# The First Phero-Adventures of a Married Man **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 22, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039 "2008-08-22T07:26:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/21 "2008-08-25T19:13:02Z")
> [@jchirsch](#): > > a welcoming romantic dance with my spouse when she comes back from work… > [@jchirsch](#): > > I obviously compliment her on her looks etc… > [@jchirsch](#): > > I tidy up the dining room, prepare some nice herbal tea for relaxation, get out the chocolate truffles I specially bought from a French Patisserie we have in town (she loooooooooves them) > [@jchirsch](#): > > I mean very-tender-I-love-you eye contact… > [@jchirsch](#): > > I am also giving her a gentle and very light foot massage > [@jchirsch](#): > > I continue to tell her gently that I find her very beautiful etc. > [@jchirsch](#): > > I indulge her with a more serious foot massage (she loves it) and back massage to release the tensions she’s saying she has there… > [@jchirsch](#): > > I greet her on her stunning figures (yeah… I know… but I’m in love…) > [@jchirsch](#): > > (goooooood she’s beautiful…) > [@jchirsch](#): > > I ask her what is wrong > [@jchirsch](#): > > I wanted to satisfy her needs for tender embrace with no strings attached… > [@jchirsch](#): > > I take care of the domestic chores as I am the one with the time to do them JC, I think your wife needs a wake up call to remind her just how WONDERFUL her husband is!!! Sorry babe, I’m all out of suggestions for ya other than your wife getting a different job! If my hubby did HALF of those things, I’d have him so worn out that HE would be asking ME if we were ready to go to sleep 😃 . Keep us posted…I want to know how the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) works for you as I don’t have any of that yet 🙂 . ~~River ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/22 "2008-08-25T19:29:30Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > I get the impression - and this is a _big_ generalization here - that for a lot of women who work - even those who are professionals and really love what they do - a lot of women feel extra stress when they are the sole or primary (husband works part-time and household would not stay afloat without them) breadwinner. I get the impression that a lot of working women would rather their income be the “secondary” one such that if they got tired and wanted to stay home with the kids or take time off they could. > > I mention that while I know a lot of guys who wish they could retire early, etc.., I have never heard a guy say “I feel stressed because they family relies on my income.” Now that could be for a whole lot of reasons - many dealing with socialization and expectations. At the same time I have heard working women say just that - that they feel additional stress just because they “have” to work - even if it is a situation like jchirsch’s. > > Once again a big generalization on my part - and just for what my two cents are worth … And THAT’s why they call you Boss! You hit the nail on the head although I have no real reason why those feelings are different between men & women either. It just seems to be. Sociology, maybe. My situation is a little different from JC’s. My husband and I both work jobs that require 50+ hours a week and seasonally up to 70+ hours a week. However, when it comes to duties at home, I’m responsible for those too, wherein lies my frustration! Let’s just say that if I didn’t clean, even with the little bit that my hubby helps with, it would look like an F-5 tornado tore thru our house, NO exaggeration! Sometimes I feel a little underappreciated which can result in the BitchyWifeFromHell syndrome to which I am occassionally prone to.😮 ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/23 "2008-08-25T19:42:00Z")
JC, reps to ya for tryin’ so damned hard! ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/24 "2008-08-25T20:41:31Z")
> [@river](#): > > JC, reps to ya for tryin’ so damned hard! Thanks… I appreciate… ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/25 "2008-08-25T20:43:44Z")
> [@river](#): > > JC, I think your wife needs a wake up call to remind her just how WONDERFUL her husband is!!! > > Sorry babe, I’m all out of suggestions for ya other than your wife getting a different job! If my hubby did HALF of those things, I’d have him so worn out that HE would be asking ME if we were ready to go to sleep 😃 . Keep us posted…I want to know how the Instant Female Magic works for you as I don’t have any of that yet 🙂 . > > ~~River Yeah… but remember that I am still a typical sexually obsessed 30+ male… And that I do a lot of these things to get my dose of sweaty sex 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/26 "2008-08-25T22:27:32Z")
> [@jchirsch](#): > > Yeah… but remember that I am still a typical sexually obsessed 30+ male… And that I do a lot of these things to get my dose of sweaty sex 🆒 maybe SHE’s using YOU??? (and not wanting to give anything back in return)😮 ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/27 "2008-08-26T07:22:13Z")
