# The "MAD TATER" Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/648 "2008-04-01T07:31:09Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> I just got a To-Go each of P83 and P86. I haven’t been able to try the P86 yet, but my one test so far with the P83 was not very successful. I used one spray @ 12.5mcg along with IS 2X strength and MX135 (three sprays each) and became extremely irritated several hours later when I wasn’t receiving the attention from my TG I felt I _should_ have been getting (and had been on previous days). I felt as if my whole day was virtually ruined because of it, but later on I was thinking “why was that such a big deal??”
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> Not sure if I’m going to try it out again soon or not…

Sounds like confirmation. It does seem to have a stronger, possibly more negative effect on women compared to men, Ive also noticed.

Meanwhile, Tater has also noticed that P86 is a more specific MSG-style phero, like MEO-EST. The sensuality triggers on something else being around. Top candidates are androstenone, EST, TAL and TAH.

I need higher concentrations so im hoping someone else can pick up where i left off on this one.

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