# The "MAD TATER" Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 24

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/463 "2008-01-02T05:32:11Z")

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This is interesting. Im sure this is just coincidence, but Day-Glo is getting me hits from outgoing bisexual women. Three of them in two days. Flirty and playful. No sexual allusions, but outgoing enough to mention that theyre bi after 10-30 minutes of conversation. Touchy, but FRIENDLY touchy. This is somewhat unexpected.

One short-haired perky blonde. One medium-length brunette with a sultry disposition. Both mid-30s. Also, one late-20s dark-skinned black girl with a wry sense of humor.

I need to try adding 10mcg P86 and 2.5mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) to see if theres some push that can be developed.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/464 "2008-01-03T07:58:31Z")

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Tater is renaming Day-Glo to Instant Bisexual Attractant, but you need to add the P86 and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) to it. A very few of my confessed lesbian friends went from being playful to being determinedly flirty. This needs more testing on other people, but for lesbians who just might want to switch-hit, this may be what gets them.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/465 "2008-01-03T08:03:24Z")

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Tater is very convinced that its a combination of [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) (or MX252 from my limited experiments) plus exposure to certain foods, particularly greasy ones or possibly foods that normally make you queasy, will make non-Caucasians sick. Adding P83 doesnt seem to help any more than just diluting the fragrance. MX203:Armani at 1:1 seems to get rid of the negative effect too.

Its also possible that its the phero overload from too much TAA. I dont know whats in MX252, but whatever it is, its a shared ingredient.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/466 "2008-01-03T08:06:47Z")

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Tater notation. Okay, since i get so many questions about this, if Tater says IH:IS at 3:1, that means 3 parts IH to 1 part IS.

If you have IH 4x:IG at 2:2, that means 2 sprays of IH 4x to 2 sprays IG.

If you only have IH 2x, you would need to do 4 sprays of IH 2x to 2 sprays IG.

If you only have IH 1x, you would need to do 8 sprays of IH 1x to 2 sprays IG.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/467 "2008-01-03T08:10:04Z")

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Tater notation for dosed products. If Tater says something like IH 4x:EST:P83 at 1:100mcg:10mcg, and you have IH 1x, EST at 50mcg, and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) at 2.5mcg, you need to combine 4 sprays of your IH 1x, 2 sprays of your EST 50mcg (=100mcg) and 4 sprays of your P83 (=10mcg).

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/468 "2008-01-03T08:19:54Z")

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Taters Trailer Trash Tip. If you too cheap to buy titration valves, try this.

1. Peel the label off an empty togo vial.
2. Get a dry-erase marker.
3. Unscrew the cap.
4. Not counting the grooved part at the top, make a line through the middle of the vial (which would mark half-full).
5. Make a line halfway between the grooved part and the middle of the vial, and another halfway between the middle of the vial and the bottom.
6. Make 4 more lines, each halfway between the pairs of lines on the vial, and equally spaced.
7. Finally, make 8 more lines, each splitting the line pairs on the vial.
8. Your vial is now split into 16ths.

Now, if you have a recipe that tells you x:y:z at 4:1:2 (4 parts x, 1 part y, 2 parts z), you can fill your vial with 4 marks worth of x, add 1 more marks worth of y and 2 more marks worth of z. As long as you dont have more than 16 parts in total, you can mix any recipe with ease. Just pour carefully or use a dropper/pipette.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/469 "2008-01-03T08:21:24Z")

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Be careful not to contaminate your pheros when youre using a dropper/pipette. If you use the same dropper for more than one phero, when you dip it into the bottle, youve contaminated it. Some trace of the other phero B is now in bottle A. Not good.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/470 "2008-01-03T08:48:22Z")

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Tater is now offering personal phero-counseling for fellow verified members of the Prometheus Society, and gorgeous female red heads who meet certain other secret qualifications.

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**Author:** ![Shap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Shap](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shap)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/471 "2008-01-03T09:46:06Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> Tater is now offering personal phero-counseling for fellow verified members of the Prometheus Society, and gorgeous female red heads who meet certain other secret qualifications.

haha you and redheads 🙂

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/472 "2008-01-03T18:23:50Z")

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> [@Shap](#):
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> haha you and redheads 🙂

Yeah. Its a wonderful thing, aint it?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/473 "2008-01-03T21:22:10Z")

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Tater, thanks for the good explanations about “tater notation”. That will help in figuring out some of your excellent madness.  
I’m gonna try to work my way through some of the experimones with the ultimate goal of making some mods to the basic alphanol/betanol CTTM type of spray. I do love CTTM but I think it could have some more depth/direction-situational efficiency.  
I already have p79. I’m gonna order soon and will get p74, some TAC, and probably TAH and TAL. Are there any others in the experimone line that you think could be beneficial in controlling or seasoning a CTTM type mix? Any lines of reasoning you have about this subject would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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**Author:** ![Shap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Shap](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shap)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/474 "2008-01-03T22:52:22Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> Yeah. Its a wonderful thing, aint it?

oh yes. therefore the mx203 should work on them right?

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/475 "2008-01-04T04:42:19Z")

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So far [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) has been non-negative, but not an attractant with redheads when diluted as described in my last post.

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**Author:** ![Shap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Shap](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shap)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/476 "2008-01-04T06:25:09Z")

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oh dear, the mx203 is losing its appeal.

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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/477 "2008-01-04T15:47:08Z")

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hey tater. i’ve been using ammo+cttm for a few days now and have not noticed any hits at all. the ammo is borrowed from my friend who referred me here, but the cttm is mine. i went from 2-5 sprays of cttm in the hair and 1-4 sprays of ammo to neck area. any suggestions?

i’m 20, viet, 5’4. do not look like E.T XD

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/478 "2008-01-04T16:08:58Z")

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Gen, is that avatar Digital Blasphemy? It rocks!

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/479 "2008-01-04T17:47:05Z")

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> [@Genesis](#):
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> hey tater. i’ve been using ammo+cttm for a few days now and have not noticed any hits at all. the ammo is borrowed from my friend who referred me here, but the cttm is mine. i went from 2-5 sprays of cttm in the hair and 1-4 sprays of ammo to neck area. any suggestions?
> 
> i’m 20, viet, 5’4. do not look like E.T XD

I would drop the Ammo completely and not use any pheros for 3-4 days, making sure you scrub your application areas. WAY too much Ammo and you certainly have buildup. Did your friend recommend this? Are you sure he likes you?

After 3-4 days, try applying 2 sprays of CTTM, NO AMMO, see what happens.

Regardless, CTTM isnt a hit-driver without the proper attitude and knowing how to work it. You need to say what was going on, what your targets are, etc.

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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/480 "2008-01-05T01:18:13Z")

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thanks for the advice. i’ll post results after a few days of being clean from pheros.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/481 "2008-01-05T18:19:19Z")

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Although the togos are a great sample size for people just getting started, Tater thinks theyre a bit small for figuring out new putatives. Theyre good for new MX, as long as a suggested dosage is given.

With an MX, generally 1-4 sprays seems to give an idea of the effect. Maybe i try a composite or two at the end. With a putative, where you dont know whether 1mcg is needed for a good effect, or 100mcg, its annoying to run out just when things get interesting.

So Tater asks if Androtics can promise full-sizes of new putatives and MX for those who need more than 40 sprays to get things figured out.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/482 "2008-01-06T21:59:39Z")

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Pheros are like those 3D posters where you cant see it until something happens, but once you do, you can find it again easily.

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