# The "MAD TATER" Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/141 "2007-10-19T10:19:50Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > 1. The story on A314. Even before completing his testing, Tater now has enough evidence to say that A314 definitely does well in generating respect hits reliably for a long, long time. It increases the perceived value of the wearer enough that i was constantly getting cheerful respect and apologies for the slightest thing that may have been wrong. Im pretty sure i saw apologies for things that were subconsciously wrong, possibly even before they happened. Like to CokeZero commercial, where they vow to get you out of the convenience store 2 minutes before you even walk in? The tabloid headline: “Magic oil turns casual populace into a swell of future forseeing mind readers! Gives Tater free pedicure, diamond tennis bracelet, and bag of fries!” ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/142 "2007-10-19T10:20:14Z")
> [@helius9](#): > > Probably Jasmin is working towards re-stocking all the pheros we want 😛 and once shes done with that, she should be here to get feedback from us. > > helius You betcha, baby! ---
**Author:** ![normano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/df788c/32.png) [@normano](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/normano)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/143 "2007-10-19T12:08:33Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > B: Faster, more immediate diffusion = Short encounter with intense, highly respectable male = _lasting_ impression = omfgI’msosoppingwetIhopeIcangetoutofherealive = Yeah, I _totally_ get what you’re saying here. Jasmin, thats hilarious. I’m fine tuning my testing process now so hopefully I’ll get past that total newbie stage so I can order some of those wonderful MX’s. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/144 "2007-10-19T15:40:49Z")
Great insights. Makes me really look forward to A314. Have you tried mixing it with P74 or [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)? I’m interested if either of those mesh well with A314. ---
**Author:** ![gen\_tso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gen\_tso](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gen_tso)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/145 "2007-10-19T18:10:04Z")
I have found your experiments and anecdotes _most_ informative. I think it is exactly the kind of info I need to go from beginner to the _next level._ I am particularly intrigued by your use of MX102 and MX103 and I think that shall be my next product to test, as I have an affinity for pale looking blonde baristas. I am also interested in putatives, however I know nothing about them nor their difference or similarities to pheromones. _“50. Should I buy [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) or harvest it from a male cat?”_ Oh, and incedently, I have been trying this and have found that this method both works and is tremendously cost effective, I shall be going to the pound to acquire more test subjects this evening. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/146 "2007-10-20T03:51:10Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Female, dare I say, \*alpha _female_ perspective: > > A: Alcohol base = Faster, more immediate diffusion = More intense hits, fast and early on = I totally get what you’re saying here. > > B: Faster, more immediate diffusion = Short encounter with intense, highly respectable male = _lasting_ impression = omfgI’msosoppingwetIhopeIcangetoutofherealive = Yeah, I _totally_ get what you’re saying here. > > \*Yeah, that’s right, I’m an alpha female. You know how many alpha males I have to whip into line!!!? 😃 So Jasmin, all of that makes perfect sense. Is the note on MX102 that goes away during the first 1-2 hours the same thing thats missing in MX103? What would a spray version of the latest A314 look like. I thought MX102-MX105 were very early variations. And what do you make of the Japanese hit? That just shouldnt be happening. And MX102/MX103 seem much more sexual than A314. You think thats just a matter of diffusion, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/147 "2007-10-20T05:09:06Z")
> [@](#): > > So Jasmin, all of that makes perfect sense. Is the note on MX102 that goes away during the first 1-2 hours the same thing thats missing in MX103? I don’t know, and even if I did, I don’t think I could publicly tell you. 🙂 > [@](#): > > What would a spray version of the latest A314 look like. I thought MX102-MX105 were very early variations. And what do you make of the Japanese hit? That just shouldnt be happening. To each her own! Maybe that alpha fling is her thang. > [@](#): > > And MX102/MX103 seem much more sexual than A314. Dude, you’ve only had A314 less than a week. Just wait til you experience the long term effects. 😃 You have a good grasp on the long term dynamics of MX102/3! > [@](#): > > You think thats just a matter of diffusion, eh? There are so many variables that go into phero testing that it makes my head spin. Diffusion, mood, audience & ambient social dynamic, ability of wearer to “Own it”… ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 5:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/148 "2007-10-20T05:10:27Z")
