# The Jake: NEWBIE Newz **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 11, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263 "2011-11-11T03:17:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/1 "2011-11-11T03:17:37Z")
Hi all. I am new here and have posted some things about my first [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) experience. If you have not seen the posts mixed in, I will get you up to speed. My first order that I received yesterday was the Spray & Go AMMOx2. I chose it because it was highly recommended by so many people. Well my first hit was last night at a gas station where this older lady would not stop staring at me (It was unbelievable. I was looking bummy too!) \*(1 spray on wrist (rub together) 1 spray on neck) Today I wore some at work and did not notice too much. The women my age were kind of chatty but the older women. MY GOD. “Hi, hello, good to see you…etc” MAN. It must be my body’s chemistry already to attract the older ones or 2x maybe too strong for ladies around my age maybe? So i go pay a bill at Dr’s office and immediately the receptionist is EXTREMELY chatty! Smiling & talking about nothing (weather, football, just nothing!!). She was older. I say late 40s. ☹ \*(1 spray on my throat 1 spray on my wrist and rubbed behind my ear) Someone chime in if you think I am doing something incorrectly as far as the sprays. 5 mins ago, I just ordered IH & TUTH!! MAN oh MAN.. I will experiment tomorrow at work with AMMO behind my ears only and see what happens. This weekend i will be hanging out with my friend and we will hit some bars. Do you think that TUTH/IH/AMMO would be toooo much? BTW: I put my AMMO in the refrigerator so it will stay cool. Hopefully while out I can keep it in my pocket. Please let me know if this is the right thing to do. Thanks guys!! -Jake ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/2 "2011-11-11T04:18:56Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > Hi all. > > I am new here and have posted some things about my first pheromone experience. If you have not seen the posts mixed in, I will get you up to speed. > > My first order that I received yesterday was the Spray & Go AMMOx2. I chose it because it was highly recommended by so many people. > Well my first hit was last night at a gas station where this older lady would not stop staring at me (It was unbelievable. I was looking bummy too!) > \*(1 spray on wrist (rub together) 1 spray on neck) > > Today I wore some at work and did not notice too much. The women my age were kind of chatty but the older women. MY GOD. “Hi, hello, good to see you…etc” > MAN. It must be my body’s chemistry already to attract the older ones or 2x maybe too strong for ladies around my age maybe? > So i go pay a bill at Dr’s office and immediately the receptionist is EXTREMELY chatty! Smiling & talking about nothing (weather, football, just nothing!!). She was older. I say late 40s. > ☹ > \*(1 spray on my throat 1 spray on my wrist and rubbed behind my ear) > > Someone chime in if you think I am doing something incorrectly as far as the sprays. > > 5 mins ago, I just ordered IH & TUTH!! > > MAN oh MAN.. > I will experiment tomorrow at work with AMMO behind my ears only and see what happens. > > This weekend i will be hanging out with my friend and we will hit some bars. > Do you think that TUTH/IH/AMMO would be toooo much? > > BTW: I put my AMMO in the refrigerator so it will stay cool. > Hopefully while out I can keep it in my pocket. Please let me know if this is the right thing to do. > > Thanks guys!! > > -Jake Well first off how old are you? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/3 "2011-11-11T05:09:55Z")
32 sorry ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/4 "2011-11-11T05:15:07Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > 32 sorry For being 32 I would say maybe only try 1 spray of 2x ammo or maybe even 1 full spray and a half of a spray, just to compare reactions there might be less hits from older and more from younger, less from both or more from both, just gotta work on finding that sweet spot. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/5 "2011-11-11T05:45:49Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > For being 32 I would say maybe only try 1 spray of 2x ammo or maybe even 1 full spray and a half of a spray, just to compare reactions there might be less hits from older and more from younger, less from both or more from both, just gotta work on finding that sweet spot. Thanks 4 the reply. I will try just behind my ears. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/6 "2011-11-11T09:50:03Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > but the older women. MY GOD. “Hi, hello, good to see you…etc” > MAN. It must be my body’s chemistry already to attract the older ones or 2x maybe too strong for ladies around my age maybe? > > Someone chime in if you think I am doing something incorrectly as far as the sprays. > > Do you think that TUTH/IH/AMMO would be toooo much? > > BTW: I put my AMMO in the refrigerator so it will stay cool. > Hopefully while out I can keep it in my pocket. Please let me know if this is the right thing to do. Welcome to your first OD! 