# The "MAD TATER" Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [August 31, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330 "2007-08-31T06:28:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/842 "2008-09-02T13:35:12Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> One thing Tater has learned is that most male/female relationships cant handle perfect intimacy and openness.

Tater is right here - I think this is almost a given. There are some things I do not want to know or see about female upkeep - just do them - and I sure would never comment too psoitively about another woman’s physique to my wife …

> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> ALWAYS leave room for mystery,

Women love a little mystery … and most of all they want _you_ to be the _man_ in the relationship.

Now if they want to be the man - you have trouble in more ways than one.

> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> and never ever ever let on exactly how much you love a woman.

I think at a certain point - in a LTR - you need to so that she knows you are commited. I think that is part of what has kept me married 20+ years through a lot of stuff - her knowing my love and dedication.

I think what I hear from Tater, Mark, M&M after this is that they did not find the mature person who would _respect_ and _appreciate_ that level of love and commitment and return it and instead used it and moved on. And for that I am truly sorry as I had that happen to me once or twice before I found the Mrs..

For me the two big terms in all this is love and respect … both have to exist mutually for a relationship to thrive.

> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> Im madly in love with a certain redhead i adore,

Is this the same one or a different one - just out of curiousity?

> [@Tater needs help with gorgeous redhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tater-needs-help-with-gorgeous-redhead/6012):
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> Okay, im stuck with very little of my favorite pheros and i need to slaughter this almost perfect babe. Pale-skinned, freckle-dusted Belgian, Bryn Mawr and Oxford grad, molecular biology and petrochemical engineering, 31, violet eyes, exceptionally feminine with a French woman’s physique and mannerisms. She has a deep, husky laugh that seems to big and way too sexy for her body. She wears lavender and peach exclusively, from head to toe, except for these funky black librarian glasses that do obs…

> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> Nice guys finish last, but maybe you can be a nice guy and keep it a secret.

It is a fine line between being nice and seeming to be a doormat.

> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> All you phero-newbies, its about excitement, mystery and being unpredictable.
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> Dont be average.

Women love a little excitement and mystery and I think unpredictable up to a certain point or in certain aspects.

I don’t know about the prima-donna thing. I am much more comfortable getting things done under the radar as much as I can. Just finished a major project like that today. Had to get two bosses to agree to something it would have been much easier for them professionally to say no. This will be a major benefit for a lot of people and most people affected will never know it was me …

I have found that some A314 & IH or [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and being friendly/polite but insistant works well …

> [@mark-in-dallas](#):
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> girls need to see that other women find you attractive too.
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> Social proofing works

Yes it does … even if you are married … just do not take it too far in the married realm would be my suggestion …

> [@M\_M](#):
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> Lots and lots of guys will be cocky and funny and play the mystery card until the woman becomes his. Then he changes into the “Yes dear” guy, things fall apart, and he can never figure out WHY.
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> With that said, I’d like to add … people get into relationships, become comfortable, and unknowingly, stop trying to attract one another. Not good!

I think that at a certain point too many people start taking the other person and the relationship for granted. They stop trying to make the relationship work and keep it moving forward. Not to much survives in dead, stagnant waters.

> [@mark-in-dallas](#):
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> And when people stop trying to attract one another, they start wandering looking for somebody else to attract and feel attracted to!
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> It’s human nature to want to feel attracted to somebody and for that person to feel attracted to you. If you have it and let it slip away, the relationship either becomes mundane or dies out.

I think this is a major sympton of what I was just describing.

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