# The Gun Control Regime! **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [April 28, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447 "2009-04-28T03:47:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/41 "2009-04-28T23:50:54Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > Bubble, how about the guy who was at the mall in Germany with the knife on his girlfriend then tried to get the police to kill him? Great, comparing a knife with a gun. LOLZ šŸ˜‰ Anyway, in my opinion gun control is the best. It works everywhere else. American economy is going downhill. Im holding my breath thinking what would those ā€˜gun freaksā€™ use their guns for once they could no longer feed their families ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/42 "2009-04-28T23:55:22Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > The Snopes report cited at the beginning of this post says that the email is in error on several points including the physical and mental exams, and the home inspections. > > Gun control has widespread support among Americans polled. I donā€™t have any problem with the bill as written. There are way too many guns in the USA and itā€™s ridiculously easy to get one in most parts of the country. Any nutcase can get one, and they frequently do. > > The NRA seems to think not enough gun owners vote, or are even registered to vote ā€¦ youā€™d think if they cared about their freedoms so much, theyā€™d exercise that one above all. I think overthrow of government is supposed to a _last resort_. šŸ™„ > [@](#): > > [Car Accident Statistics, Stats, Auto, Fatal, Drunk Driving](http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/stats.html) > Car Crash Stats: There were nearly 6,420,000 auto accidents in the United States in 2005. The financial cost of these crashes is more than 230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed. About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States ā€“ one death every 13 minutes > [@](#): > > [Bureau of Justice Statistics Firearms and Crime Statistics](http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm) > > - According to the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) in 2005, 477,040 victims of violent crimes stated that they faced an offender with a firearm. > - Incidents involving a firearm represented 9% of the 4.7 million violent crimes of rape and sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated and simple assault in 2005. > - The FBIā€™s Crime in the United States estimated that 66% of the 16,137 murders in 2004 were committed with firearms. So from the above we see that vehicles are so much more dangerous than guns. I believe the same type of laws should be enacted with cars. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/43 "2009-04-29T00:01:15Z")
Oh and BTW gun control advocacy is NOT on the way up at all: [Before Recent Shootings, Gun-Control Support Was Fading](http://www.gallup.com/poll/117361/Recent-Shootings-Gun-Control-Support-Fading.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/44 "2009-04-29T00:01:43Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > So from the above we see that vehicles are so much more dangerous than guns. I believe the same type of laws should be enacted with cars. šŸ˜› Except my friend, unlike a gun, a carā€™s main purpose isnt to hurt people. What other functions a gun can be used for beside harming humans and animals? ---
**Author:** ![FastJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7c8e57/32.png) [@FastJ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FastJ)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/45 "2009-04-29T00:01:50Z")
Talk about a topic that will push my buttons!! šŸ˜ƒ ā€œThose who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.ā€ - Thomas Jefferson One of my favorite quotes. I own handguns in one of the most restrictive states in this country, New York. I got my carry permit when I was 18, and a concealed permit when I was 21. As far as I am concerned it was ridiculous and difficult process. Fortunately the judges we had in my county at the time were all gun owners. Currently the State legislature is trying to revoke all of our life time permits and wants to force us to reapply (and pay) every 5 years for new one, subject to the whims of whomever is in charge. Some people on here have thrown around statistics about the murder rate in various cities relative to gun ownership. The most dangerous cities in this country have the most restrictive gun control. Plain and simple. Detroit, L.A., Chicago, NYC. Safest city in America? Kennesaw, GA where (the last time I checked) there is a local law that REQUIRES every adult resident inside the city limits to own a gun. They also have open carry there the last time I checked as well. Would you knock a little old lady on the head and take her social security check with a dozen armed citizens around? I think not. Just think what one well placed bullet to the back of a little austrian paperhangerā€™s head in the 1930ā€™s would have meant to the world? My Grandfather would not have had to work on the airplanes that leveled cities all over Germany for one thing. Will forces from the U.S. government kick our doors in tomorrow? No. But if we let them theyā€™ll tax ammunition to the point where we canā€™t afford it. Then guns. Then certain guns will be banned from manufacture. Then the list will grow. You see, you donā€™t ā€œneedā€ that particular gun to hunt deer, or ducks. (and you better not have any duck dander in your possession either). Itā€™s about personal freedom. Our European friends gave theirsā€™ up so long ago they donā€™t realize what theyā€™ve lost. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/46 "2009-04-29T00:03:59Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > Great, comparing a knife with a gun. LOLZ šŸ˜‰ > > Anyway, in my opinion gun control is the best. It works everywhere else. American economy is going downhill. Im holding my breath thinking what would those ā€˜gun freaksā€™ use their guns for once they could no longer feed their families ā€¦ Hmm, seems like you are attempting to instigate by calling members with opposing views names. Perhaps you missed my post where I asked everyone to refrain from personal attacks and name calling. It is one of the only rules of this forum and as such you do need to abide by it. šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/47 "2009-04-29T00:04:40Z")
> [@FastJ](#): > > Would you knock a little old lady on the head and take her social security check with a dozen armed citizens around? I think not. How many times such cases happen in a gun free area in the first place? LOLZ šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![FastJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7c8e57/32.png) [@FastJ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FastJ)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/48 "2009-04-29T00:04:43Z")
