# The Next Level **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [April 14, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694 "2014-04-14T14:44:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![parasiteOdin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@parasiteOdin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/parasiteOdin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694/1 "2014-04-14T14:44:44Z")
Hey everyone! I have been using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for a little over a year now and am just starting to really understand how to take advantage of them. I own a lot of Liquid Alchemy Labs products, they’re one of my favorite vendors. I also like PheromonesXS. Haven’t tried too many others, except a few from HAX/Wingman, True Pheromones, and New Pheromone Additive. Looking forward to reviewing your experiences and contributing to the community! ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694/2 "2014-04-14T15:37:37Z")
> [@parasiteOdin](#): > > Hey everyone! I have been using pheromones for a little over a year now and am just starting to really understand how to take advantage of them. I own a lot of Liquid Alchemy Labs products, they’re one of my favorite vendors. I also like PheromonesXS. Haven’t tried too many others, except a few from HAX/Wingman, True Pheromones, and New Pheromone Additive. > > Looking forward to reviewing your experiences and contributing to the community! Hello! Well, I’m familiar with the HAX, LAL, and LPMP websites and NPA. Not from personal use. Someone could offer you comment in the Men’s Section. This is more for getting acquainted and for qualifying for the GC. The four mentioned seem to be ethical companies with creative, original products. Not aware of any obvious negative feedback. TP strikes me as too much an attempt to mimic Androtics. Not cool to me. XS. No comment, except that as a free-thinking consumer, I never have or will conduct trade with them. Although I would provide feedback on _free_ samples, if asked. I should say, in fairness, many consumers do offer them favorable feedback, so I must be honest and objective there. None of the above vendors offer a totally free, 100% no money (ex. shipping) free product, IIRC. Tell us about your goals for pheros and personality, so you can get a G C. You can order any TOGO product from the Instant Line (except 314 A; that costs a buck or two more). The Instant’s **are** backed by warranty. The GC costs you _nothing_. Many guys try a dozen or 50 products, looking for perfection. Look for the one that fits you. Find a daily signature and make it **your** own. Sexualize it nights and weekends but be consistent. If a blockbuster hits the market, you’ll know. I call them “category killers.” 314 is in the status category. SmartMones doesn’t dabble much in -eNone and not at all in A1 or EST. That strikes 50-75% of all men’s formulas. A1, from my opinion, can cause depression in otherwise healthy men…even slightly the amounts in Dial. That said, NPA is a leader in its category. Just Androtics chose to not be in that category for business reasons. To each his own. I trust I answered many, albeit not all, of your queries. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![parasiteOdin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@parasiteOdin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/parasiteOdin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694/3 "2014-04-14T15:56:26Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > Hello! Well, I’m familiar with the HAX, LAL, and LPMP websites and NPA. Not from personal use. Someone could offer you comment in the Men’s Section. This is more for getting acquainted and for qualifying for the GC. The four mentioned seem to be ethical companies with creative, original products. Not aware of any obvious negative feedback. TP strikes me as too much an attempt to mimic Androtics. Not cool to me. XS. No comment, except that as a free-thinking consumer, I never have or will conduct trade with them. Although I would provide feedback on _free_ samples, if asked. I should say, in fairness, many consumers to offer them favorable feedback, so I must be honest and objective there. None of the above vendors offer a totally free, 100% no money (ex. shipping) free product, IIRC. Tell us about your goals for pheros and personality, so you can get a G C. You can order any TOGO product from the Instant Line (except 314 A, that costs a buck or two more). The Instant’s **are** backed by warranty. The GC costs you _nothing_. > > I trust I answered many, albeit not all, of your queries. 😃 Ahh I see. What does IIRC mean? Are you saying its possible for me to get free product to sample from Androtics?? Would love to hear more of your opinions on these vendors, PM me if you wish. My goals for pheromones are to open up my dating life. Like, they make me excited to go out because of what might happen. I love getting those amazing reactions from women. I am a single guy, Black (so I may be producing more pheromones/testosterone in general, I’ve heard), about 5’9" and overweight by about 30 or 40 lbs. I have a lot of charm and a great sense of humor but have made a lot of nice guy/beta moves. I have made a lot of progress in the last year or so but there’s a lot of work to be done. To state it simply, I would like pheromones to give me more blatant hits in terms of reaction. I want to see them working when we’re in conversation. I want them to open things up so that when I make the effort to initiate, I’m confident they have my back. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694/4 "2014-04-14T16:15:16Z")
If I Recall Correctly = IIRC. Think along the lines of AMMO + IG. Slightly sexual, slightly status and attractive. Manly. Not overbearing. The GC is $25 and nearly all TOGO’s are covered with that. Yes, you can get a free product. I prefer to recommend products that get results for most people. Rule of thumb: some products get hits for many people but they are not strongly sexual. The most sexual hits are also harder for the average guy to handle. Many of the very fine products of other sites I think are not newbie friendly. They make potent hits for advanced users who know how to handle them…and don’t want to make their own advanced formulas. Most advanced users here use a combination of intense (lots of mones) commercial products and their own custom formulas. Translation: AMMO is not as intense as other products, **by design**. Neither is Dial. Same reason. Also much harder to OD, therefore user friendly to the general public, some of whom spend only $100 yearly on mones, if that. I prefer to make my own (or learn to over time); much harder work and discipline, but I also don’t depend much on proprietary blends like NPA, esp. if they have A1 or high -eNone. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![parasiteOdin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@parasiteOdin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/parasiteOdin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694/5 "2014-04-14T16:45:55Z")
Wow. Thanks a lot man! There is so much information here, a lot more tailored and scientific than other phero forums. I’m excited to try Androtics products and it says a lot that they are willing to give a GC for people to get started! ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694/6 "2014-04-16T01:07:36Z")
\*\*Welcome to our community Odin! We’re super happy to have you join us. Thanks for stopping by and sharing. I hope to see more of you around here in the next few weeks! This is a quick note to let you know I’ve issued your gift certificate. It’s burning a hole in your email box as you read this! Have fun!" _~_~_~_~_~_\*\* ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-next-level/61694/7 "2014-04-16T18:34:01Z")
To my knowledge, nobody else offers a free product and many others have a minimum price point items around $50. That’s a lot for many people. I think every TOGO product except 314 A spray is covered for the GC. Everybody charges shipping of course. Androtics is very competitive, especially overseas. Very few sites sell **anything** for $20-25. There are exceptions, but even those aren’t totally free. People forget that. Glad you reminded me. 😃 > [@parasiteOdin](#): > > Wow. Thanks a lot man! There is so much information here, a lot more tailored and scientific than other phero forums. I’m excited to try Androtics products and it says a lot that they are willing to give a GC for people to get started!