# The Future of Pheromone Technology: The Golden 13 Molecules. **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [January 3, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034 "2012-01-03T13:56:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/1 "2012-01-03T13:56:04Z")
Hello Folks. The future of pheromone technology. Mighty molecules with incredible effects. Innovative formulas. Repeatable results. Sustainable production. We can have all of this. If we focus on THIRTEEN GOLDEN molecules. Read on to get the backstory. Or just scroll to the bottom so you know which ten we’re talking about. These are the molecules we’ve invested in for the future. These are the molecules we have figured out how to make sustainably. Every one of them is a Pure Lab Standard, made directly from a lab in a FIRST WORLD country, to chemists who take pride in their work and can produce repeatable results. These are NOT bargain basement chinese or indian chemicals made in fly by night laboratories, with spotty pedigrees or laden with insidious adulterants. Let me tell you what a pure lab standard is, and why you should care. I’ll put it in layman’s terms, because I am a layman, just like many of you! In Chemistry, there is commercial grade stuff, and the lab reference standard. The STANDARD is what _everything else_ is tested against. When you test to see how “pure” a chemical is, it is tested against a _reference_ _standard_. This is the purest stuff available to man at the moment. When you want to know how pure your Vitamin C is, it is tested against a reference sample of a lab standard of Vitamin C, likely produced by an A-class Japanese chemist like Ajinomoto or someone crazy in Switzerland. You get the idea. There are hundreds of vitamin manufacturers out there, who can buy Vitamin C from just about anywhere on the planet. If they’re a responsible company, they’ll send their stuff into a place like ConsumerLab to get their vitamins tested against a lab standard, and then get doled a quality score. Companies can have a good rating if their stuff is even 84% pure. That baffles me a little bit. Anyway, the pheromone world is no different. If pheromone companies out there were _actually_ _responsible_, and if an outfit like ConsumerLab did purity tests and quality scores for stuff like pheromones, you’d see scores out there for how pure their pheromones are against lab standards that were created in painstakingly pure environments with incredible expense and energy. Well, the sorry state of the laughable “pheromone industry” is that most places will buy WHATEVER and sell you WHATEVER at incredibly inflated prices. No joke, folks, we’ve done some secret shopping both in the wholesale world and the retail world, and the juice going in most other brands’ bottles cost somewhere in the $2-3 range for products that are retailing for $50-60. You’re getting cheap, pirated, poor copies of molecules, adulterated with a bevy of stuff YOU DONT WANT ON YOUR BODY. Enough about that nonsense. Here, our stuff isn’t just tested against pure reference standards. Our stuff _is_ the reference standard. We made friends with a network of A-Class hormonal and steroidial chemists, nerds, and academia across the globe, and this is how we can unbelievably, somehow provide YOU with pure reference standards that academia use, for the same price as other people are peddling garbage. Why do we do this? Uh. Well, in short, because our founder was a complete nut. He was absolutely unabashedly into QUALITY in his life. The guy was insane. Insane. (In the good way) He had help set up and was an integral part of a US based nutraceutical manufacturer before this project, and took on this project as sort of a side hobby that turned into something _more_. He recruited the best of the best of the best to meet his insane quality standards. His original philosophy was that you couldn’t understand what pheromones _really did_ unless you had the most insanely pure source of them, period. As close to “nature” as you could get. I may just be a layman, but I really firmly believe that, too. Anyway. This commitment to quality also means that some of the molecules we synthesize are in small batches, low yields. Think microbrew, not Anheuser Busch. They take a lot of experimentation to get right. Some of the molecules are #(\*$@ expensive to produce and take years to get right. Or their part of the raw materials in their product cycle takes a long time to get. Androstenol, Beta Androstenol, and some others at the standard we like them, are like that. The raw materials may just not be there. (This is why you saw a price spike for [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and other nol-containing mixes.) Some of the molecules are other people’s intellectual property. We’re happy to leave them to it, because we respect other innovators rights to do and profit from their work. (We ain’t no fuckin’ pirates!) Androstadienone is like that. Also, unfortunately, some of these chemists just die. We’ve had nobel prize winners on our team. People who have innovated the birth control pill. But since hormone chemistry isn’t as popular as more money making subjects like “osteoporosis” and “breast cancer”, the top tier schools don’t have programs for it. So, the science dies when the chemists do. And they take their novel ways of synthesizing chemicals with them to the grave, since there were no apprentices to step in and further their research. Unbelievable. Ok. So here’s the good part. Here;s where I tell you about the FUTURE of pheromone technology. Which is really exciting, because the FUTURE of pheromone technology looks REALLY GOOD. These are the molecules to focus on, because not only are they reference