😃 Yes, older women tend to be more responsive/attracted to higher none than younger. Your 2 sprays is probably fine for them but too much for the younger ones. Spray points are perfect - neck and wrists/forearms are amongst the best app points. So long as it is open to the air with a good blood flow, all is good. Be more careful about behind the ears, none can bind to hair, making it more difficult to remove and causing buildup/stinky problems. Also, nols break down to none, further compounding things. In the right sexually charged/uninhibited atmosphere and with people around your age, fine. Younger ones might find this a bit much and the old girls will just love you! 😃 You don’t need to keep it in the fridge, nor worry about it in your pocket - normal room temp/trmperate climes are fine. If anything, keeping it in a dark place is more important. Mones are pretty resilliant and need a very hot temp to damage them - some scent components are more volatile but we are talking dashboard on hot summer days type temp as a minimum level for damage. There must be a few thousand threads already if you want to search for C&V. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/7 "2011-11-12T05:03:13Z")
Sigh 11-11-11: 1 light spray of AMMO on my neck. Went to work got alot of chatter from women (around my age if not younger) in Cafe. They could not look at me in face for long periods of time. After lunch I sprayed another on my wrist. Got ALOT of attention from OLDER WOMEN AGAIN!!! UGHGUHUGH! 8 hrs later or so, I spray a little more on the left side of my neck and head to the bowling alley. I got some strange looks from MEN. I was not expecting that at all. The to-go spray seems to squirt out so much even I just want a lil bit. I REALLY think I ODed! AGAIN! Maybe I should have not gotten 2xAmmo ☹ Please input someone? —Jake My order of TUTH did not arrive today ☹ maybe tomorrow.. I think I waited to late to try and overnight it… OH WELL… ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/8 "2011-11-12T19:38:54Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > Sigh > > 11-11-11: > 1 light spray of AMMO on my neck. > > Went to work got alot of chatter from women (around my age if not younger) in Cafe. They could not look at me in face for long periods of time. > > After lunch I sprayed another on my wrist. Got ALOT of attention from OLDER WOMEN AGAIN!!! UGHGUHUGH! > > 8 hrs later or so, I spray a little more on the left side of my neck and head to the bowling alley. > I got some strange looks from MEN. I was not expecting that at all. > The to-go spray seems to squirt out so much even I just want a lil bit. > > I REALLY think I ODed! AGAIN! > Maybe I should have not gotten 2xAmmo ☹ > > Please input someone? > > —Jake > > My order of TUTH did not arrive today ☹ maybe tomorrow.. > I think I waited to late to try and overnight it… > OH WELL… I would try to do a half a spray if possible and if not just get an eye dropper, open the to-go bottle and just use the dropper to apply it if you think you are od on 1 spray. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/9 "2011-11-13T07:14:46Z")
11-12-2011: I went to bowling alley. I was able to spray a little squirt on my neck and add some Gucci cologne on top of it just to see what it would do. Well I got there and I hope that this was just a crazy coincidence but this guy saw me in the pro shop and he immediately told me his life history, how long he bowled, how old he would be this year, etc. I DONT CARE!!! I was kinda freaked out about AMMOx2 at the moment but immediately recovered. These 2 FINE young ladies were standing talking to their men and one gave me eye contact REALLY hard and could not stop staring…I winked at her and she LITERALLY followed me to the other side of the room…It was crazy.. I went to the other side and this lady immediately started talking to me (older) and wanted a hug and a kiss…WTF??? I dont think the women around my age are getting anything…I think if I use a FULL spray, older women are reacting.. Should I wait until I leave the house and spray it on or should i do what i have been doing spray and then go out? Please advise. Thanks – Jake ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/10 "2011-11-13T08:03:57Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > 11-12-2011: > I went to bowling alley. I was able to spray a little squirt on my neck and add some Gucci cologne on top of it just to see what it would do. > > Well I got there and I hope that this was just a crazy coincidence but this guy saw me in the pro shop and he immediately told me his life history, how long he bowled, how old he would be this year, etc. I DONT CARE!!! I was kinda freaked out about AMMOx2 at the moment but immediately recovered. > > These 2 FINE young ladies were standing talking to their men and one gave me eye contact REALLY hard and could not stop staring…I winked at her and she LITERALLY followed me to the other side of the room…It was crazy.. > > I went to the other side and this lady immediately started talking to me (older) and wanted a hug and a kiss…WTF??? > > I dont think the women around my age are getting anything…I think if I use a FULL spray, older women are reacting.. > > Should I wait until I leave the house and spray it on or should i do what i have been doing spray and then go out? > > Please advise. > > Thanks > > – Jake I always spray, wait 15 min for all of the scents to die down and then go out, which is what I am assuming most people on here do. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/11 "2011-11-13T17:10:03Z")
Yup - Spray 15-30 mins before you go meet your target. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) in F21 is strong though but I don’t find that people respond badly to just the scent. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/12 "2011-11-14T03:13:42Z")
