# The n00b journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [March 22, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312 "2009-03-22T19:55:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/42 "2009-05-08T18:01:04Z")

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> [@Young\_Beast](#):
>
> THat’s bullshit man stop thinking that way.
> 
> First of all, she is NEGGING you bro! To neg means to sort of tease/make fun of in a playful or sometimes slightly sexual way. Listen to me when I say that there _is_ attraction, you have to build on it. She sees you as a good, funny guy. Add in some cool and you’re golden.
> 
> Contrary to very popular belief, you don’t have to be Brad Pitt to get the hottest chick in the room.
> 
> Another trick to use for your confidence is to never ever do what you just did. Never say, “Oh I know she isn’t attracted to me.” Instead, think “She is definitely attracted to me.” Play the game bro, and it will reward you
> 
> BTW Check out my new journal 😛

Thanks that really helped out 🙂

Day 25 - 5/8/09

Applied: 1 Spray of AMMO to wrists  
2 Sprays of CTTM2 to wrists  
4 Sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to wrists and neck

Location: High School

Results: I had a pretty amazing day. In my language arts class, we were square dancing. I was looking around the room for a partner, since there were none, I thought I was going to sit out and watch. But all of the sudden my teacher (who is a fox btw, late 20’s) volunteers to be my partner. I was a little bit embarrassed, yet it was kind of a turn on. So we were doing several moves, and I could tell she was smelling the cologne. Not to menchen, she had really soft skin from touching hands, arms, or other body parts. She didn’t come out and say that “you smell good”, but definitely she was giving me long looks, talking, and laughing the whole time. Shame that she is married… oh well 🙄.

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/43 "2009-05-08T18:14:09Z")

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> [@LTDshred](#):
>
> Thanks that really helped out 🙂
> 
> Day 25 - 5/8/09
> 
> Applied: 1 Spray of AMMO to wrists  
> 2 Sprays of CTTM2 to wrists  
> 4 Sprays of Instant Shine to wrists and neck
> 
> Location: High School
> 
> Results: I had a pretty amazing day. In my language arts class, we were square dancing. I was looking around the room for a partner, since there were none, I thought I was going to sit out and watch. But all of the sudden my teacher (who is a fox btw, late 20’s) volunteers to be my partner. I was a little bit embarrassed, yet it was kind of a turn on. So we were doing several moves, and I could tell she was smelling the cologne. Not to menchen, she had really soft skin from touching hands, arms, or other body parts. She didn’t come out and say that “you smell good”, but definitely she was giving me long looks, talking, and laughing the whole time. Shame that she is married… oh well 🙄.

So the ‘nerd’ pulls the foxy teacher, there’s a major lesson in life right there for you.

I guarantee that every guy in the room was jealous and every girl noticed the looks and the laughing. Man, you’ve just gone up the social scale a peg or two just with that one dance.

A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step, you’ve taken the first step over the past couple of weeks, the dance was the second, the next step will be easier… Give it a few months and you will be fighting the women off.

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/44 "2009-05-08T18:21:06Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
>
> So the ‘nerd’ pulls the foxy teacher, there’s a major lesson in life right there for you.
> 
> I guarantee that every guy in the room was jealous and every girl noticed the looks and the laughing. Man, you’ve just gone up the social scale a peg or two just with that one dance.
> 
> A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step, you’ve taken the first step over the past couple of weeks, the dance was the second, the next step will be easier… Give it a few months and you will be fighting the women off.

Well when I ment body parts, I didn’t mean like the sexual playthings 😛. But still, a major part of our bodies were touching and hey, she had a great time. And yeah, everybody was laughing and having a good time in the classroom. If I only could re-live that moment over and over haha 😃.

Yeah, I’m noticing that I’m starting not to care anymore about prom or other things and just have fun 🙂. I think tonight I want to test this at the mall, but I’m not sure since I’m probably going to go alone. Heck a part of me says go for it (which is the stronger opinion). But anywayz, I’m so excited that I’m on a progressive path finally to achieving the “relationship” goal.

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/45 "2009-05-08T18:24:08Z")

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Go to the mall with zero expectations, don’t aim for or expect anything to happen and just observe people, then come home and analyse it, I bet you’ll shock yourself!