standards, but they are sustainable. They don’t depend on crazy synthesis routes. We’ve basically figured them out from a manufacturing standpoint. We can BRING these to the people, and we can BRING them without FEAR. You’ve been silently testing them. They’ve shown you some incredible results. We invite you to liberally use them and layer them in all your mixes. If you could, do nothing but dedicate yourselves to cracking all the different effects of these following molecules. We are calling them The Golden Molecules. (There are about 10). The Golden 10: - TAA - P74 - P75 - P83 - P91 - P95 - P102 - P130 - TAC - TAK They’re sustainable. They’re incredible. They show so much promise, it’s undeniable. They’re insanely high quality. They’re seriously the future of pheromone technology as we know it. Extra goodies will be sent to anyone who innovates with us in Golden Ten technology. We will seriously lavish the world on people who are willing to participate in the future of pheromone technology. We’ll figure out something special to grant to anyone who helps us on the quest to perfect mixes with these components. \*\* Special thanks to Jasmin for helping me understand the backstory on the chemistry behind mones, and the difference between lab standards and different grades. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/2 "2012-01-04T05:00:38Z")
Really appreciate everything AD is doing right now, I always believed in this company since discovering [pheromones](https://a314.com/) about it a year ago. I’ve been testing P74/P75 for a while now and I had a feeling they had lots of potential, and I’m focusing more on them at the moment. P91 looks really good as well from the reports I’m seeing. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![level](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85e7bf/32.png) [@level](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/level)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/3 "2012-01-04T22:11:48Z")
wow I have most of the molecules except TAK,P95 &[P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) I have to start play with them more! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/4 "2012-01-05T13:17:02Z")
> [@still18](#): > > Really appreciate everything AD is doing right now, I always believed in this company since discovering pheromones about it a year ago. > > I’ve been testing P74/P75 for a while now and I had a feeling they had lots of potential, and I’m focusing more on them at the moment. P91 looks really good as well from the reports I’m seeing. > > Thanks! THANK you still18. We work for people like you. Sign up your friends, man. Keep the culture good. 🙂 (Btw when you sign up your friends you get a referral bonus. Didja know?) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/5 "2012-01-05T13:18:28Z")
ALSO included in Golden Molecules: - AndrosteRONE - AndrosteNONE - P94 We’re constantly in talks with new chemists to expand these horizons. You can keep an eye on this space; I’ll update y’all as I get the scoop. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/6 "2012-01-05T13:20:29Z")
Just updated the thread title to reflect all the Golden Molecules. Someday I hope it will say “Golden 400”. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/7 "2012-01-05T13:38:29Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > THANK you still18. > > We work for people like you. > > Sign up your friends, man. Keep the culture good. 🙂 > (Btw when you sign up your friends you get a referral bonus. Didja know?) I didn’t know about the referral bonus, sounds good 🙂 BTW, I think it is a good thing not many molecules are available, as there is more time to focus on the “important” ones like the Golden 13, I got my hands full already on a few right now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rlsoftware](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@rlsoftware](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rlsoftware)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/8 "2012-01-06T22:23:54Z")
Wow amazing news. I never tried any of those pheromones but I believe someday I will. I would love to test P83 but first I need to be report user. ---
**Author:** ![andaris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@andaris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andaris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/9 "2012-01-08T04:51:03Z")
Since [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is now sustainable, how about opening up purchase to non-reporting users? While I like to test things, I can’t test things often enough to keep a good journal, nor can I read the reactions/hits as well as others. I’ve purchased quite a few putatives, as well as most of the instant line, and I’ve spent quite a bit of money in a relatively short period of time. P83 has to be the one molecule I’ve been dying to test with what I have and haven’t really been able to use. Any chance you can make this happen? As per the recent thread on reporting users, I too think a “supporting user” class would be a really good idea. I know I haven’t been around that long, but I do know this is my #1 hobby and I’ll be sticking with it for a while. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/10 "2012-01-10T03:33:38Z")
p75 might almost be a mini a314. p93 I’m also using I gotta figure this one out…p83 seems to break barriers and make girls not afraid to touch me hehe. TAA is quite nice, and I loved p130 when I was able to get it!! ---
