# The "MAD TATER" Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Karmiel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/karmiel/32/2234_2.png) [@Karmiel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Karmiel)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/586 "2008-02-16T20:55:51Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > What results are you seeing with Instant Honesty:EST:Instant Female Magic? > > Try adding TAL to it at a 2:1 ratio. TAC gets hidden by EST, so you have to know what its doing unless you have a complementary phero. Complementary pheros? Do you mean pheros that are complete opposites in terms of affects would sort of get hidden or make eachother less effective? What would be an example of 2 complementary pheros? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/587 "2008-02-16T23:53:06Z")
Many seem to think that IG makes you seem older and avoid it, especially the younger guys. Thats an incorrect assumption. Its more like Instant Social Class Booster. Its predominately androsterone. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/588 "2008-02-17T14:51:01Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Many seem to think that Instant Gentleman makes you seem older and avoid it, especially the younger guys. Thats an incorrect assumption. Its more like Instant Social Class Booster. Its predominately androsterone. I totally agree Tater, for me at my age it almost acts like Grecian Formula for the phero sig. It seems to blur age. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/589 "2008-02-17T16:27:30Z")
I competely agree. I have not tried A314 or [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) yet, but just recently started testing SteveO’s sex mix with Androsterone added, and am really liking the added respect/comfort factor it lends to the mix. And, it still gets me attention, IOI’s and KINO from women half my age! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/590 "2008-02-18T06:19:29Z")
Tater has noticed that many of his pheros become better with age, just by leaving them in the bottle. Ive seen this with MX102/MX103, A314, IH, CTTM, IFM, everything except EST. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/591 "2008-02-18T06:23:04Z")
Another poster (in the A314 forum) noted that those in his social group are benefiting from his wearing A314 by picking off the lesser women who are eager just to be part of the group. Tater has noticed for a while that the social pheros make it easier for everyone. The wearer gets the heaviest benefit, but ive had someone in my group get unexpected hits that normally would not have happened. Ive even had it said that someone is more fun when im around. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/592 "2008-02-18T06:35:21Z")
Tater doesnt just suggest your body thinks of the pheros as foreign (i.e. someone in your face/inner circle, who exhibits these pheros), he bases his whole phero theory around it. You need more water because your body suddenly needs to produce competitive pheros. If youre wearing sexual/respect pheros, you lose weight because your body wants to compete. This is why some pheros should ALWAYS be worn on the nape of the neck or the hair. The self-effect is adverse to your observation. You are a walking phero-bomb. Spraying pheros on yourself doesnt change your personal signature. Some pheros your body will RESPOND in kind to, like androstenone and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). Some pheros your body will REACT to, like EST and alpha-androstenol. Some pheros your body will COMPLEMENT, like androsterone. Some pheros your body will RESPOND counter to, like TAL/TAH. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/593 "2008-02-18T06:38:38Z")
Where should you wear your pheros? For maximum effect on others, apply to hair with a bit of conditioner. For maximum self-effect, to the sternum/under chin. Ears and the back of your knees, plus ankles are good for low-intensity, wide area diffusion, especially if youre bald. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/594 "2008-02-18T06:39:54Z")
Tater wants to mention that the alcohol-based products do tend to dry out your hair, so the conditioner really helps with that. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/595 "2008-02-18T06:45:49Z")
Tater will further speculate that Winifred Cutler sells Athena 10x for “training” purposes. Whatever the phero is, its a combination of self-effect and training of your body to make the appropriate complimentary/competitive pheros. Why do you need to wear her stuff for a month or two before seeing noticeable results? Because, especially if you aren’t properly hydrated (and suddenly deciding to drink water instead of soda, coffee, tea or worse doesn’t help), it takes a while for your body to manage the change. Thats also why the Athena 10x effect lasts for as much as 6 months after you use it. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/596 "2008-02-18T06:48:49Z")
That means you can train your own body with very light dosages of certain pheros. Light amounts of EST over a long period of time tells your body that theres a baby or pregnant woman in need of protecting, and makes you feel good/capable so that you can protect as necessary. Realm for Men only needs a tiny amount of EST, just like youd pick up from a baby who is “around”. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/597 "2008-02-18T07:04:37Z")