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/46 "2009-05-08T18:29:18Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
>
> Go to the mall with zero expectations, don’t aim for or expect anything to happen and just observe people, then come home and analyse it, I bet you’ll shock yourself!

I bet I will be. I’ll post my results later; this would give me an opportunity to see if the pheros are working as they should or if I need to make an adjustment.

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/47 "2009-05-09T01:47:47Z")

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Well here’s the report diamond.

Day 25 Part two - 3/8/09

Re-Applied @ 6:00: 5 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)  
2 sprays of CTTM2  
2 Sprays of AMMO

Location: Mall

Results: As soon as I walked in the mall, several cute girls gave me eye contact as soon as I entered. I’m like cool, but it could be just a coincidence. So I’m wandering around the mall for a while, and I see this girl who was sitting alone, apparently eating a taco. I wait until she was done eating, then I did my approach. I thought it would be nice to go with the cologne opinion opener. I asked her to see what she thought of this cologne that was on my wrist. She said no thank you, so I rambled on about cologne. She seemed apathetic, so I tried my best to close out the conversation and leave.

Then there was girl number two. Her face was ok, but her body was beautiful; she had the best d-cup breasts I have ever seen. So I try to find the strength to go approach. She was standing alone waiting for a movie. I introduced myself, she gave me her name. I tried to make small talk with her, but the whole time she seemed unattentive. She was in the same grade as I was, and she went to our rival school. Parts of the conversation were silent for about 10-15 seconds, so I tried to find a topic that she would talk about. I tried bringing up vanilla vs. chocolate, shopping, the movie, and then swine flu (desperate, yeah I know). I asked for her number to text, and then she gave the classic “i have a boyfriend.” I kind of have a feeling that she might have been lying, but it could be true. So I close out the conversation and walk out of the mall striking out twice.

I honestly don’t know what I have done wrong. I couldn’t keep the conversations going, none of them seemed interested in my smell. People on this forum keep posting about how they have sex from 1-6AM when I’m posting that seems nothing but failures. I need help, somebody analyze this?

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/48 "2009-05-09T08:59:14Z")

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What you have to remember is that most of us don’t post the negatives, just the positives. Take djandarial for example, from his journal, you would think that every woman who comes into his phero cloud throws him down and goes to town on him, now I don’t know the guy and I’m pretty sure that if he reads this, he’ll drop his own thoughts in here but I’ll pretty much guarantee that he crashes and burns pretty often, just like the rest of us. Even Mark in Dallas and Steve have their share of misses

Now, bear in mind that I’m a supremely confident guy who understands the female psyche better than most guys. If I were to go to a club and play the game, I would probably get one blatant, in your face ‘I want you now’ hit and 2 or 3 more minor ’ I’m interested, but not ready’ hits in a night. I would probably chat to at leat 10 or 20 girls in the course of the evening so my ratio of hits to misses is in the region of 1:8, when I was a young, nerdy, spotty metalhead and thought that Iron Maiden were the best thing on the planet, my ratio was more like 1:30.

The point is, it’s a numbers game, as you get older and more confident in yourself, the ratios improve and, more importantly, you will get better at reading the signals. You’ve had hits already, the ‘nerd boyfriend’ comment and the fox teacher were hits, no question.

The more girls you talk to, the more hits you will get, your confidence will improve ( which the girls will notice), more girls will then be receptive to your approach and the circle will continue to go round until you get the hits that you see posted about on here, once that happens, all you will have to worry about is lack of sleep! Practice is all it takes.

As to the girls in the mall, you got eye contact from some cute ones but decided to concentrate on the one sitting alone, eating and then the girl in the queue. Had either of these girls given you eye contact or indicated interest?

Personally, I would have started with the ones who had already indicated interest, if I had got no IOIs within 30 seconds, I would have moved on. Unfortunately, the way you acted indicated desperation, guaranteed to kill any chances. Don’t worry about it, learn the lesson and get back out there. If nothing else, you will learn a lot in preparation for a whole new adventure in the autumn.😉

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/49 "2009-05-09T13:20:31Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
>
> The more girls you talk to, the more hits you will get, your confidence will improve ( which the girls will notice), more girls will then be receptive to your approach and the circle will continue to go round until you get the hits that you see posted about on here, once that happens, all you will have to worry about is lack of sleep! Practice is all it takes.

