# The "MAD TATER" Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/341 "2007-11-27T08:36:59Z")
SteveO, i think 1:4 is correct. One of the pheros was massively weak and i only ordered 2.5mcg dosage. Fortunately, one of the MX in my stash had it at 12.5mcg and i was able to try 25mcg:7.5mcg with reasonable volume. Its never good to DRIP pheros. I know i posted on here about a great kissing session i had, but i cant find it. Maybe i should PM Visionary… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/342 "2007-11-27T08:38:23Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Start at 12.5 mcg P86 to 2.5 mcg P83. I archived some of my notes and need to double-check that, though. Im sure i have the ratio somewhere here. Well than that explains a lot. I’m usually reversed on ratios:o ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/343 "2007-11-27T08:40:45Z")
And uh…steveo…i think youre obsessing about Jasmin. Maybe she really has been slipping you some TAC. May i borrow $50,000? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/344 "2007-11-27T08:46:24Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > Well than that explains a lot. I’m usually reversed on ratios:o Yeah, it took a lot to find my sweet spot too. I think i was at 3-5x of my composite. That should be about 50mcg P86 to 12.5mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). Just be careful. It felt almost hallucinogenically good the first time i tried it. …hoping Visionary will swing around and find the post i made about it… …anytime now… …real, real soon… _ **VISIONARY, WAKE UP!!!** _ ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/345 "2007-11-27T08:52:34Z")
Okay…Taters gonna ask a difficult question… What do you do when youre waiting for your pheros to arrive. No illegal activities, please, unless you guarantee i wont get caught… ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/346 "2007-11-27T08:57:45Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Yeah, it took a lot to find my sweet spot too. I think i was at 3-5x of my composite. That should be about 50mcg P86 to 12.5mcg P83. Just be careful. It felt almost hallucinogenically good the first time i tried it. > > …hoping Visionary will swing around and find the post i made about it… > > …anytime now… > > …real, real soon… > > _ **VISIONARY, WAKE UP!!!** _ Aye aye Tater sir! 😉 Okay there is this thread: > [@P86/P83 = Touch me and Touch me now](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383): > > P86 seems very real. P87/P88 im not so sure about. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) seems related. There isnt much on these. P86 makes everything feel deep and sweet like your first biscuit with real butter and little bit of sugar on top. P83 is some kind of crave activator, the difference between Tater wants a biscuit and Tater wants all the biscuits and he wants them NOW! I assure you that never happens in real life. Why doesnt anyone talk more about these? And then there are Tater’s famous kissing sessions 🆒 : > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/1): > > Things the MAD TATER (mwahaha!) has learned. Androstenone can get your #\*$ whupped, fired or worse. And it will be your fault. Instant Openness at high doses can cause what is best described as Audible Diarrhea. Pre-teens and senior citizens will talk until their lips burn off. Instant Honesty is some scary stuff. Wear it at home for a few days before you hit the road. Otherwise, it’s “Hey, did I ever tell you guys about that time I got naked in a gay biker bar?” CTTM is underrated. Social but… MadisonTate (August 31, 2007): “…38. Most fun youll ever have on second base. 10mcg [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/)+35mcg [P87](https://pheromonelabs.com/)+2.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)+50mcg [MEO-EST](https://phera.com/)…” > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/14): > > Maybe because it isnt buffered, CTTM is short-lived but very reliable. You may have doubts about IO or IH. CTTM works for 3 hours and leaves no doubt. The other #4 mixes calm them down so much they either listen or fall asleep. Race-specific mixes that are pretty reliable. The order and delay of adding these mones is important. A+B+C is not the same as C+B+A for some reason. You just have to try it. Makes touching feel magical. Kissing feels like static electricity. I shudder to think… MadisonTate (September 2, 2007): “…38. You just have to try it. Makes touching feel magical. Kissing feels like static electricity. I shudder to think what other activities would be like. It might be too much…” > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/33): > > PheroQuirk, reread my notes. its P86 so i have the right one. i need to go reread the annals of Tacitus. I dont remember anything like a talk show. Tater likes static cling so no fabric softener either. I noted that moving, touching, breathing felt good and hearty. Like when youve been working out and your body feels nice and tight, a little