# The "MAD TATER" Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 22

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/423 "2007-12-21T06:32:51Z")

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> [@The\_GQ](#):
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> Tater you know you can’t describe and lay out a mix of yours without going atleast into some detail of what it did for you. I would like to also know how many sprays/ amount of mcg is considered as “heavy” in your post above. I must say though if you do provide a reply expect to be tagged as King of Biscuits by me. 😛

Tater considers heavy to be more than 8x a single spray or dose. So IH 16X is heavy IH. Sometimes im loose with the definition, but heavy means more than the average person would ever wear.

The particular mixes I mentioned give heavy hits with women being more than happy to strike up conversations if you hang out close enough to them and look receptive. You need about 5 minutes of close exposure, like standing in line, but Ive had great luck with having her turn around and make a comment, just anything to get me talking to her. Its fun having women initiate with you. Theres nothing like it. Ive even had two women in a grocery store line start competing with each other over me and i hadnt done anything more than nod, smile and laugh on occasion.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/424 "2007-12-22T03:28:14Z")

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Tater wonders if everyone takes the same approach with pheros. Theres a lot of window-of-opportunity stuff with pheros. You need to make a strong first impression and do whatever you can to make it last. You can get some degree of do-over, but not a lot.

Tater suggests that if youre going to wear pheros, you should always go for the KILL. If youre doing something you shouldnt be doing, dont do it. If youre doing something, you should go all the way with it, and you should do it right.

What do i mean by that? If youre going after a particular person, dont aim for just the little push. Aim for dizzy-fascinated with you. Always go for the hardest hit you think you can pull off because its questionable whether you get a second shot or the second shot will be anywhere near as strong. Be brutal. Dont have her saying theres-something-about-that-guy, have her falling over herself with admiration. Back it down slowly if you need to, but strike home with the first bullet so your target never has an opportunity to move away from your secondary hits. Leave an impression that will not fade easily. This again ties into Taters world dominance theory. Strike hard, deep and fast. Never take advantage of anyone, but always get the upper hand if its offered to you.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/425 "2007-12-22T06:18:58Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
>
> Tater wonders if everyone takes the same approach with pheros. Theres a lot of window-of-opportunity stuff with pheros. You need to make a strong first impression and do whatever you can to make it last. You can get some degree of do-over, but not a lot.
> 
> Tater suggests that if youre going to wear pheros, you should always go for the KILL. If youre doing something you shouldnt be doing, dont do it. If youre doing something, you should go all the way with it, and you should do it right.
> 
> What do i mean by that? If youre going after a particular person, dont aim for just the little push. Aim for dizzy-fascinated with you. Always go for the hardest hit you think you can pull off because its questionable whether you get a second shot or the second shot will be anywhere near as strong. Be brutal. Dont have her saying theres-something-about-that-guy, have her falling over herself with admiration. Back it down slowly if you need to, but strike home with the first bullet so your target never has an opportunity to move away from your secondary hits. Leave an impression that will not fade easily. This again ties into Taters world dominance theory.

Big Sugarplummmmmm filled buscuits for Tater!.. you nailed it again.

Yep, best if you pull the rug out from under 'em…straight up.

If you know your target…plan accordingly…clean your weapon and bring your arsenal…then go in for the kill…take your best shot …you may only get one…

> [@MadisonTate](#):
>
> Strike hard, deep and fast. Never take advantage of anyone, but always get the upper hand if its offered to you.

… have enough slight of hand to leave 'em standing… 😉

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/426 "2007-12-22T21:54:11Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
>
> Big Sugarplummmmmm filled buscuits for Tater!.. you nailed it again.
> 
> Yep, best if you pull the rug out from under 'em…straight up.
> 
> If you know your target…plan accordingly…clean your weapon and bring your arsenal…then go in for the kill…take your best shot …you may only get one…
> 
> … have enough slight of hand to leave 'em standing… 😉

Thanks, Bella.