Would people feel better about killing if it was done with baseball bats or kitchen knives? Personally, a Louisville slugger is much easier to get rid of (backyard bonfire. Oops, no they are in the process of banning those too. You know, carbon emmisions.) than a handgun. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/49 "2009-04-29T00:06:42Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Hmm, seems like you are attempting to instigate by calling members with opposing views names. Perhaps you missed my post where I asked everyone to refrain from personal attacks and name calling. It is one of the only rules of this forum and as such you do need to abide by it. > > šŸ˜• Okay then next time I will say ā€˜Gun loversā€™. šŸ˜‰ > [@](#): > > Would people feel better about killing if it was done with baseball bats or kitchen knives? Are you seriously comparing a handgun and a baseball bat? ---
**Author:** ![FastJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7c8e57/32.png) [@FastJ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FastJ)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/50 "2009-04-29T00:07:19Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > How many times such cases happen in a gun free area in the first place? LOLZ šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„ Actually more often than you would think. One of the reasons they started going with direct deposit. And it applies to any type of robbery or mugging that takes place on the street or an occupied home. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/51 "2009-04-29T00:08:55Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > Im holding my breath thinking what would those ā€˜gun freaksā€™ use their guns for once they could no longer feed their families ā€¦ You seem to be implying that when times are tough, a person who owns a gun (or is it gun rights activist) is going to be more likely to turn to violence or other type of bad behavior than someone who doesnā€™t have a gun. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/52 "2009-04-29T00:11:40Z")
> [@xev](#): > > You seem to be implying that when times are tough, a person who owns a gun (or is it gun rights activist) is going to be more likely to turn to violence or other type of bad behavior than someone who doesnā€™t have a gun. Im implying that during tough times a person with a gun is capable of posing far more danger to society than a person without a gun. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/53 "2009-04-29T00:11:55Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > How many times such cases happen in a gun free area in the first place? LOLZ šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„ Gun laws donā€™t create ā€œgun free areasā€ (lolz), they just insure that only the criminals will have guns. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/54 "2009-04-29T00:14:38Z")
> [@xev](#): > > Gun laws donā€™t create ā€œgun free areasā€ (lolz), they just insure that only the criminals will have guns. Except if the laws become federal laws. There is no point banning guns in California if the criminals can import them from Texas for example. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/55 "2009-04-29T00:16:49Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > So from the above we see that vehicles are so much more dangerous than guns. I believe the same type of laws should be enacted with cars. šŸ˜› It would be more to the point to compare gun violence stats with incidents of cars being used _with intent to commit murder or assault,_ rather than auto accidents. But hey, if you want to require that we _register our vehicles_ (gasp!!), I have no argument with that either. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/56 "2009-04-29T01:18:38Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > It would be more to the point to compare gun violence stats with incidents of cars being used _with intent to commit murder or assault,_ rather than auto accidents. > > But hey, if you want to require that we _register our vehicles_ (gasp!!), I have no argument with that either. šŸ™‚ Not just register Carrie\> I want control! Iā€™m heading up to Tisha23 house first to confiscate that Mustang she has šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/57 "2009-04-29T01:53:09Z")
> [@xev](#): > > Gun laws donā€™t create ā€œgun free areasā€ (lolz), they just insure that only the criminals will have guns. > [@jankren](#): > > Except if the laws become federal laws. No - once again it will just mean that only criminals will have guns. Just like locks only keep honest people out. Just like Prohibition meant only honest people did not have alcohol. Just like federal laws do not stop the importation or manufacture of illegal drugs in this country. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/58 "2009-04-29T02:00:16Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > So from the above we see that vehicles are so much more dangerous than guns. I believe the same type of laws should be enacted with cars. > [@Carrie](#): > > But hey, if you want to require that we _register our vehicles_ (gasp!!), I have no argument with that either. I guess but I would not want the local Toyota Dealership taking my fingerprints when I buy a car. And I think it would be OK to sell a used Chevy to a convicted felon who has served his time. šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/59 "2009-04-29T02:26:20Z")
> [@FastJ](#): > > Actually more often than you would think. One of the reasons they started going with direct deposit. And it applies to any type of robbery or mugging that takes place on the street or an occupied home. That is why you see shootings in schools and government buildings, because they are gun free zones. Columbine, Virginia Tech, etc. Not many people want to start shooting if they think other people are going to shoot back. Even if the crazies donā€™t mind people shooting back they would be brought down faster. I read a bumper sticker once. ā€œGuns kill people like spoons made Rosie Oā€™Donnell fat.ā€ I donā€™t own a gun but I donā€™t see why law abiding people canā€™t own one. Especially since you know criminals will always be able to get their hands on them. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/60 "2009-04-29T02:30:22Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > Im implying that during tough times a person with a gun is capable of posing far more danger to society than a person without a gun. Maybe we should move forward with perfecting testing children or even fetuses for genetic predisositions to violence, disease and other types of behavior and locking up children or aborting fetuses who may be genetically predisposed to potential violence, before they have a chance to hurt anyone, because of course you could never know what they might do at some point in the future if times got tough. > [@jankren](#): > > Except if the laws become federal laws. There is no point banning guns in California if the criminals can import them from Texas for example. Yeah federal law has done a great job of eliminating drug trafficking hasnā€™t it. As has been stated repeatedly, make guns, drugs or anything else illegal and only criminals will have them. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447.md?page=4)