**DAY 4 : 2x Instant Shine (hair) @ 9:00 2x Turn Up the Heat (Chest & wrists) @ 21:45** One has to keep fit, so I decided to go to the gym this morning, out of curiosity I sprayed some IS on my hair… I didn’t notice anything special, but the crowd there early morning on a bank holiday wasn’t that great and was a lot older than me:o Nothing special then on until the night. As it has been the pattern for the last few days, I showered and sprayed myself some Turn Up the Heat, hoping to turn it up also in the bedroom 😉 But once again, my wife seemed to be more interested in her sleep… She gave me an upper body massage (as I had some strains from the morning workout, or at least I said so 😃…) though… But nothing more. She’s tried to cuddle a bit, but couldn’t stay close to me, she say that her nose was tickling 🙄… and then as she is trying to sleep, I try a few experiments to see if I can arouse her with TUTH… So being careful not to touch her too obviously, I put my arm(and sprayed wrist) very close to her head, so that she has the TUTH very close by… Every time she **THROW** my arm away 😮… SHe is also telling me she’s getting a headache 😮… I totally freaked out around 2:00am when she woke up abruptly, I tried to come close to her for appeasement but she told me: **" You are suffocating me! "** … I ended up in the guest bedroom in a very tired and shocked state of mind… This is not something you want your wife to tell you… Curiously she had no recollection of it this morning… I strongly suspect an OD… I have to be careful as this is a very disturbing experience… ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/28 "2008-08-26T08:01:53Z")
Check this out…lol. > [@Ok I think I OD'd and uh blew my SO other right outta bed... (PART 1 and PART 1.2)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-i-think-i-odd-and-uh-blew-my-so-other-right-outta-bed-part-1-and-part-1-2/8979): > > Oh man where do I start.. “it was a dark and stormy night…” Oh wait thats later.. Just for re-cap here is my first email describing what I am after here as a noob.. If you have read this already scroll baby… "OOOOK a little about me. I live in the Northwest, Seattle area early 40’s. I am a nautral flirt and have always loved women. I ran across this site in my interest in pheromones. I have a great female partner and when things are spicy they are usually very spicy.. BUt not always on a con… ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/29 "2008-08-26T08:18:31Z")
Yep… Sooooooooooo many threads and sooooooooooo little time… I guess I’ll stop spraying from short range and use the mist technique…😃 I’ll try again tonight with just one shot… we’ll see what is happening then… ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/30 "2008-08-26T20:42:44Z")
> [@river](#): > > And THAT’s why they call you Boss! You hit the nail on the head :o 🆒 > [@river](#): > > However, when it comes to duties at home, I’m responsible for those too, wherein lies my frustration! Let’s just say that if I didn’t clean, even with the little bit that my hubby helps with, it would look like an F-5 tornado tore thru our house, NO exaggeration! Sometimes I feel a little underappreciated which can result in the BitchyWifeFromHell syndrome to which I am occassionally prone to. That is two different parts of the equation. First - if both of you are working, _both_ have to pitch in with the housework. Guys - I would recommend taking a job your wife _hates_ to do even if you do not care much for it either. I do a lot of the housework and cooking and make sure the kids do their chores … Second - even if both of you work - and again this is for the guys - ladies are verbal creatures. They want to hear the “I love yous” etc. etc. but they also want to hear “Thank you for cooking/working/etc. I appreciate it. I know you work hard/really care about how the house looks. You do a great job. Etc.” Most guys do not do it because often it does not matter to them if someone says it to them or not so they do not think of it. It might be nice for us to hear from time to time, but most guys do not really care. Women on the other hand do and they really want and need to hear it or you will get anything from the IAmUnappreciatedAndUnloved to the “BitchyWifeFromHell” syndromes. Neither is good for your love life. Doing this costs you nothing but air and buys you a lot. Get past the seeming awkwardness of it or the fact that it would seem like “Butt kissing” if you said it to a boss or co-worker. You’re not saying it to them, you are saying it to your wife. And your wife loves to hear those words. Trust the boss … say them. ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/31 "2008-08-27T07:13:05Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Doing this costs you nothing but air and buys you a lot. Get past the seeming awkwardness of it or the fact that it would seem like “Butt kissing” if you said it to a boss or co-worker. You’re not saying it to them, you are saying it to your wife. And your wife loves to hear those words. > > Trust the boss … say them. Hear, hear… Trust the Boss will be my new mantra 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/32 "2008-08-27T08:25:33Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > _ **They want to hear the “I love yous” etc. etc. but they also want to hear “Thank you for cooking/working/etc. I appreciate it. I know you work hard/really care about how the house looks. You do a great job. Etc.”** _ > > _ **Doing this costs you nothing but air and buys you a lot.** _ > > _ **And your wife loves to hear those words.** _ > > _ **… say them** _. Words that turn me on…“Honey, I did all the dishes”…“I folded the laundry”…“How about take out tonight? You could use a break”…music to my ears. Now that’s some sexy talk. Also, nothing like hearing your man tell you how much he loves you and how much he appreciates all you do. And it doesn’t hurt, a bit, to return those thoughtful loving words to a man who’s so appreciative and helpful to you in kind. 😉 In my book that’s what _real men_ are made of. 🙂 > [@](#): > > _ **Trust the boss** _ Always. 😉 Bella ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/33 "2008-08-27T12:44:05Z")