warm, alive, and you want to be touched not as much for sexual reasons as because it would feel so good. Tater had one kissing session where he could feel … MadisonTate (September 3, 2007): "PheroQuirk, reread my notes. its [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) so i have the right one. i need to go reread the annals of Tacitus. I dont remember anything like a talk show. Tater likes static cling so no fabric softener either. I noted that moving, touching, breathing felt good and hearty. Like when youve been working out and your body feels nice and tight, a little warm, alive, and you want to be touched not as much for sexual reasons as because it would feel so good. Tater had one kissing session where he could feel every line on her lips. it was almost unbearably good. the most delicate touch, the slightest change in pressure sent tingles coursing through the universe. it wouldve been painful to do anything more intense. ended up holding her and simmering. like when you have the flu and somone drapes a warm blanket over you. [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/)+LTR would be addictive." > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/106): > > EST. Amazingly social with men, even at dosages \< 1 mcg. Becomes attractive to women at 40 mcg + and becomes a sensual booster at 100 mcg or so. Very reliable with men, not as much with women. MEO-EST. Its like MSG. A little MEO-EST, 5-20mcg, is good for almost every mix. Its a crude booster and a good way to reduce the volume of mixes. At dosages around 75 mcg or higher, it seems to keep the low dosage pheros, in a mix, or on your skin, active, which isnt always the desired effect. Example: a … MadisonTate (October 3, 2007): "…[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). Makes it feel good to be touched. Gets real stinky at dosages \> 60 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) but covers easily and makes kissing wonderful. P86. Makes you want to be touched. Also makes ugly/nasty things seem worse. Intensifier maybe? Rust on a car seemed just disgusting, like looking at a deep, infected flesh wound…" ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/347 "2007-11-27T18:40:29Z")
[P86/P83 = Touch me and Touch me now](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383) …thats what i was looking for. Couldnt find it for anything. Good thing Visionary is better than Google, and without the ads!!! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/348 "2007-11-28T06:05:03Z")
Being without pheros has definitely caused Tater to lose his edge. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/349 "2007-11-28T14:12:27Z")
Would anyone be interested in an online mix creator? Tater is waiting to see what Jasmin et al have in store for us, but if that doesnt include one, Tater may release his own in-house tool for phero carnage. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/350 "2007-11-28T15:22:01Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Okay…Taters gonna ask a difficult question… > > What do you do when youre waiting for your pheros to arrive. No illegal activities, please, unless you guarantee i wont get caught… I feel your pain Tater, I am just about out of them to. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![normano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/df788c/32.png) [@normano](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/normano)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/351 "2007-11-30T03:07:48Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Would anyone be interested in an online mix creator? Tater is waiting to see what Jasmin et al have in store for us, but if that doesnt include one, Tater may release his own in-house tool for phero carnage. Oh yea that sounds very useful. I’ve been thinking about throwing something together to log hits on my cell just haven’t gotten around to it yet. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/352 "2007-11-30T07:30:03Z")
You intend to enter your hits on your cell phone? How long have you been a sado-masochist? ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/353 "2007-11-30T09:08:49Z")
LOL. Logging hits wouldn’t be that bad to keep track for updating the journals you guys have been starting. inkling is officially out of alpha androstenol and had promised herself come talk to me 2, spaceland or at the very least a chocolatini instant openness bottle next purchase. With the womens customizations out of stock looks like I’ll be waiting for a while too. Though Tater I blame you for the store being out of stock. You could sell bug spray if you posted about it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cbot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@cbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cbot)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/354 "2007-11-30T12:01:59Z")
In Tater we trust 😃 ---
