# The Holy Trinity: TAA \* ANOL \* P130 = Androtics Version of Dynamic Social Homeostasis **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 10, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878 "2010-12-10T22:32:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/1 "2010-12-10T22:32:14Z")
P130 the Bruce Lee of the Putative series. I got some P130 over the weekend and been testing it. I’m going to write this, but stick it in moderation just to confirm a couple of things first. When I first tested TAA way back when I always had an overwhelming desire to smile and why not. It’s the primary ingredient in Ishine and whenever I felt anxious about the changes I was making in life I would spritz myself with it. My pillows always smelled of [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/). Not much needs to be said about TAA, except that it plays into what I am about to disclose. Over the course of my testing I have discovered and reported on numerous occasions that Ishine by itself has been the most consistent product I’ve used to get the girl. However, what I have recently just discovered is an emerging pattern, that works like this. I usually have the best hits with Ishine only after I’ve had a heavy none wearing day one to two days prior to Ishine by itself. It’s painfully obvious and I’m really not sure how I’ve missed it, but in all my personal notes, the ones I don’t publish, its there to see. Again I want to do some more testing before I start tying things together. Please be patient as theories take time 😃 Do not even bother to ask me to publish these private notes. It will NEVER happen. To many personal details and I cannot scrub them. It’s my personal journal I have been keeping since I was first able to write. I’m not interested in sharing these feelings. Plus I already rewrite information on the forum regarding mone testing. Anyway 🙂 It might be coincidence, but here in lies some interesting tidbits of info. If you have read anything by me you also already know I am not a huge fan of Anol or IO. I’ve always stated emphatically that Anol does not mix well with me. I’m already over-the-top crazy social and if I wasn’t so freaky looking I’d be on TV already. I’ve been asked and yes I have lots of self-doubts about my self. Think I’m talking out my ass when I give out advice? I’m only giving the advice I have already lived. When testing Anol products I always get this “you’re a clown” SteveO and that bothers me. Not because it’s true, but one thing I am discovering is that Anol even makes the little voices in your head chatter more and more. I have very nasty self-doubting voices in my head that for years I’ve struggled to ignore. All people have self doubts, but mine are on the verge of dangerous. You just have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes. OK so now you know something about me. The one thing I do like about Anol is that it seems to make others happy though. Perhaps my brain chemistry is damaged and normally feel good vibes from molecules like Anol strain to compete with my own self-doubting vibes. My propensity to silence them behind a wall comes tumbling down by the overwhelming effects of the Anol. So where as the overall advantage of IO is to create happiness in those it effects and therefore much like releasing endorphins just like a pain-pill; Lortab. Hence the reaction of those effected by the pain pills endorphin releasing properties to overcome social anxieties and become the butterfly. It’s an unfortunate side effect of a pill designed to stave off pain. Same type of thing, with a much more pronounced reaction, as MDMA (AKA ecstasy) which ultimately caused its demise due to the increased street usage as a get high drug. Where as someone who needs pain pills like Lortab to overcome debilitating painful injuries its effects are also profound in overcoming social angst. However, as an opiate derived substance the risks far outweigh the short sighted benefits. It’s almost as if the user will inject crystal Meth because it has similar effects as far as social benefits. Not a very smart case to overcome something that could be overcome simply by taking steps to re-pattern the brain without chemical dependency. You’re asking yourself what is Steve rambling on about now, and I don’t blame you. Well somehow when I was wearing P130 I had this very interesting relation that as of right now I can’t put into concise statements just yet, but somehow, some way I do believe TAA and Anol might actually be related. I have a feeling that one molecule overlaps the other in molecular structure. Perhaps where Anol lets me down, TAA picks up and starts anew with out the chatter of Anol. In that regards the last several times I used P130 albeit only a few times, only once in public I had very intense feelings of a Anol + TAA vibe. It was as if the two individual molecules had been split (think dizygotic twins) to form either Anol or TAA had been spliced back together and out of it was born P130. Which of course leads to discussion and debate about BNOL. I’m still discovering this theory so bear with me here, but perhaps ANOL and BNOL are the dizygotic twins and P130 is the actual splicing of the best qualities of Anol and TAA to form P130. Both the chatter from Anol and Happy vibe from TAA were present and yet a semblance of unity was also prevalent. It was as if the proverbial wall had been removed without the voices from beyond calling up with damnation. Now many of you have no idea about these voices and how intense they can actually get. The guys who know and make a conscious choice to not medicate them with anti-anxiety pills, depression meds and what not, know