> [@normano](#): > > Jasmin, thats hilarious. > > I’m fine tuning my testing process now so hopefully I’ll get past that total newbie stage so I can order some of those wonderful MX’s. Kick ass, Normano! So we’ll be seeing the Mad Normano Journal in what, a week or so??? 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skywalker)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/149 "2007-10-20T07:22:58Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > 1. Tater thought #2. Based on experiments with an unnamed product, Tater suspects that very low amounts of copulins in a male, oil-based phero product, alongside moderate amounts of androstenone and a particular Androtics phero can convince a woman that (a) shes already excited and (b) give her symptoms that confirm shes excited. Rep points for the first person to guess which phero Tater mixed in, biscuits if you can guess the unnamed product. mr tater, after that description, u cant hold back!! whats the secret!!! :o ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/150 "2007-10-22T05:11:24Z")
Well, Tater just got a follow-up hit from a beautiful Japanese woman with drippy jet black hair and adorable well-toned duck legs. MX102 last night. 1x IFM and 1x IS tonight. I think its the MX102 that got her attention though. Tonight was just momentum. I have never known an over-25 Japanese woman to make a pass at anyone, especially not a non-Japanese/non-Caucasian man. Wish it werent against my morals or i would tap that. She looks like an anime-figure in real life. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/151 "2007-10-22T05:17:14Z")
> [@gen\_tso](#): > > I have found your experiments and anecdotes _most_ informative. I think it is exactly the kind of info I need to go from beginner to the _next level._ I am particularly intrigued by your use of MX102 and MX103 and I think that shall be my next product to test, as I have an affinity for pale looking blonde baristas. I am also interested in putatives, however I know nothing about them nor their difference or similarities to pheromones. Its MX203, not MX103 that has the blonde barista effect. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/152 "2007-10-22T06:00:05Z")
Tater has come up with a list of world domination starter mixes: _A314 - oil-based, which complicates things a little Ammo Dirty - oil-based plus copulins. a little dangerous but if you arent a wage slave, go for it! [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) (heavy) MX101/PheromoneProof MX102 \*MX103_ MX149 MX156 - not sure whats in it, but it sure gets compliments and attention MX203 - seems best for Caucasian only environments The ones with asterisks are recommended by Tater. Remember that the idea is to create a mix that highly complements your personal signature under all circumstances, not just when going clubbing. Well work on accent mixes for when you need a bit of extra oomph. So heres what Tater wants 1. Your age, or range if youre feeling sensitive 2. Which base you plan to go with 3. The effective range for your base (no effect - OD) 4. Types of effects you feel your signature most needs 5. The pheros at your disposal 6. Test environments you have access to And your first assignment is to find at least two canaries (people who respond noticeably to your pheros), and put together a phero-cleaning kit. Tater has noticed that the combination of an alpha-hydroxy product and baking soda paste does a really good job of getting rid of pheros though it also leaves your skin feeling a bit raw if you use it too often. Please, NEVER apply anything containing androstenone or androsterone to your hair. Even washing your hair doesnt get rid of these easily, and im beginning to suspect that P74 has some staying power too. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/153 "2007-10-22T06:10:52Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > 1. Your age, or range if youre feeling sensitive > 2. Which base you plan to go with > 3. The effective range for your base (no effect - OD) > 4. Types of effects you feel your signature most needs > 5. The pheros at your disposal > 6. Test environments you have access to 1. mid-30s 2. Tater plans to use MX102 but will swap to Dirty if it gets here in time. 3. 1.5 sprays (.20ml) is my sweet spot. .5 sprays-1spray gets me few results. Anything more than 3 sprays is an OD. 4. heavy bonding from women. i already get reasonable respect, attraction and warm friendliness, but would like to see more bonding from women. More attraction without too much chattiness is also a good thing. 5. In my signature 6. Work, coffee shops, grocery stores, clubs (infrequently), gym, formal parties, airplanes, public transit, malls, restaurants, speed dating events ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/154 "2007-10-22T06:12:58Z")