Tater also speculates that if you do have a relationship with someone, they will take great joy in recounting how strongly they were attracted to you and how much fun it was (and hopefully still is). Nobody would take a wishy-washy relationship over a flaming hot one.

I think we guys are the same. I dont want a woman who is just okay. I want her to knock me off my feet and have me wondering if I was the one who pursued her, or if she just lets me think that.

When it comes to attraction, people appreciate being #%^@$-slapped.

Try to do things for the benefit of others. I know its hard to do, but dont use your pheros selfishly. Tater takes the approach of wearing pheros to make those around me happy, to get everyone involved with me, to be approachable and (yes) BE the party. Not for your own ego, but for the sake of those around you.

Tater follows the old fashion industry adage that you should dress the best you can, not because you want to show off, but because you can make people happy by being well-dressed. Its an OBLIGATION for those who have the skill. Yeah, i know the new fashion industry is mostly cocky-birds and flame-dappers but the genuinely elegant dress for those around them. People delighted in what Princess Diana wore, or Grace Kelly or Fred Astaire. But even with all that affection, they saw it as a responsibility to do everything they could with what God gave them. I hear Valentino even pays attention to what he wears to the gym. Oh, and most guys need to learn that dressing well DOES NOT mean wearing a suit and tie. It means when you leave home, youre bringing it.

When you wear pheros, bring it.

Tater thinks using pheros to improve yourself is a wonderful thing. Be confident. Be sexy. Be social.

Tater thinks using pheros for selfish gain is questionable. Never take advantage of anyone. This is powerful stuff and i know first-hand that its possible to move people in directions they dont want to go. With power comes the responsibility to use it ethically and morally. Dont ask Tater how to use pheros to steal someones wife or get a devoutly religious virgin to sleep with you. Yes, it is possible, but thats not the way i roll.

Tater thinks using pheros to benefit others. IFM/EST to comfort people at a funeral. CTTM to get people talking at a social gathering. A314 to calm the people youre presenting to. Making a point of dancing with wallflower girl while youre wearing Ammo and bringing her into your social group.

I know im rambling, but its amazing just how much social good you can accomplish. And the cool thing is that, without looking out for yourself, both men and women will flock to you and want to do things for you.

The PUA stuff is mostly valid and informative, but getting someone to do what they dont want to do, and that isnt beneficial to them, is just salesmanship of the evil sort. Everyone can benefit from getting rid of self-defeating actions. But i totally disagree with the opportunistic goals set by the-game and mystery. People arent objects.

Its complex, asking everyone to both bring-in-the nuclear-weapons and be ethical, but i think most understand the right balance. Whether its pheros, fragrances, social skills, business acumen or whatever, world domination is simple. Get your big guns and…

BRING IT!!!

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/427 "2007-12-22T22:06:27Z")

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Dont underestimate the power of having eau de woman on you. I dont mean Dirty or copulins, just having the scent of a woman having hugged you.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/428 "2007-12-22T22:11:52Z")

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Tater thinks heavy [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) + heavy EST + heavy Instant Honesty with a STRONG cover is interesting. Women gravitate toward you. They dont approach, but female strangers dont want to leave. The EST seems to cover the IFM scent a bit, but its potent stuff at 4x. Men seem confused but friendly enough. Possible negative respect.

Oh… IFM:EST:IH 2x 4:250mcg:8 composited with Hanae Mori at 80%.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/429 "2007-12-22T22:26:10Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
>
> Tater has found that women of Japanese, Chinese, African and Native American descent tend to pick up uncomposited pheros very easily. There is much more potential for hard hits with careful fragrance and phero balancing than you might think.
> 
> These groups are better affected by pheros that are in-line with nature rather than blatantly artificial, unbalanced amounts of pheros. There are a few pheros where no balancing is necessary, but Tater keeps coming back to the theory that the ideal mix for a person is one that balances their pheros which would then be an all-purpose mix for them.

What do you mean by composited pheros?

Lately I’ve bought the books Essence & Alchemy, and Luca Turin’s The Secret of Scent.. I’m intrigued by Turin’s molecule theory..