11-13-2011: 1 - spray on the neck (light) of Ammo x2 1 - spray on throat (light) of Ammo x2 1 - spray on wrist of GUCCI Headed out and immediately receive eye contact with older lady. She was smiling pretty hard (AGAIN what a weird result) Ran across another lady is say around late mid 40s early 50s. She was VERYYYYY CHATTY! Smiling, touching me…it was amazing… Pretty much got alot of hits from the women that i was talking to or making eye contact to… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/13 "2011-11-14T22:10:45Z")
GOT MY NEW ORDER TODAY!! - IO x1 - IH x1 - MX427 (what ever this is) Unfortunately they leaked in the FedEx packing and the smells are STRRROONG but i still have enough to play with.. I will keep you guys posted. -Jake ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/14 "2011-11-15T00:59:39Z")
Welp: I sprayed this: 1 spray of IO x1 on my wrist & neck 1 spray of IH x1 on my wrist and rubbed on back of neck 1 spray of AMMO x2 on my inner arms. WELP! I think I either ODed or the left overs from where it was leaking. Female companion said she smelled Onions and Musk… BUT she was VERY VERY VERY chatty… I mean EXTREMELY chatty… We went to the grocery store and the people were looking at us and stepping out of the way…it was weird… I dont know… I think I have found the sweet spots but i may be spraying too much.. I dont know.. We will see! –The Jake ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/15 "2011-11-15T06:08:42Z")
Aiight: Got the rest of my ARSENAL!!! i m so amped!! ## So far: IO IH TUTH IS AMMO x2 MAN O MAN! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/16 "2011-11-16T03:59:10Z")
## Alright 11/15/2011 IS - 1 spray on wrist 1 spray on neck Ammo - 1 spray on wrists IH - 1 spray on forearms Get to work and I did not notice too much. I was wanting to see if I got the respect that IS really claims to give. Immediately my superior greets me pleasantly and was really nice to me. Kind of weird. So I assume it was working?? It is after lunch and I am thinking it is wearing off so I got to the bathroom and skeet a lil bit behind my ears a bit (this particular bottle is LEAKING BTW so I had to wipe it off on my shirt). I had a meeting with a customer and it just seems as if we got through the meeting very smooth. The customer was wanting me to be in control and was passing the buck for me to be the boss. Interesting. Very interesting After work, I go bowling. I skeet a lil more IS on my forearms and go inside. Immediate I am greeting by some gentlemen who normally dont talk to me. They were handshaking me, hugging me and just having a good convo (I was weirded out!). All in all, I think IS worked well. I THINK. Any thoughts? I still think I am not spraying in the right places or I think i am spraying too much. Does anyone know how long each phero lasts in between a refresh??? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/17 "2011-11-16T09:41:43Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > Welp: > > 1 spray of IO x1 on my wrist & neck > 1 spray of IH x1 on my wrist and rubbed on back of neck > 1 spray of AMMO x2 on my inner arms. > > WELP! I think I either ODed or the left overs from where it was leaking. > Female companion said she smelled Onions and Musk… > BUT she was VERY VERY VERY chatty… > I mean EXTREMELY chatty… Equal quanties of IO/IH is pretty much the CTTM2 recipe and the official replacement. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/18 "2011-11-16T14:00:27Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > I was wanting to see if I got the respect that IS really claims to give. IS is the happy sauce, not the respect sauce. 🙄 A314 is the respect potion, Sir Jake.😉 ---
**Author:** ![henk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/henk/32/5189_2.png) [@henk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/henk)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/19 "2011-11-16T18:31:59Z")
> [@The\_Jake](#): > > I still think I am not spraying in the right places or I think i am spraying too much. > Does anyone know how long each phero lasts in between a refresh??? It depends on a lot of things. Temperature, skin type, quantity of mones. I think it is better to find out what the effect of a product alone is. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@The\_Jake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-jake-newbie-newz/53263/20 "2011-11-20T04:04:26Z")
11-19-2011 OK headed out with my lady. Showered and applied: 1 spray AMMOx2 wrist and neck 1 spray IS wrist and neck 1 spray IH on TOP of hands rubbed in 1 spray TUTH on Chest and 1 spray on back of neck 1 spray MX427 or 2 Immediate reaction was the scent of watermelon. Weird because of no AGGRESSION!! Just chatty as heck! Im feeling really good though. Very chatty myself and very confident (im dressed really nice too). Head out to the stores and immediately i get hits while with my lady!! Eye contact, whispers and just watching me. AGAIN the strangest thing, no AGGRESSIVENESS from my lady. So i go to bathroom and spray more AMMOx2 and come back. She notices how good the smell was so I told her they had spray in the bathroom at the mall (clearly lying). Keep in mind we are in the car together i get nothing but GREAT CONVO. No touching,no slick talking no nothing. A great day though. Im just trying to figure out why the TUTH or Ammo did not even do much??? Chime in someone. What am I doing incorrectly??? My idea was she was going to rip my clothes off! ??? –Jake