full well of what I am talking about. I do hope none of you will ever know what I am talking about, that I really do hope. Those of you who do I think would be very interested in P130. It’s almost to me feels like a calming version of TAA and Anol mixed together. Now I’m not talking about physiological changes as that would simply be irresponsible. I’m merely suggesting for me it seems to have a calming effect on self doubts while visages of helpful self-chatter emerges. To someone like me this is scary that the voices are present, because those voices have always been of self-loathing, and even while they appear benign in nature, they still have been released. I’ve spent years through self hypnosis and personal ecology work to shut those voices off as to not listen to them. With P130 I discovered I started listening to them again, but they were positive. Hard to explain but so far that’s my analogy of P130 and the connection I have been able to make with TAA and ANOL. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/2 "2010-12-10T22:53:28Z")
I originally wrote this October 26th, 2010, 02:37 PM and thus had it stuck in mod until I could clear something up. Now that I have had time to research a bit more I feel obligated to the community to release my long awaited report. A few things have come to light on this molecule since my initial writings. I think that while generally happy in nature, [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) somehow also gets the person (wearer, effected, whomever) to not just stop the internal chatter, but somehow completely turns off that part of the brain. Where as sometimes internal dialogue is good to keep you from saying something not-nice, I’ve encountered numerous occasions where this chatter is absent and I’ve caught myself just saying whatever. As a seasoned researcher I am able to therefore adjust my behaviors to compensate for this compelling new reaction. However I’ve also noticed that those who effected who are not aware it is happening will just come out and say the darnedest things without any such care in the world. The normally bitchy people get really bitchy! ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/3 "2010-12-10T22:59:59Z")
As always Steve, I enjoy reading your posts, this one is no different. Thanks for taking the time to open up on your thoughts. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/4 "2010-12-10T23:04:23Z")
You know I was close to your assesment I had this in my Journal > [@](#): > > As for effects on others: > > - I believe that if people were exposed to this long enough, this will help take their anxieties down as well. I noticed this during social situations where people that were normally reserved were very friendly and more open than normal. It hasn’t been like the IO or CTTM where most people need to be opened and then conversations flow. The effect that P130 seems to have is a cross between the comfort of IH and the likeability of IS. ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/5 "2010-12-11T04:30:40Z")
Interesting report steve I wish I could get my hands on some p130 though 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/6 "2010-12-11T04:32:38Z")
However I’ve also noticed that those who effected who are not aware it is happening will just come out and say the darnedest things without any such care in the world. The normally bitchy people get really bitchy! That´s what i´ve noticed as well and i had to put on a lot of Meo-Est to counteract what was unleashed with [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) ! Pago ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/7 "2010-12-11T05:45:17Z")
Thanks for sharing Steve. I hope that all things will be well with you. I think -none sometimes gives me bad reactions; if I over do them, I tend to get headache for a few hours; if I don’t wash correctly, the following day also. Nothing emotionally or psychologically perturbing ever but still. On some occasions, I tend to get upset easier; Tisha said -none can sneak in and facilitate it. I don’t know- possibly, I guess? So I try to be more careful with -none ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/8 "2010-12-11T16:05:40Z")
OK I admit that I did get lost in your thought process about -none, TAA, and a-nol, and how all of this relates to P130. Plus I’m still reeling from the transparency of these posts. I really appreciate you letting us in. So what I did grab onto was the alpha-nol chattiness in your head and the negative self talk. I have read other posts where a-nol is mentioned as affecting the alpha vibe. I see where speaking your mind and being a talker can be seen as alpha, however over chattiness and speaking without thinking makes you look nervous and weak. There is a game I often play on conference calls. I learned it from a very powerful man in the business community. It’s called “He who talks first loses.” In this game a statement or question is asked in a group of people. Then everyone is silent because they don’t want to say anything about the statement or answer the question for fear of becoming responsible for something. Whoever speaks first always loses. They have basically volounteered themself for a task. Basically once they start talking they can’t stop and usually talk themselves into doing something they didn’t want to do. So being chatty and unable to endure silence is definitely a weakness. I have also noticed that some people seem to have higher a-nol signatures naturally. They are talkative and people are talkative around them. I mentioned this in the Theory forum about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and personalities. So my next question is does a certain level of beta-nol counter act the a-nol beta vibe? If so what is the ratio? Or is there another molecule that offsets that vibe and is it P130? Ok I may have rambled some in this post. I hope that makes sense. BTW, I don’t use anol either. I don’t see a reason to since I can’t get people to shut up anyway. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/9 "2010-12-11T17:43:21Z")