You’re right about the practice part, but I have read about the confidence part. Somebody posted a good topic, saying that confidence does not come from just approaches, but from good approaches and experiences. So the confidence is a hit or miss, but I can definitely practice on my approaches. In fact, this little experience has inspired me to go about every weekend.

> [@](#):
>
> As to the girls in the mall, you got eye contact from some cute ones but decided to concentrate on the one sitting alone, eating and then the girl in the queue. Had either of these girls given you eye contact or indicated interest?

No, I’m afraid not. I didn’t know why I approach the ones who were giving me eye contact. I think it was the two males that were with the group; it kind of intimidated me a little bit. I was texting my friend, and she said the malls were a great place to look for single women, and the way to find them are if they are in groups of two (or possibly more). So I thought that was very helpful from a girl’s perspective, never knew that 🙂

> [@](#):
>
> Personally, I would have started with the ones who had already indicated interest, if I had got no IOIs within 30 seconds, I would have moved on. Unfortunately, the way you acted indicated desperation, guaranteed to kill any chances. Don’t worry about it, learn the lesson and get back out there. If nothing else, you will learn a lot in preparation for a whole new adventure in the autumn.😉

Like I said, I’m rearing to go 🙂. This is way different than the high school game, its a glimpse of what I have to do in real life. There is no social elite that is preventing me from anything, but the hard part is I have to approach strangers (which may be friendly or not), make a good first impression, read the signs, get them interested, and all of that has to be accomplished in about 10-25 minutes of conversation. With practice, I think I can nail it. My chances are way better outside of high school, but it can be a lot harder playing a new ball game.

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/50 "2009-05-13T18:07:01Z")

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Day 26 - 5/13/09

Applied: 4 Sprays of CTTM2 on wrists and neck  
2 Sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) wrists  
1 Spray of AMMO wrist

Location: High School

Results: Nothing much different today. A little bit more talkative, noticed a few glances here and there (particularly from the girl I was going to ask to prom). Other than that, nothing interesting. I’m pretty much pumped for friday, so I can meet more people at the mall and try this out other than high school.

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**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/51 "2009-05-14T01:37:41Z")

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> [@LTDshred](#):
>
> Thanks that really helped out 🙂
> 
> Day 25 - 5/8/09
> 
> Applied: 1 Spray of AMMO to wrists  
> 2 Sprays of CTTM2 to wrists  
> 4 Sprays of Instant Shine to wrists and neck
> 
> Location: High School
> 
> Results: I had a pretty amazing day. In my language arts class, we were square dancing. I was looking around the room for a partner, since there were none, I thought I was going to sit out and watch. But all of the sudden my teacher (who is a fox btw, late 20’s) volunteers to be my partner. I was a little bit embarrassed, yet it was kind of a turn on. So we were doing several moves, and I could tell she was smelling the cologne. Not to menchen, she had really soft skin from touching hands, arms, or other body parts. She didn’t come out and say that “you smell good”, but definitely she was giving me long looks, talking, and laughing the whole time. Shame that she is married… oh well 🙄.

Hehe I KNEW IT. Ammo produces milf hits! I noticed this before with my teachers, but needed confirmation 😃

And no problem bro, see just make every day an amazing day and your life will become amazing 🆒 seize the day

> [@LTDshred](#):
>
> Day 26 - 5/13/09
> 
> Applied: 4 Sprays of CTTM2 on wrists and neck  
> 2 Sprays of Instant Shine wrists  
> 1 Spray of AMMO wrist
> 
> Location: High School
> 
> Results: Nothing much different today. A little bit more talkative, noticed a few glances here and there (particularly from the girl I was going to ask to prom). Other than that, nothing interesting. I’m pretty much pumped for friday, so I can meet more people at the mall and try this out other than high school.