Big deal…wait for it…wait for it… Androsterone is the chemical of protection, being secure. Tater suspects that when youre protecting a child or a mother, a protective alpha-male leaves behind an androsterone-related marker that says this-one-is-important-to-someone-who-can-hurt-you. Its not direct respect, but respect demanded of someone important. This is like when you hug a family member and notice everyone treating them well, almost as if they know theyll need to deal with you. I suspect it works better on women, in the right dosages, than most of us think. The self-effect is im-calm-no-need-to-fear. So yes, status or, more appropriately, association with status is very accurate for this one. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/598 "2008-02-18T07:07:17Z")
Thats different from androstenone which signals im-ticked-at-you-and-now-im-gonna-smash-your-face-if-you-dont-act-right. Androstenone scares babies because they sense violence coming and need mommy right-the-heck-NOW. Just like your dog barks too when you get ticked at somebody because theres somebody to attack…thats androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/599 "2008-02-18T07:14:58Z")
And while were at it, alpha-androstenol (AA) is an element in the sense of nervous fear, possibly beta-androstenol (BA) too but less so. AA may be responsible for why obese people are seldom perceived as threatening. Their bodies may emit AA -because- they are beyond self-defense, as a protection mechanism. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/600 "2008-02-18T07:18:33Z")
The effect of BA, meanwhile, may be the emotional non-threatening signal. Ever wear a ton of this stuff and notice that you can get a wave of unsettledness during a transition, not fear but momentary emotional discomfort and vulnerability? Immediately after that, people seem to get charged up to be very open with you. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/601 "2008-02-18T07:23:17Z")
I think the smell of fear (all-out terror) also includes TAF and several other pheros that may not be sold by Androtics. That defocusing and energy you get from TAF is what you feel when something is about to leap at you, but you dont know where it will come from. Your body is primed for rapid movement, your senses are exaggerated and youre focused on everything at one time. You can hear everything at once, see a speckle move in a shadow. Similarly, when you come down from the event, you can feel very tired, as if you were tensed for a very long time. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/602 "2008-02-18T07:28:50Z")
This suggests that TAF really does have a “memory reset” to it, that shouldnt be used too often or it will burn you/the target out. This may be related to why when you get spooked, you remember all kinds of crap vividly as your mind records it, and your brain even fills in all the details for you. I saw a spot move and my brain filled in the body of the whole leopard coming at me. So TAF should be used to make a heavy initial impression, but may make people tired around you if you wear something with it all the time. Also, the emergency response/memory effect will die down. Why does it intensify some pheros? It doesnt. But those who are affected will have a harsh memory of everything that happened. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/603 "2008-02-18T07:32:12Z")
I expect serious love for sharing some of my most closely held phero-theories. Tater for president! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/604 "2008-02-18T07:42:50Z")
And Taters gonna whine about not getting any of the cool MX or P to test. Its not like i dont report. True, Jasmin did load me up with a bunch of useful stuff, but Taters a greedy little…uh, maybe next you have some of that MX252 hanging around, you can put it in a Ziplock bag so i can try more than one application. I just dont feel the love. Why is that, SteveO? Why, Jasmin? Why? Why? Why?😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/605 "2008-02-18T10:04:31Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > _ **This suggests that TAF really does have a “memory reset” to it, that shouldnt be used too often or it will burn you/the target out.** _ This may be related to why when you get spooked, you remember all kinds of crap vividly as your mind records it, and your brain even fills in all the details for you. I saw a spot move and my brain filled in the body of the whole leopard coming at me. > > _ **So TAF should be used to make a heavy initial impression, but may make people tired around you if you wear something with it all the time.** _ Also, the emergency response/memory effect will die down. > > Why does it intensify some pheros? It doesnt. But those who are affected will have a harsh memory of everything that happened. Doesn’t seem to work well, for me, if I don’t wear it in a _low_ dose with _something else. And there is the tired burnout, for sure. MHarris, remember him? 🙄 said the same thing about TAF, and I’m sure others of the amplifier, intensifier, magnif’nfier putatives have the same/similar effect. Screws with your neurotransmitters, dopamine, serotonin and the rest of 'em. You’re right 🙂 about hydration…take your vits, especially B-Complex. These are really tough on the system. So, Tater what do you think of the putatives that are already composited into our various MX’s that we wear all the time_? Like my beloved MX135? Some of us have been wearing these long term. What’s the price to pay? I wonder…I’ve worn that pesky TAF enough to be able to pick it right out of that MX! Gotta be careful not to wear too much, even though I love it or the TAF it contains can be troublesome for me. There, my deep thoughts, now if I can just get some into my own journal. 😛 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330.md?page=29) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330.md?page=31)