**Author:** ![oldie21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ba8739/32.png) [@oldie21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oldie21)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/11 "2012-01-14T05:04:31Z")
> [@andaris](#): > > Since P83 is now sustainable, how about opening up purchase to non-reporting users? While I like to test things, I can’t test things often enough to keep a good journal, nor can I read the reactions/hits as well as others. I’ve purchased quite a few putatives, as well as most of the instant line, and I’ve spent quite a bit of money in a relatively short period of time. P83 has to be the one molecule I’ve been dying to test with what I have and haven’t really been able to use. > > Any chance you can make this happen? As per the recent thread on reporting users, I too think a “supporting user” class would be a really good idea. I know I haven’t been around that long, but I do know this is my #1 hobby and I’ll be sticking with it for a while. 🙂 I’m in the same boat as andaris. I second his suggestion, if at all possible of course 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/13 "2012-01-16T04:44:44Z")
Each of them is great, but I can’t say enough about [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), P95, and especially TAC… P75 should be in everyones standard base mix 😉 Its true they are incredible. Nice to see they can stick around! ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Montag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guy_montag/32/1596_2.png) [@Guy\_Montag](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Guy_Montag)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/14 "2012-01-21T00:02:13Z")
I love what AD is doing. Keep it up guys and gals. I’m a customer for life! I’m glad to see P83 on the list. I’ve had some pretty blatant hits with this one, from the get-go! I’ve posted a blurb about my experiences with it in my journal, entry #20. P74 is a favorite of mine as well. I’m starting to run low on it.. might have to purchase a bottle soon. These are exciting times for the [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) Industry and AD is leading the way. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/15 "2012-01-23T22:20:52Z")
And just a teaser in case anyone is reading this. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is BACK in the store for EVERYONE 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MclarenMercedesF1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mclarenmercedesf1/32/2073_2.png) [@MclarenMercedesF1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MclarenMercedesF1)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/16 "2012-02-05T18:15:23Z")
This exciting since I recently invested in some TAC, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), AND P74. And so far these have yielded the best results of them all. I will definently buy the rest of the golden molecules when my return comes in =] ---
**Author:** ![mastadon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@mastadon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mastadon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/17 "2012-02-28T11:01:35Z")
I get excited just reading these posts. Would like to pose a question at large: For an unexperienced user, what are the top 3 “golden” molecules worth experimenting with? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/18 "2012-02-28T16:45:18Z")
They all have their own tremendous values. I would say P91, P74 and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) are top faves while P75 and TAC are way up there too. Its hard to say which would be the best. Out of a hundred or more thirteen are the top 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dred/32/1181_2.png) [@dred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dred)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/19 "2012-03-03T18:05:11Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > They all have their own tremendous values. I would say P91, P74 and P83 are top faves while P75 and TAC are way up there too. Its hard to say which would be the best. Out of a hundred or more thirteen are the top 🙂 Has p130 been discontinued? Don’t see it in the store? ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/20 "2012-03-05T10:19:04Z")
That would be MX458 and MX459, [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) is in these. However, as I recall, these are only available on orders of $100 or more. They’ll be thrown into the order automatically. **P130**. After my testing with it, I give it a WIDE berth. I use it CAREFULLY! In my post here: > [@Personal Thoughts on Mones... 1Alpha's ramblings!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/personal-thoughts-on-mones-1alphas-ramblings/53580): > > I have this nagging feeling that this has been touched on in my stroll through this labyrinth of a forum. I’ve been reading up on the forum and thought about how mones fit in the social equation. Some have proposed that certain none heavy products are prone to cause fisticuffs others, that an other than desired response will be directed at the mone wearer. Or that the user will be getting women clawing all over him like a 21st century Casanova. Also, that being Ghosted, completely ignored, … I mention a P and the effects that I had with it on. THIS WAS **P130**. I am MOST careful with it now. > [@dred](#): > > Has p130 been discontinued? > Don’t see it in the store? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034/21 "2012-03-06T11:04:10Z")
> [@dred](#): > > Has p130 been discontinued? > Don’t see it in the store? As a new molecule, [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) stocks have always been limited. Also, since the last upgrade, out of stock items do tend to vanish from the store till they get restocked. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034.md?page=2)