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**Author:** ![Eslite119](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eslite119/32/176_2.png) [@Eslite119](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eslite119)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/430 "2007-12-22T22:26:52Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
>
> Thanks, Bella.
> 
> Tater also speculates that if you do have a relationship with someone, they will take great joy in recounting how strongly they were attracted to you and how much fun it was (and hopefully still is). Nobody would take a wishy-washy relationship over a flaming hot one.
> 
> I think we guys are the same. I dont want a woman who is just okay. I want her to knock me off my feet and have me wondering if I was the one who pursued her, or if she just lets me think that.
> 
> When it comes to attraction, people appreciate being #%^@$-slapped.
> 
> Try to do things for the benefit of others. I know its hard to do, but dont use your pheros selfishly. Tater takes the approach of wearing pheros to make those around me happy, to get everyone involved with me, to be approachable and (yes) BE the party. Not for your own ego, but for the sake of those around you.
> 
> Tater follows the old fashion industry adage that you should dress the best you can, not because you want to show off, but because you can make people happy by being well-dressed. Its an OBLIGATION for those who have the skill. Yeah, i know the new fashion industry is mostly cocky-birds and flame-dappers but the genuinely elegant dress for those around them. People delighted in what Princess Diana wore, or Grace Kelly or Fred Astaire. But even with all that affection, they saw it as a responsibility to do everything they could with what God gave them. I hear Valentino even pays attention to what he wears to the gym. Oh, and most guys need to learn that dressing well DOES NOT mean wearing a suit and tie. It means when you leave home, youre bringing it.
> 
> When you wear pheros, bring it.
> 
> Tater thinks using pheros to improve yourself is a wonderful thing. Be confident. Be sexy. Be social.
> 
> Tater thinks using pheros for selfish gain is questionable. Never take advantage of anyone. This is powerful stuff and i know first-hand that its possible to move people in directions they dont want to go. With power comes the responsibility to use it ethically and morally. Dont ask Tater how to use pheros to steal someones wife or get a devoutly religious virgin to sleep with you. Yes, it is possible, but thats not the way i roll.
> 
> Tater thinks using pheros to benefit others. Instant Female Magic/EST to comfort people at a funeral. CTTM to get people talking at a social gathering. A314 to calm the people youre presenting to. Making a point of dancing with wallflower girl while youre wearing Ammo and bringing her into your social group.
> 
> I know im rambling, but its amazing just how much social good you can accomplish. And the cool thing is that, without looking out for yourself, both men and women will flock to you and want to do things for you.
> 
> The PUA stuff is mostly valid and informative, but getting someone to do what they dont want to do, and that isnt beneficial to them, is just salesmanship of the evil sort. Everyone can benefit from getting rid of self-defeating actions. But i totally disagree with the opportunistic goals set by the-game and mystery. People arent objects.
> 
> Its complex, asking everyone to both bring-in-the nuclear-weapons and be ethical, but i think most understand the right balance. Whether its pheros, fragrances, social skills, business acumen or whatever, world domination is simple. Get your big guns and…
> 
> BRING IT!!!

Tater, I must say I’m glad to read this post at such a perfect time. I got into pheros about 8 months ago and do to certain difficulties that I’ve faced during the recent days, I began to question why I got in. Was also wondering if everything was worth it. Your post gave me answer of resounding “YES.” I got into pheros for social and personal development and in the process I enjoyed the people around me being happy. What you said above, I agree 100%.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/431 "2007-12-24T08:37:03Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
>
> What do you mean by composited pheros?
> 
> Lately I’ve bought the books Essence & Alchemy, and Luca Turin’s The Secret of Scent.. I’m intrigued by Turin’s molecule theory..

I’m looking forward to “The Perfumes Guide” mid-next year.

