# The "MAD TATER" Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 839
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/839 "2008-09-02T10:26:56Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Nice guys finish last, but maybe you can be a nice guy and keep it a secret. > [@MadisonTate](#): > > Pheros have helped Tater keep emotions in play. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > It kills me to have to have to hide my feelings and not show a girl how I feel when I’m with someone that I really like too, but sure as hell if you let on how much you care and lay yourself wide open, she will lose interest. I know you guys (Tater especially I am thinking) love wearing large amounts of Instant Honesty/BetaNol. **Have you guys found, when wearing it, that you have had problems controlling what you say (or even your body language may look too ‘honest’) so that you are not hiding your strong feelings well enough?** **Surely you have had weak moments where you thought ‘heck I feel such a strong connection I want to be honest about my feelings for this person’ and end up laying yourselves wide too open?** Now please be honest here (pardon the pun 🙄 ) - I don’t have great self control and that has been a real problem for me when wearing something like IH (and some others too I believe may have had such an issue)… > [@Androstenone overdoses are no fun](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-overdoses-are-no-fun/527/19): > > Sigma’s comment about the -none OD where he says he knew he was being affected by the OD, but was unable to “control” it, is what has me concerned about the effects of [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) like IH. Unless there is enough difference between how -none affects you, and how -nols (-Bnol in this case) affects you, I still have this fear that using IH in a way that you get as much of a dose as your “target” may cause the unintended result that you blab too much “truth” or reveal too much in a situation… Rbt (August 15, 2006): "Sigma’s comment about the -none [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) where he says he _knew_ he was being affected by the [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics), but was unable to “control” it, is what has me concerned about the effects of [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) like [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). Unless there is enough difference between how -none affects you, and how -nols (-Beta Androstenol in this case) affects you, \*\*I still have this fear that using **Instant Honesty ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/))** in a way that you get as much of a dose as your “target” may cause the unintended result that you blab too much “truth” or reveal too much in a situation where you are wearing the product with the intent of having an advantage over the target. \*\* (There are times I’m sure where we are wearing pheromone products with the intent to influence someone else, not ourselves.) Opinions/observations?" [Pheromones and the friend zone: is attraction harder once you're already friends?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-theory-friend-zone-failure/7392) ([Pheromones and the friend zone: is attraction harder once you're already friends?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-theory-friend-zone-failure/7392)) PheroQuirk (December 13, 2007): “Quote: Originally Posted by **Genesis** _i’ve read Tater said that “once you trash your signature on a target, it’s over, you’re done”_ the major way you can screw up is by wearing a too sexual/aggressive mix in the wrong context when she isn’t ready for it. so a none/Edge overdose ([Pharmacodynamics - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics)) can ruin peoples’ perception of you semi-permanently almost independently of how you behave (and the self-effects are likely to get you deeper into trouble). I haven’t had any experience of wearing a friendly mix (eg [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) and screwing things up - unless I didn’t steer it right **(eg talking too much or revealing things I shouldn’t due to combined effects of betanol+alcohol)..**.” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330)._