[P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) seems nolish… It makes one want to talk and gives thewm that mood lift! ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/10 "2010-12-11T20:38:58Z")
I totally agree that anol - and I also think bnol - intensify everything about internal chatter; it’s volume, it’s persistence, it’s quantity. I find anol and bnol differ predominately in regards to the standpoint each take to the internal talk and how it is related to; anol put’s emphasis on objective exterior, bnol on subjective interior. I find the internal chatter generated by anol feel’s more like that “voice in my head”, It’s not me, it’s someone on my shoulder whispering things. The chatter isn’t willed by the conscious ego and it doesn’t answer to it either. It has a life of it’s own. With bnol for me the thoughts feel more my own and I have more conscious control over them - the direction they take, etc. I used to much prefer anol because it made me feel really happy, talkative and energised, totally ready to socialise. Bnol used to make me more introspective and consumed by the chatter in my head to the extent that I didn’t feel much like leaving my head and socialising. With time, I’ve found, I’m able to consciously control how much I let bnol consume me and turn me inwards, as a consequence I can stay outward focused and get all the benefits of anol plus the million other persk of bnol. I now much prefer bnol. That sums it up though for me; Anol outward focused, Bnol inward focused. With anol people are much more likely to talk about outward orientated things like shopping and the weather, with bnol more about internal, subjective things like feelings, relationships etc. People are more likely to say what’s on their mind more around bnol because first and foremost bnol gets them in-touch with their mind. As a side note I find that TAC does the complete opposite of the nol’s; just completely removes all internal chatter and any wandering thoughts. I feel like an eagle when wearing TAC; completely present and focused, totally still and alert. Silent. It’s a complete refreshing, liberating, freedom from thoughts. Wearing high anone and TAC and I feel like a lion on the prowl. TAC is one track minded and it chases it’s goal with complete purpose. Rone also modulates internal chatter but to a much lesser degree and in a different way. In fact I find Rones emotional modulation to be slightly negative. By negative I mean it tends to numb thoughts (and their power to create emotions) rather than completely transcend them like it is the case with TAC. I can see why the “everything is going to be all right” signal of rone is a very important, very-fatherly, evolutionary necessity, in that sense the emotional modulation is very positive, as self medication, however, I find it negative. Another thing, I actually find I don’t enjoy music as much when I wear rone. It looses it’s emotion for me; Minor keys, Major Keys all seem to blend into a numbed down Key. I really feel Rone modulates emotion and as a result, thoughts - one of the largest generators of emotion - feel a bit numbed. Anyway, I’m way off topic. I’d agree that there is something very similar about TAA and anol. The happy-go-lucky feel and the exuberance of them both. The obvious difference, however, is that TAA doesn’t, directly, cause the chatter than anol does. I also feel TAA has a tinge of the TACness I’ve described above. Both the nol’s feel slightly ‘moist’ where as TAA is more ‘crisp’. But I don’t know if that is a description anyone can relate to (weird how pheromones can bring about, and warrant, these strange, esoteric descriptions. I feel like a particle physicist describing the ‘spin’ and ‘strangeness’ of a particle lol). p130 does sound like a very interesting molecule from this report, and all the other reports, I’ve read on it. Great reporting Steve. I wonder how much it compares to MX138, the sole survivor of the sunshine mixes? I found the mix to be a very interesting hybrid of anol and TAA. And it isn’t a mix I’ve been entirely successful at replicating using chemset anol and TAA - something else going on in there. ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/11 "2010-12-11T20:40:15Z")
My take on [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) is that of a child… Children don’t aren’t aware of a lot of the things that cause self doubt and social anxiety. I think P130 relieves a lot of those scenarios… I’ve really only wore this around my son and co-workers but from my experiences I must really just be a big kid at heart because when I wear P130 alone that is what I feel like. I don’t get as much child like feelings when wearing with none products or A314, but alone at 3-4 sprays I feel like a child. At least thats my brains way of deciphering the feeling… VERY NICE POST STEVE!!! ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/12 "2010-12-11T21:17:50Z")
Gormas you and I came to the same conclusion about the child like feeling of p130. I completely understand what you mean. It adds a bit of freedom. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-holy-trinity-taa-anol-p130-androtics-version-of-dynamic-social-homeostasis/43878/13 "2010-12-12T06:20:35Z")
Don’t get kind of self effect 😛