# The "MAD TATER" Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 26

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/503 "2008-01-23T14:23:40Z")

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Tater has nothing for redheads. Thats why hes still scanning the forum and hoping someone comes up with something.

Blondes with freckles…try [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) and/or MX103. Whats the age group?

Oh…just noticed youre a newbie, so you wont be able to try the experimental products. I would go for either heavy IH (if shes on the young side) or Ammo + IS if shes 25 or so.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/504 "2008-01-23T14:48:59Z")

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After wearing A314 for a long period of time, there is a noticeable odor/olfactory interaction that seems to take a week or so to subside.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/505 "2008-01-23T20:27:08Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> After wearing A314 for a long period of time, there is a noticeable odor/olfactory interaction that seems to take a week or so to subside.

I’m not sure what you are referring to.. is it a kind of phantom smell? smelling something afterwards that’s not really there?  
Or something else?

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/506 "2008-01-24T16:08:28Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> I’m not sure what you are referring to.. is it a kind of phantom smell? smelling something afterwards that’s not really there?  
> Or something else?

No. Its there. It seems as though it has a residual scent, and effect, that can last for quite a while, even through multiple showers and scrubbings. Possibly the oil-base, possibly some of the ingredients that are causing this.

Might be useful to track when you last used any of the oil-based products since they may have an effect even a week or two later.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/507 "2008-01-24T16:23:11Z")

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Heavy CTTM2 in waiting room. Three older guys (50s and 60s) are very social, follow me around to talk, tell me about their daughters, almost fight over (conversation gets a bit insulting) whether i would be more interested in the Korean guys’ daughter or the Hispanic guys’. Lines are a wonderful thing.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/508 "2008-01-24T17:17:00Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> No. Its there. It seems as though it has a residual scent, and effect, that can last for quite a while, even through multiple showers and scrubbings. Possibly the oil-base, possibly some of the ingredients that are causing this.
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> Might be useful to track when you last used any of the oil-based products since they may have an effect even a week or two later.

I understand what you meant now..  
Though it never happened to me with either mutant a314 or l-s a314…

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**Author:** ![skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skywalker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/509 "2008-01-24T17:36:50Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> After wearing A314 for a long period of time, there is a noticeable odor/olfactory interaction that seems to take a week or so to subside.

i know what u mean tater, like the other day while i was at the gym, i suddenly got a whiff of a314 wen i looked down while sitting..and i havnt worn a314 for about 8-10days

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/510 "2008-01-24T17:37:48Z")

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> [@skywalker](#):
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> i know what u mean tater, like the other day while i was at the gym, i suddenly got a whiff of A314 wen i looked down while sitting..and i havnt worn A314 for about 8-10days

which version do you use?

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**Author:** ![skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skywalker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/514 "2008-01-24T17:43:30Z")

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not to sure phoenix, how do i check? i ordered it oct 2007

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/515 "2008-01-25T02:18:29Z")

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I’ve kinda noticed a similar thing with the A314 scent lingering, but I haven’t really noticed the typical A314 affects during these times.  
However, I’ve been wearing only a drop a day of the stuff, so the buildup is probably very mild.

Have you tried the usual removal methods? I wouldn’t think it would stand up to a bit of hydrogen peroxide.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/516 "2008-01-25T11:36:21Z")

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> [@skywalker](#):
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> im not sure phoenix, how do i check? i ordered it 0ct 2007

so it’s a recent one direct from androtics. Oil-wise probably it’s different from the 2 ones I have.

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**Author:** ![Marc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@Marc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marc)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/517 "2008-01-25T11:58:55Z")

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> [@skywalker](#):
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> im not sure phoenix, how do i check? i ordered it 0ct 2007

There should be a sticker on the bottom of the bottle saying which version (Rev) it is. I think we’re possibly up to Rev 17 or 18 now.

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**Author:** ![nedludd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nedludd/32/1680_2.png) [@nedludd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nedludd)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/518 "2008-01-27T19:22:08Z")

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Tater - could you tell exactly about your heavy BetaNOLs applications to hair? As I understand the last portion of conditioner (with pheros) you don’t rinse at all - and what about drying? Natural or fan assisted?

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/519 "2008-01-28T00:10:10Z")

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Ned,

After finishing my hair care, while my hair is still moist, I put in a little conditioner, not enough to really coat my hair, then rub my composite in my hands and apply it throughout my hair. I wouldn’t suggest using a hot dryer because you are, after all, dealing with a petroleum product. I let my hair dry out naturally while I brush and comb.

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**Author:** ![nedludd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nedludd/32/1680_2.png) [@nedludd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nedludd)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/520 "2008-01-28T17:36:16Z")

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Tater, one more issue is bothering me. There are some articles/researches about conversion androstenol to None…what’s your opinion? I mean if I apply Openess/Honesty to my hair - should I bathe/shower the same day or not?

And…could you tell us the most curious things you heard from strangers while you’ve weared Heavy [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)?

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/521 "2008-02-01T17:29:47Z")

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Tater highly recommends bathing on a regular basis. (phew!)

I havent had a problem with androstenol to androstenone conversion, but then i keep myself squeaky clean and, especially since i wear pheros regularly, shampoo and condition regularly too.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/522 "2008-02-01T17:35:55Z")

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Tater has spent the last week wearing IH 4x:EST:IFM at 4:100mcg:1 composited 50% with Le Male. Exceptional results. Everyone likes me (even more than usual). Women flirt with me if i just hint that im open to talking. Men are protective…not quite as respectful as id like sometimes, but they seem to not like it when im upset (EST?)

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/523 "2008-02-01T17:37:35Z")

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Tater has noticed that IFM carries a respect and touchiness effect for many men. Wearing JUST IFM, i get a friendly A314-like vibe with 75% of the men i encounter.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/524 "2008-02-01T17:38:06Z")

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IH 4x:EST smells great in the hair. Most other pheros dont.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 7:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/525 "2008-02-02T07:16:27Z")

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Tater had major fun tormenting a woman while wearing heavy IH 4x and 2x IFM. I think she was during the right point of her cycle. She stroked everything on her desk. Purred. Tried to get me to ask for her number. Gave me hers. Gave me a hip-to-hip tap for opening the door for her. Wiggled for me. Asked if id remember her name. Sauntered around. Big “bye” when i left. Fluffed her hair constantly. Made pucker/kiss noises with her lips whenever she thought about what i was saying.

This was a “classic” hit. At one point, she was leaning against her couch with her legs unnaturally far apart and her hands stroking her hips. The more i ignored her, the more desperate she seemed.

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