BTW, Tater DOES have a day job but wants to use Dirty as a base because i believe theres great potential there. The only problem may be how to composite consistently when you have some oil-based items and some alcohol-based items. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/155 "2007-10-22T06:36:54Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > So heres what Tater wants > > 1. Your age, or range if youre feeling sensitive > 2. Which base you plan to go with > 3. The effective range for your base (no effect - OD) > 4. Types of effects you feel your signature most needs > 5. The pheros at your disposal > 6. Test environments you have access to Okay, I’ll need to fill in some gaps in my arsenal, but in the meantime, I’ll answer the above as best I can. 1. 34 2. I’ve been using NPA, or mainly -none as my base, but I like the idea of using MX102. Tentatively, I’ll say that for now. 3. I get consistent self-effects from 3 sprays out of a to-go. Since I was a bad boy and never tested it by itself, I’m not exactly sure of it’s effects on others yet. 4. Well, my primary target zone has almost _required_ a heavy -none signature, but the dynamics there have taken a sudden change (for the better, I might add). What I want to do is maintain a sexual vibe, but more subdued. Confident, self-assured, and unapologetic are three words that come to mind to describe what I want. 5. A314, NPA, Ammo, Instant Shine, IFM. As of now, I am out of TUTH, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and _GASP!_ MX102. 6. Not strip clubs. Hehe. At least not my usual haunt. I’ll be making the Starbuck’s rounds, my job, and probably the mall. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/156 "2007-10-22T06:55:09Z")
Hey D4. Thanks for responding. BTW thats not the list of pheros will use, just a list of base pheros that seem worth dealing with. Im not opposed to using NPA as a base. I just dont know anything about it. Can you do an incremental test of when you get the best responses from others and yourself? MX102 is one of my favorites too, but we need to find out what happens with it just by itself. Dont jeopardize your already sweet situation though. Just try it when you can. Im still coming up with the list of additive pheros well try for the first round and intend to check with Jasmin on doing a test kit if we have a large number of people signed up. Unless you have an immediate need for MX102 you might want to hang on for a few so you can save the shipping cost. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/157 "2007-10-22T07:06:54Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Hey D4. Thanks for responding. BTW thats not the list of pheros will use, just a list of base pheros that seem worth dealing with. Im not opposed to using NPA as a base. I just dont know anything about it. Basically, it’s a -none powerhouse in a bottle. NPA stands for New Pheromone Additive, and is designed for precisely what you do-- compositing with cologne. If you have the extra $$ available, I’d highly recommend getting a bottle of it. It’ll last forever. > [@](#): > > Can you do an incremental test of when you get the best responses from others and yourself? MX102 is one of my favorites too, but we need to find out what happens with it just by itself. Dont jeopardize your already sweet situation though. Just try it when you can. Certainly! I really should have done this from the beginning. Now I’ve got my buddies talking OTC hookups, and I’m not exactly sure what caused that in terms of pheroes. I was sloppy, which is why I seriously need to narrow my signature down to what I said above. It could very well have been my non-phero assets. I am just so much more comfortable and at ease with myself, and it shows. I really should reserve this for the Testopalooza thread, but tonight I was the fucking MACK. I had a wingman, who also is gifted with a near flawless bullshit detector, and when I was in the VIP with either Raven or Paradise, the other was at the table talking to him. He said both of them were just going on and on about how they like me and that the only reason why the both of them decided to come in tonight was because they knew I planned on being there. They left when I left. GAH! _zips it_ I babble too much. 😃 Anyway, yeah, I’m going to try going one phero at a time for my other target areas I mentioned above. > [@](#): > > Im still coming up with the list of additive pheros well try for the first round and intend to check with Jasmin on doing a test kit if we have a large number of people signed up. Unless you have an immediate need for MX102 you might want to hang on for a few so you can save the shipping cost. That sounds like the best strategy. I’d rather get everything under one shipping payout. Besides, I’m in no immediate hurry. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/158 "2007-10-25T03:32:18Z")
1. [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) used directly out of the spray atomizer isnt even one-tenth as potent as when you composite it. Also compositing tones down the scent tremendously. ---
**Author:** ![Eslite119](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eslite119/32/176_2.png) [@Eslite119](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eslite119)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/159 "2007-10-25T19:38:46Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > 1. MX203 used directly out of the spray atomizer isnt even one-tenth as potent as when you composite it. Also compositing tones down the scent tremendously. Can you elaborate? 😕 I just got my hands on the rare [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) in togo bottle. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/160 "2007-10-25T20:00:01Z")
> [@Eslite119](#): > > Can you elaborate? 😕 I just got my hands on the rare MX203 in togo bottle. I’d like to buy an E, please? 🙄 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330.md?page=7) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330.md?page=9)