# The instant line. . . OIL-BASED **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 14, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398 "2007-12-14T05:18:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/1 "2007-12-14T05:18:40Z")
This may just be a personal opinion, but I think that it would be super cool if the instant line was available in an oil base. I’m not really asking for the oil base to be like the one used in A314, but just something that doesn’t require a long dry down time (Ammo has this problem IMO) and that doesn’t require a cover scent. I know that the best way to get pheros to work is with better diffusion so thats why most products are alcohol based, but A314 is oil based and it seems to have nice effects when I use it (Lots of favors & trust). This may also be a way to make the effects of the product last longer. Any other ideas or reasons why this is/n’t a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/2 "2007-12-14T06:29:22Z")
You ought to check out Strong [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) Slow-diffusion Matrix The strong neroli slow-diffusion matrix is just buying a 30 ml blue bottle from the Supplies menu at Androtics, and chosing the strong neroli option. You may be able to search for strong neroli slow diffusion matrix for how MHarris told tacitus about the stuff a while back, it is GREAT! > [@The slow diffusion matrix... continued...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-slow-diffusion-matrix-continued/340): > > Since there is a recognized problem of timed release and diffusion control, it seems like a good idea to open a thread on the subject… Some ideas for the base already: Good ol’ basic glycerin… downside may be that it is too hygroscopic and not enough lipophilic, so the pherom molecules my be repelled from the glycerol molecules and evaporate rapidly anyway, while the glycerol is soaking up sweat and atmospheric air.. Good ol’ basic mineral oil… downside is that it is too lipophilic, greas… Also, Tacitus said, if I recall correctly, and jojoba and some other oils can be used to extend diffusion. Tacitus also said something about wearing stuff under your clothes to slow diffusion. Oh, and remember, Tacitus seems, to me, to use large doses of some items. Very large doses. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/3 "2007-12-14T14:38:42Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > This may just be a personal opinion, but I think that it would be super cool if the instant line was available in an oil base. I’m not really asking for the oil base to be like the one used in A314, but just something that doesn’t require a long dry down time (Ammo has this problem IMO) and that doesn’t require a cover scent. > I know that the best way to get pheros to work is with better diffusion so thats why most products are alcohol based, but A314 is oil based and it seems to have nice effects when I use it (Lots of favors & trust). > This may also be a way to make the effects of the product last longer. > > Any other ideas or reasons why this is/n’t a good idea? I think it’s a great idea! Obviously it won’t be called Instant if it is oil based (Instant refers to fast effects which is possible due to alcohol base). But oil based versions of the mainstream products would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/4 "2007-12-14T23:26:32Z")
During the summer, when I wear short sleeves and open collars, I’m able to apply directly to skin, e.g., chest and forearms. In such cases I love using oil based products such as Scent of Eros and A314. I’d certainly buy products like [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to replace Scent of Eros if it came in an oil carrier. But it’s nice to have the choice. Most of the time I gotta spray on clothing or hair as no skin showing except face and hands… ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/5 "2007-12-14T23:44:27Z")
Thanks for the responses. I thought of this because with my lifestyle, I don’t really have the 10-30 minutes required for dry down and I’m not much of a scent wearing person anyways. But with A314, I can just go _drop apply drop apply. . . go!_ instead of _spray omg I smell like PARFUM uh oh s/he’s looking at me all funny_ I don’t think that developing oil based products would be too much trouble for androtics. They could use the bottles used for A314 and the oil without some/most/any of the scents/EOs. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/6 "2007-12-15T01:45:31Z")
> [@](#): > > I thought of this because with my lifestyle, I don’t really have the 10-30 minutes required for dry down and I’m not much of a scent wearing person anyways. Sheesh, just spray and run out the door. I do and it works fine every time. By the time I get to my destination–work, party, date’s home–all is well. The times I forgot and had to spray in the car a minute before picking up my date, were even better. The cologne (Burberry Weekend)and mones (NPA) were fresh in the air and she went absolutely nuts, praising the scent and going horndog on me. She totally forgot about lunch lead me back to her bedroom. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/7 "2007-12-15T02:55:29Z")
Here’s another idea: Could androtics begin selling high concentrations of pure [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), in smaller quantities? This would go with Gegogi’s idea of mixing in with a carrier of your choice. I know that androtics already sells high concentration bottles, but I don’t really want 5000mcg/s for $4000. But I think that I could go for like 5000mcg/s in a 1ml tube for ~$133. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-instant-line-oil-based/7398/8 "2007-12-16T06:09:20Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > Here’s another idea: > Could Androtics begin selling high concentrations of pure pheromones, in smaller quantities? This would go with Gegogi’s idea of mixing in with a carrier of your choice. I know that Androtics already sells high concentration bottles, but I don’t really want 5000mcg/s for $4000. But I think that I could go for like 5000mcg/s in a 1ml tube for ~$133. Now, thats a great idea. Reps for it. Tater has been planning to order high concentration togos recently. Somebody needs to test all this stuff at Tacitus-like levels and Tater isnt afraid to dilute, mix, composite, blend or … well, Tater isnt afraid of much.