in the consumer range are very good for new users. And you get a money-back 1-year guarantee with Androtics. Some, even many, pheromone companies are ripoffs. Androtics is \ ***not** \*one of them.