What i mean by all this is Tater suspects some groups, based on their dietary patterns, are much more able to detect pheros that are unevenly distributed. The real benefit to compositing over spraying on in layers may be that everything is consistent and doesnt set off as many alarms. I suspect there may be a rotting food or metamorphosis warning programmed into our olfactory senses.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/432 "2007-12-24T16:54:49Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
>
> I’m looking forward to “The Perfumes Guide” mid-next year.
> 
> What i mean by all this is Tater suspects some groups, based on their dietary patterns, are much more able to detect pheros that are unevenly distributed. The real benefit to compositing over spraying on in layers may be that everything is consistent and doesnt set off as many alarms. I suspect there may be a rotting food or metamorphosis warning programmed into our olfactory senses.

Like mixing EO’s and pheros, letting them settle etc..

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/433 "2007-12-24T23:56:38Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Faves:
> 
> SM: A314, Ammo, Come Talk To Me , Dirty, Instant Female Magic, Instant Gentleman, Instant Honesty , Instant Openness, Instant Sexiness, Instant Shine, Spaceland, Turn Up the Heat
> 
> P: EST, MEO-EST, 74, 79, 80, 83, 86, 87, 88, 90, 93, 98, TAAOIL, TAC, TAF, TAH, TAL
> 
> MX: 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 113, 114, 115, 116, 134, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 156, 157, 158, 159, 177, 178, 203, 204, 222,252
> 
> [Mad Tater Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330), 5th most popular

Ive been told that my signature is causing problems for folks doing Google searches of the forum. Tater wants to play nice, so hes going to strip his signature of product name mentions.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/434 "2007-12-26T02:49:34Z")

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Tater would like to point out that lines are the most productive means of testing on strangers he has found so far. You get just about the right amount of time (5 minutes or so), have at least one captive person (the checkout person), have ample things to talk about with the people in front of and behind you. Its just perfect.

Ive often noticed that i can get a conversation going and have someone in the next aisle or even two aisles away join the discussion. Its just so amazing when that happens!

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**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/435 "2007-12-26T03:14:05Z")

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I agree Tater. When I go to the grocery store (and I am not in a hurry) I do not look for the shortest line. I look for the line with the most attractive female at the end/in front of me. It is very easy to strike up a conversation about what you have in your cart or what she has in her cart. Women love to talk about what you are planning to do with some of the items in your cart and to tell you what they are planning to do with some of the items in their cart. Be cautious using Whipped Cream or Cucumber jokes etc… DrZorters

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/436 "2007-12-27T04:22:06Z")

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Forget food chat. Ive had women offer to cook for me or even suggest that she really doesnt want to make dinner but nobody has asked her out.

Lines are Taters new favorite place to phero-test.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/437 "2007-12-27T04:23:51Z")

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Whos up for a Tater Tot Challenge for New Years Eve parties?

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**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/438 "2007-12-27T04:26:36Z")

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I’m In. What’s your plan? DrZorters

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**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/439 "2007-12-27T04:40:43Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
>
> Forget food chat. Ive had women offer to cook for me or even suggest that she really doesnt want to make dinner but nobody has asked her out.
> 
> Lines are Taters new favorite place to phero-test.

You better call that mix that gets them wanting to cook for you the “Tater Shake and Bake Mix” 😉.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/440 "2007-12-27T06:34:22Z")

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> [@DrZorters](#):
>
> I’m In. What’s your plan? DrZorters

Im thinking 12 drops of A314. Should be fun. Going for it this weekend.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/441 "2007-12-27T07:35:06Z")

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Was at the supermarket the other day and a girl looking like Kristin Kreuk forgot her stuffed olives.. I found her and got them to her. I barely got a thank you, and she wasn’t too much into conversation..

Then again she probably already had a bf and I didn’t have any pheros on 😠😠😠

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**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/442 "2007-12-27T19:15:06Z")

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I couldn’t wait til the weekend. This morning I applied 5 drops A314 on each forearm and 6 on the back of my neck. That’s 12 right. Ok, 16 is the number. The first thing I noticed is that it was the first time I have respected myself. It seems to be going OK at work. I demand a lot of respect any way. I will post again tonight. DrZorters

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