Oh definitely get the mall game down, bro. Personally, I think it is a tool more useful than gaming at your own school! Why? Cause, the people at your school are gonna see you hangin with all these hot girls from other schools, and in time your schedule will fill up with parties, social gatherings and whatnot. Mall game is an essential part to a complete social life. Now, I’m a non-conformist at heart, but I love playing the social game lol. There’s a lotta fun to be had man

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**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/52 "2009-05-15T01:23:49Z")

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LOL don’t mean to jack the thread bro, but whoever -repped me for this (did nothing by the way)

> [@Young\_Beast](#):
>
> THat’s bullshit man stop thinking that way.
> 
> First of all, she is NEGGING you bro! To neg means to sort of tease/make fun of in a playful or sometimes slightly sexual way. Listen to me when I say that there _is_ attraction, you have to build on it. She sees you as a good, funny guy. Add in some cool and you’re golden.
> 
> Contrary to very popular belief, you don’t have to be Brad Pitt to get the hottest chick in the room.
> 
> Another trick to use for your confidence is to never ever do what you just did. Never say, “Oh I know she isn’t attracted to me.” Instead, think “She is definitely attracted to me.” Play the game bro, and it will reward you
> 
> BTW Check out my new journal 😛

with this "  
No offense bud, but your 16 what the hell do you know? Live life, STOP treating women like shit then come back 15 -20 years later & you might just get it"  
You have no idea what I meant. Really? What the hell do I know? Yeah, because generalizing an age group on their intellectual capacity is “smart”. Treating women like shit? Please, I love women and realize the world would be nothing without them. I do live life, and to the fullest thank you. For anyone else besides this creep, I’d like to clarify that by “game” I meant a game within his own self. A game in which he will come out a better person if he wins the struggle.

Get a fucking life and stop trying to cross-examine posts.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/53 "2009-05-15T15:26:34Z")

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> [@Young\_Beast](#):
>
> LOL don’t mean to jack the thread bro, but whoever -repped me for this (did nothing by the way)
> 
> with this "  
> No offense bud, but your 16 what the hell do you know? Live life, STOP treating women like shit then come back 15 -20 years later & you might just get it"  
> You have no idea what I meant. Really? What the hell do I know? Yeah, because generalizing an age group on their intellectual capacity is “smart”. Treating women like shit? Please, I love women and realize the world would be nothing without them. I do live life, and to the fullest thank you. For anyone else besides this creep, I’d like to clarify that by “game” I meant a game within his own self. A game in which he will come out a better person if he wins the struggle.
> 
> Get a fucking life and stop trying to cross-examine posts.

Seems like a semi-BS neg from someone who thought you were telling him to play the MM game (with negs and all that)

I thought your advice about what she was doing was pretty spot on - The “nerd boyfriend” comment was her negging in a playful/semi-sexual way

Yes… ladies “neg” as well… they just don’t need to be told to play that game because most women are significantly more socially aware than most guys (I think it’s an evolutionary thing).

Being called her nerd boyfriend is a good thing… it

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/54 "2009-05-17T21:21:33Z")

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> [@Wrlprchnx](#):
>
> Seems like a semi-BS neg from someone who thought you were telling him to play the MM game (with negs and all that)
> 
> I thought your advice about what she was doing was pretty spot on - The “nerd boyfriend” comment was her negging in a playful/semi-sexual way
> 
> Yes… ladies “neg” as well… they just don’t need to be told to play that game because most women are significantly more socially aware than most guys (I think it’s an evolutionary thing).
> 
> Being called her nerd boyfriend is a good thing… it

Well I guess since this confusion about the “nerd boyfriend” is out of the way, I’m going to post my report from Friday.

Day 27 - 5/15/09

Applied: 4 sprays of CTTM2  
3 Sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)  
2 Sprays of AMMO

Location: High School

Effects: Well, kind of hard to remember from Friday. I just remember it being a good day at school. We had a presentation and a random chick just sits beside me with her friend. Clearly this has got to be some sort of hit because there were plenty of seats in the auditorium to sit in. I didn’t really talk to her b/c one she has a boyfriend, and two I’m not interested in her, and three it was seniors last day. So I let this one go, which I know most of you will bag on me because I missed out on the whole “good time thing” and the hooking up with one of her single friends.