No real entry for Yesterday, as due to my recent OD:o I am off TUTH for a day or two… I have found though that sparying Instant shine on my throat was giving me a sore throat ( a kind of tikling feeling…) Is there a polace where to report all the secondary effects on the user ? ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/34 "2008-08-27T15:14:41Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > :o 🆒 > > That is two different parts of the equation. > > First - if both of you are working, _both_ have to pitch in with the housework. Guys - I would recommend taking a job your wife _hates_ to do even if you do not care much for it either. I do a lot of the housework and cooking and make sure the kids do their chores … > > Second - even if both of you work - and again this is for the guys - ladies are verbal creatures. They want to hear the “I love yous” etc. etc. but they also want to hear “Thank you for cooking/working/etc. I appreciate it. I know you work hard/really care about how the house looks. You do a great job. Etc.” Most guys do not do it because often it does not matter to them if someone says it to them or not so they do not think of it. It might be nice for us to hear from time to time, but most guys do not really care. Women on the other hand do and they really want and need to hear it or you will get anything from the IAmUnappreciatedAndUnloved to the “BitchyWifeFromHell” syndromes. Neither is good for your love life. > > Doing this costs you nothing but air and buys you a lot. Get past the seeming awkwardness of it or the fact that it would seem like “Butt kissing” if you said it to a boss or co-worker. You’re not saying it to them, you are saying it to your wife. And your wife loves to hear those words. > > Trust the boss … say them. I think I’m…I’m…in puppy love with you, Boss!!:o > [@Bella](#): > > Words that turn me on…“Honey, I did all the dishes”…“I folded the laundry”…“How about take out tonight? You could use a break”…music to my ears. Now that’s some sexy talk. Also, nothing like hearing your man tell you how much he loves you and how much he appreciates all you do. And it doesn’t hurt, a bit, to return those thoughtful loving words to a man who’s so appreciative and helpful to you in kind. 😉 In my book that’s what _real men_ are made of. 🙂 Bella Nothin turns me on like a man vaccuuming and winkin at me the same time. Yeeeoowwww!!! > [@jchirsch](#): > > I have found though that sparying Instant shine on my throat was giving me a sore throat ( a kind of tikling feeling…) Is there a polace where to report all the secondary effects on the user ? It bothered me too, at first, but now doesn’t seem to bother. Probably just need to get used to it. And this place is as good as any to report it. 😉 ~~River ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/35 "2008-08-27T18:07:56Z")
> [@river](#): > > I think I’m…I’m…in puppy love with you, Boss!! Bow-wow … lol. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/36 "2008-08-28T19:02:11Z")
OK… No pheros today… We are approaching ‘THAT’ time of the month (which could have also explained some of the frowning and edginess on y wifey’s part…) and my IFM has only just been despatched. I should have it in a couple day with… (evil grin) a bottle of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 25mcg… I am really curious to see it working with my wife… (evil grin bis…) I will definitely keep you all posted on that. Cheers JC ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/37 "2008-08-29T12:00:45Z")
Yeeeeeeeeeeepeeeeeeeeeee… DHL has done miracles and has delivered this morning when I was expecting the package Saturday or Monday… That is going to leave me the Week End to test some of the wonders I have now… I am now in possession of the following : (TG for ToGo Bottles) Turn Up the Heat [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) P83 25mcg Instant Shine x1(TG) Instant Gentleman (TG) I was thinking into trying a bit of IFM with some TUTH tonight… After my shower as I come back from my tuition (1x IFM in back of neck and 1x TUTH on chest and abdomen using the ‘mist technique’) Should I had anything else… ? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/38 "2008-08-29T22:10:24Z")
Keep it simple JC. good luck! ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/39 "2008-08-29T22:12:26Z")
Sounds like a winner to me, JC! Good luck & keep us posted!! ~~River ---
**Author:** ![jchirsch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchirsch/32/742_2.png) [@jchirsch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchirsch)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039/40 "2008-08-30T13:04:11Z")
Ok… Here is the mix I tried yesterday evening after coming back from my tuition and after a nice shower… **1x [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (back of neck) 1x Turn Up The Heat (chest)** I have to admit that there was no visible reaction. But as I suspected, PMS is pending and maybe not having any reaction is already a success (you will understand later on this post…) This morning though I decided to go for broke and after having brought my sweet beloved her breakfast to bed, i decided to shower (and scrub all of the useless pheros I had from yesterday) and tried a more complex mix : **3x Instant Shine (hair) 2x Instant Female Magic (Hair and back of Neck) 1x P83 (25mcg) (Chest) 2x Instant Gentleman (wrists and chest)** This seemed to have made my wife very edgy… First reaction was: you stink (while I have almost unscented deodorant, I barely use cologne…) and then she told me that there was something in me that was making her angry (could it be an OD to something… but what…) She also seem to have troubles adapting to my new phero signature (it has been changing a lot the last week…🙄…) and pointed out that she’s had problem sleeping, and that she found that our bedroom had become oppressive 😮😮😮 (I suspect that it has something to do with me and the pheros… more than the room itself which hasn’t change…) I will wait for tonight and tomorrow to isolate the ‘agressive’ smell… I will start with Instant Female Magic as PMS has definitely landed !!!☹ Any advice, as always is more than welcome… JC [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-first-phero-adventures-of-a-married-man/18039.md?page=3)