**Author:** ![normano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/df788c/32.png) [@normano](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/normano)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/355 "2007-11-30T13:05:50Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > You intend to enter your hits on your cell phone? How long have you been a sado-masochist? lol I was thinking more of a counter to keep a running tally of the type of hits than anything. Bind the type of hit to specific keys combination (kinda like the opera speed dial does) to make data entry a little easier and handle hit intensity like one of those annoying surveys with a scale from 1 to 10. Type of reaction: \*1 Smile \*2 DIHL \*3 Touch \*4 Reaction to scent \*5 Initiated contact … Intensity: 0 Eh ---------- 10 Omg wtf Its a little early and I just woke up so this may make less sense than I normally do lol. This would just be a quick way to keep a running tally of hits since you would remember the “omg wtf” type of hits easily, but not some of the simpler ones that may be just as important to keep track of for research purposes. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/356 "2007-12-01T06:27:14Z")
I think the stickiness wore off! Thanks Jasmin or whoever unglued Tater. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/357 "2007-12-01T06:28:48Z")
> [@inkling](#): > > LOL. Logging hits wouldn’t be that bad to keep track for updating the journals you guys have been starting. > > inkling is officially out of alpha androstenol and had promised herself come talk to me 2, spaceland or at the very least a chocolatini instant openness bottle next purchase. With the womens customizations out of stock looks like I’ll be waiting for a while too. Though Tater I blame you for the store being out of stock. You could sell bug spray if you posted about it. 😉 Inkling, youre gonna make Tater blush. Now about that bug spray, if you order 3 bottles, ill throw in a purse-size togo. How many will you take? ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/358 "2007-12-01T06:35:50Z")
LOL! None, I’m saving my cash for Wednesday!!! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/359 "2007-12-02T03:35:09Z")
By popular request, Tater is going to give an example of compositing. Lets hope i get this right the first time. So you have Instant Honesty 4x, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2x, a fine bottle of Bulgari AQVA and a test vial. You dont have CTTM, but you would like to approximate its 1:1 alpha:beta ratio with your IH and IO. Were going to neglect the fragrance content of IH/IO. We also arent going to consider balancing for phero content, which makes things more difficult. Lets say that you normally wear 1 spray/squirt/dab/whatever of Bulgari. Once were done, youll need to wear twice as much since were going to make a 50/50 composite. Obviously IH 4x has 4x the phero content as IH 1x. IH 2x has 2x the phero content as IO 1x. To balance have equal pheros from both, you need 1 part IH 4x for every 2 parts IO. So your ratio is 1:2 for IH4x:IO2x. If you mix 1 part IH 4x with 2 parts IO, you end up with 50% IH and 50% IO. You also want 50% of the final mix to be Bulgari, so youll need 3 parts Bulgari to match the 3 parts of your IH:IO mixture. So your final mix ratio is 1:2:3 IH4x:IO2x:Bulgari. Add 1+2+3 and you get 6 parts total. Take your test vial and mark it in sixths from top to bottom. Fill it to the first mark (1/6th full) with IH 4x. Fill it to the third mark (3/6ths or 1/2 full) with IO 2x. Fill it the rest of the way with Bulgari. Cap it. Give it a good shake for luck. Then, put it in a dark, room temperature drawer for a few days. Remember that youll need to use more of the final mixture to get the same strength on your Bulgari because the composite is only 50% Bulgari. Tater finds that waiting for a few days makes a smooth composite since the fragrances and pheros leach together in their common alcohol base. Unless the phero content is extreme, you wont be able to distinguish between straight Bulgari and your spiked brew unless you know what to look for. If your target likes Bulgari and breathes deeply as a result, you have a very potent delivery system. ---
**Author:** ![Smudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smudge)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/360 "2007-12-02T08:58:28Z")
I think, in terms of brewing, one needs to carefully consider the choice of mones and fragrance. For example, premixing A314 has given me some nasty brews and I will never try that again. The choice of fragrance is also important. Some fragrances such as Bvl Aqua, Swiss Army (by Swiss Army) and Benetton Sports are sharp and can dominate the scents of pheros. On the other hand, some such as Bvl Extreme PH and TDC Divine Bergamote (or, actually, anything by Jean Claude Ellena) are so transparent and delicate that they are utterly useless even for covering the neroli smell in the Instant lines, let along A314. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330.md?page=17) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330.md?page=19)