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/55 "2009-05-18T18:02:05Z")

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Day 28 - 5/18/09

Applied: 2 sprays of CTTM2 neck  
4 Sprays of Instant Shine wrists  
1 spray of ammo wrist

Location: High School

Results: Pretty crappy day I suppose. I know that a lot more people pay attention to me when I speak, not only just eye contact. Other than that, I got a stupid detention today for my cell phone playing my mp3s by accident.

No other notable results. When the current collection runs out, I think I’m going to get a bunch of Togo bottles such as Instant Jerk, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Openess, and honesty, etc. And maybe P79 if I get the chance.

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**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/56 "2009-05-18T20:32:58Z")

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> [@LTDshred](#):
>
> Well I guess since this confusion about the “nerd boyfriend” is out of the way, I’m going to post my report from Friday.
> 
> Day 27 - 5/15/09
> 
> Applied: 4 sprays of CTTM2  
> 3 Sprays of Instant Shine  
> 2 Sprays of AMMO
> 
> Location: High School
> 
> Effects: Well, kind of hard to remember from Friday. I just remember it being a good day at school. We had a presentation and a random chick just sits beside me with her friend. Clearly this has got to be some sort of hit because there were plenty of seats in the auditorium to sit in. I didn’t really talk to her b/c one she has a boyfriend, and two I’m not interested in her, and three it was seniors last day. So I let this one go, which I know most of you will bag on me because I missed out on the whole “good time thing” and the hooking up with one of her single friends.

Bro bro bro. No we will not bag on you. What I will tell you is that you can always talk to a girl with a BF. In fact, you _should_. You don’t gotta hook up with her, but guess what?

You can hook up with her friends. 😃

The more girls you talk to, the bigger your social circle will get. In fact, girls are the key to a circle in high school, you can’t get by talking to 5 girls and the rest guys.

You must become the one who’s name they yell in the hallway, and then seconds later another girl yells for you.

You know what I mean?

BTW, the above ideas would work great with just IO/IH, no Ammo really needed.

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**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/57 "2009-05-21T07:40:59Z")

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> [@Young\_Beast](#):
>
> Bro bro bro. No we will not bag on you. What I will tell you is that you can always talk to a girl with a BF. In fact, you _should_. You don’t gotta hook up with her, but guess what?
> 
> You can hook up with her friends. 😃
> 
> The more girls you talk to, the bigger your social circle will get. In fact, girls are the key to a circle in high school, you can’t get by talking to 5 girls and the rest guys.
> 
> You must become the one who’s name they yell in the hallway, and then seconds later another girl yells for you.
> 
> You know what I mean?
> 
> BTW, the above ideas would work great with just IO/IH, no Ammo really needed.

and talking with a girl with a bf is good social practice, there is less pressure b/c you know that she’s taken. It gives you the opportunity to get comfortable speaking to cute girls without being nervous about where it might lead

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/58 "2009-05-21T13:02:18Z")

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> [@chasm](#):
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> and talking with a girl with a bf is good social practice, there is less pressure b/c you know that she’s taken. It gives you the opportunity to get comfortable speaking to cute girls without being nervous about where it might lead

Yes! yes! yes!

That is one of the biggest problems most slightly nerdy guys have coming out of highschool - they aren’t comfortable talking to girls in GENERAL, nevermind when they are interested.

You know the way you feel when you are talking to a buddy… you aren’t scared and the shit just flows…

That is how you NEED to feel when you are talking to women

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**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/59 "2009-05-21T18:11:27Z")

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> [@Wrlprchnx](#):
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> Yes! yes! yes!
> 
> That is one of the biggest problems most slightly nerdy guys have coming out of highschool - they aren’t comfortable talking to girls in GENERAL, nevermind when they are interested.
> 
> You know the way you feel when you are talking to a buddy… you aren’t scared and the shit just flows…
> 
> That is how you NEED to feel when you are talking to women

Next time an opportunity comes around like that, I’m going to go for it. Yesterday’s report:

Day 29 - 5/20/09

Applied: 2 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)  
1 Spray of AMMO

Location: High School

Results: The usual effects. Most people pay attention to what I have to say when I talk, nothing much to it. However, there is a festival coming to town on Friday, which gives me a great opportunity to meet people and hook up with girls. 😃

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**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-n00b-journal/27312/60 "2009-05-24T05:34:55Z")

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CANNOT wait man to hear the report

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