# The Gun Control Regime! **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [April 28, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447 "2009-04-28T03:47:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/81 "2009-04-29T18:26:44Z")
LMFAO @ Renny TELL IT!!! ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/82 "2009-04-29T18:36:40Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > German beer = The Best, I also enjoy Texas’s version of Oktoberfest in Fredricksburg, TX. MMMM, I can just imagine how good Warsteiner and chili must go together. Post the dates! ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/83 "2009-04-29T18:59:41Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > Bubble the example was to prove that even in your little country in the world (Germany), there are crazy people willing to commit crimes with whatever weapons are available. I never ever stated that Germany is a crime free country… 🙄 > [@](#): > > …] I have little tolerance for people who have never had the privilege of hunting and enjoying the sport…] Errrmmm… you have little tolerance for people who do not go hunting??? That’s like 90% of the western civilization - which makes you easily the most intolerant person on this board… > [@](#): > > I consider it a insult to my principals when someone outright says firearms should be banned… because the children can get hurt (don’t leave it loaded idiot), or that someone will use it in a violent crime (If they had the inclination to inflict harm on another human, they would have done so with or without a firearm). This thread is about the law stated in the first post - this does not ban fireguns in any way, it just regulates the ways they can be obtained… > [@](#): > > Gun control in America is getting out of hand, we need to put a stop to the Democrats trying to do this. > > Obama’s administration the joke that it is, is going to make it illegal to posess ANY ammunition that does not have a serial number, the price of ammunition is about to skyrcket to as much as $60-80/box. If you are using your ammunition for hunting only, where’s the problem with serial numbers on ammunition??? Dude, it’s partly funny partly alarming how you feel personally attacked by someone calmly discussing the use and necessity of wearing and owning firearms privately! ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/84 "2009-04-29T19:03:03Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > To ensure the title is not insinuating anything against Germany (I lived there for several years and LOVED it) I have changed it. > > It was not my intention to insinuate anything, but as previously stated I simply cut and paste from an email I received. I did think it was tacky and if I offended anyone with it I apologize. > > Like I said I lived in Germany and LOVED it. A refreshingly awesome place with old world charm and downright great people. I look forward to the day I get back there and can enjoy some Schnitzel and Beer. I never personally felt attacked or insulted by the title. I just wondered what it had to do with nazis, as they were clearly not in favour of gun regulations… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/85 "2009-04-29T19:06:10Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > German beer = The Best, I also enjoy Texas’s version of Oktoberfest in Fredricksburg, TX. German beer is very good, but not quite the best. Belgium beer is the best ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/86 "2009-04-29T19:07:16Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > I am commenting on how the social barriers and the mis-understanding on how a country like Germany who has been Socially repressed on gun ownership and how that relates to Texas. If you don’t feel repressed, are you then? As I stated, no-one that I know wants to own a fireweapon here - so how can we feel repressed then?? 😕 Just get it: **The overwhelming majority here does not feel the need to carry weapons or own them privately!** ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/87 "2009-04-29T19:11:17Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > I never personally felt attacked or insulted by the title. I just wondered what it had to do with nazis, as they were clearly not in favour of gun regulations… You would have said something if you were. That much I know. I was actually offended by it though as Nazi’s were assholes and it really had nothing to do with gun control. On that note this legislation is about control. In a free society like the USA we are founded on liberty. When you control others you infringe on their liberty. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/88 "2009-04-29T19:15:42Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > You would have said something if you were. That much I know. In that point you are right my friend! 😉 Oh, and you’re welcome to come to Berlin and have a Schnitzel and Bier with me! 🙂 > [@](#): > > On that note this legislation is about control. In a free society like the USA we are founded on liberty. When you control others you infringe on their liberty. On a side note, do you feel the anti-drug laws repress your freedom? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/89 "2009-04-29T19:32:58Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > In that point you are right my friend! 😉 Oh, and you’re welcome to come to Berlin and have a Schnitzel and Bier with me! 🙂 > > On a side note, do you feel the anti-drug laws repress your freedom? They not only repress freedom but they make it very expensive to catch a buzz. Errr. I mean they make reusable hemp shopping bags too expensive for the average person resulting in the overuse of plastic shopping bags. Anybody else hate plastic shopping bags and or cardboard? Especially chinese cardboard. Nothing against Chinese people, just seems to me their cardboard is really flimsy. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/90 "2009-04-29T19:41:55Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Anybody else hate plastic shopping bags and or cardboard? Especially chinese cardboard. Nothing against Chinese people, just seems to me their cardboard is really flimsy. … I’ve heard you rail against Chinese cardboard several times now… Is there some deep, dark story in your past involving chinese cardboard torture??? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/91 "2009-04-29T19:46:35Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > This thread is about the law stated in the first post - this does not ban fireguns in any way, it just regulates the ways they can be obtained… No but it is about making gun ownership so difficult that people who might want to own a firearm and can legally do so will find gun ownership too difficult and forgo it. > [@bubblebob](#): > > If you are using your ammunition for hunting only, where’s the problem with serial numbers on ammunition??? Cost. Just one more way to make gun ownership and usage too difficult or expensive for people. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/92 "2009-04-29T19:48:29Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > … > > I’ve heard you rail against Chinese cardboard several times now… Is there some deep, dark story in your past involving chinese cardboard torture??? A quick search will reveal the post - a very tragic story - so painful I am surprised he is even able to mention it … 😛 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/93 "2009-04-29T19:49:52Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Cost. Just one more way to make gun ownership and usage too difficult or expensive for people. Putting a number on the bullet raises the price so high no-one can afford it anymore??? ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/94 "2009-04-29T19:55:02Z")
Just a few years ago everything I sold came packaged in sturdy cardboard boxes that kept my goods safe until I unpacked it. I could then pass those cardboard boxes on to people who had need of them for packing, storage or whatever. Today 90% of the goods I sell come packed in flimsy boxes that frequently fail to protect their contents and can seldom be reused which means they go directly to a landfill instead of holding someones stuff in an attic somewhere. It also means that if I want to send spring onions to my widowed auntie who lives in the desert that I have to buy a cardboard box from the post office instead of reusing an old one. You haven’t noticed this outrage? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/95 "2009-04-29T20:37:48Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > Putting a number on the bullet raises the price so high no-one can afford it anymore? Depends on your annual household income. Where I come from … lol. Seriously, it is just another added cost … while adding a whole new layer of government bureaucracy and control. First new machinery for the manufacturer. The cost of whatever system to designate serial numbers. Then the cost to the seller of tracking (software or by hand), then the cost of central database collection, etc.. although those costs come in the form of taxes to pay for more government. But these are all our issues to sort out BB. You guys found a solution that works for you guys in Germany and we will sort out a solution that fits our Constitution and needs here. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/96 "2009-04-29T20:40:24Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > But these are all our issues to sort out BB. You guys found a solution that works for you guys in Germany and we will sort out a solution that fits our Constitution and needs here. Good luck with this then! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/97 "2009-04-29T20:45:39Z")
Because home remanufacture of shells is so easy there is really no point to serial numbering bullets. A lot of criminals drop cigarette butts at crime scenes should we serial number cigarettes? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/98 "2009-04-29T21:08:07Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Because home remanufacture of shells is so easy there is really no point to serial numbering bullets. Have you seen the cost or tried to buy some powder lately? All my friends who pack their own are complaining big time. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/99 "2009-04-29T21:09:52Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > Good luck with this then! Thanks. We’ll get there. Some of us who grew up with weapons and take our right to own them very seriously just do not like the direction this law is going. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447/100 "2009-04-29T21:35:49Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > I never ever stated that Germany is a crime free country… 🙄 > > Errrmmm… you have little tolerance for people who do not go hunting??? That’s like 90% of the western civilization - which makes you easily the most intolerant person on this board… > > This thread is about the law stated in the first post - this does not ban fireguns in any way, it just regulates the ways they can be obtained… > > If you are using your ammunition for hunting only, where’s the problem with serial numbers on ammunition??? > > Dude, it’s partly funny partly alarming how you feel personally attacked by someone calmly discussing the use and necessity of wearing and owning firearms privately! Bubblebob, you are not informed, nor do you understand the severity of the statutes in question. Therefore, continuing this discussion is irrelevant. You poke fun, by saying 90%, I said those who say ban guns yet have never taken any soft of safety classes nor used them for sport. I, stand by what I have stated. The problem with serial numbers on ammunition is that it is idiotic. It will kill the hobby, as well as the sport. Why buy guns when the ammo within 3 years will cost more than the firearm itself? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-gun-control-regime/28447.md?page=6)